The Grateful Dead's 10-CD $99.99 Winterland 1973 Complete Recordings Box Set

[Amerigo Vespucci]

Poll question: The Grateful Dead's 10-CD $99.99 Winterland 1973 Complete Recordings Box Set

The Shows

Winterland - November 9, 1973
Winterland - November 10, 1973
Winterland - November 11, 1973
Cincinnati Gardens - December 4, 1973

http://www.dead.net/features/release-info/wait-over-winterland-1973-box-has-arrived

Track Listing

Disc 1: 11/9/73
1. “Promised Land”
2. “Brown-Eyed Woman”
3. “Me & Bobby McGee”
4. “They Love Each Other”
5. “Black-Throated Wind”
6. “Don’t East Me In”
7. “Mexicali Blues”
8. “Row Jimmy”
9. “The Race Is On”
10. “China Cat Sunflower” >
11. “I Know You Rider”

Disc 2: 11/9/73
1. “Playing In The Band”
2. “Here Comes Sunshine”
3. “Me & My Uncle”
4. “To Lay Me Down”
5. “Big River”
6. “Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo”
7. “Greatest Story Ever Told” >
8. “Bertha”

Disc 3: 11/9/73
1. “Weather Report Suite”
a. Prelude
b. Part I
c. Part II (Let It Grow)
2. “Eyes Of The World” >
3. “China Doll”
4. “Around And Around” >
5. “Goin’ Down The Road Feeling Bad” >
6. “Johnny B. Goode”

Disc 4: 11/10/73
1. “Bertha”
2. “Jack Straw”
3. “Loser”
4. “Looks Like Rain”
5. “Deal”
6. “Mexicali Blues”
7. “Tennessee Jed”
8. “El Paso”
9. “Brokedown Palace”
10. “Beat It On Down The Line”
11. “Row Jimmy”

Disc 5: 11/10/73
1. “Weather Report Suite”
a. Prelude
b. Part I
c. Part II (Let It Grow)
2. “Playing In The Band” >
3. “Uncle John’s Band” >
4. “Morning Dew” >
5. “Uncle John’s Band” >
6. “Playing In The Band”

Disc 6: 11/10/73
1. “Big River”
2. “Stella Blue”
3. “Truckin’” >
4. “Wharf Rat” >
5. “Sugar Magnolia”
6. “One More Saturday Night”
7. “Casey Jones”

Disc 7: 11/11/73
1. “Promised Land” >
2. “Bertha” >
3. “Greatest Story Ever Told”
4. “Sugaree”
5. “Black-Throated Wind”
6. “To Lay Me Down”
7. “El Paso”
8. “Ramble On Rose”
9. “Me & Bobby McGee”

Disc 8: 11/11/73
1. “China Cat Sunflower” >
2. “I Know You Rider”
3. “Me & My Uncle”
4. “Loose Lucy”
5. “Weather Report Suite”
a. Prelude
b. Part I
c. Part II (Let It Grow)
6. “Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo”
7. “Big River”

Disc 9: 11/11/73
1. “Dark Star” >
2. “Eyes Of The World” >
3. “China Doll”
4. “Sugar Magnolia”
5. “Uncle John’s Band”
6. “Johnny B. Goode” >
7. “We Bid You Goodnight”

Bonus Disc: Cincinnati Gardens, 12/4/73 (for orders placed before April 30th)
1. “China Cat Sunflower”
2. “I Know You Rider”
3. “Truckin’”
4. “Stella Blue”
5. “Eyes Of The World”
6. “Space”
7. “Sugar Magnolia”
8. “Goin’ Down The Road Feeling Bad”
9. “Casey Jones”

http://www.deadnetstore.com/winterland-track-listing.aspx

[two gun sid]

1. Good stuff. Have you listened to any of the Dead...

concerts on Wolfgang's Vault?

Here's a link to one of the Fillmore East shows: http://concerts.wolfgangsvault.com/dt/grateful-dead-concert/50560-7413.html

[Amerigo Vespucci]

2. Yes, thank you, I'm pretty much addicted to Wolfgang's Vault...

...amazing stuff from a huge roster of solo performers and bands that matter.

:toast:

[two gun sid]

3. OK. I'm addicted too....

I actually look forward to their e-mails.

[leeroysphitz]

17. Good LORD! Thanks for that link. What a find. n/t

[two gun sid]

20. Hope you enjoy. It's a great site.

[Bennyboy]

4. I was there........

My memory reminds me tha the Saturday show was the one.

One thing I do remember about the Saturday show was this: A bunch of us loaded into a van owned by my friend John. He had this beautiful girlfriend, Soda, who was also my best friend. In fact I introduced them. We left from Sacramento, about 10 of us.

Soda was quite the bitch however and she just kept nagging John about everything. He kept ignoring her so she all of a sudden played her ace in the hole card: pretend to get sick. Finally John pulled over and told her to get out and puke behind this closed gas station. She went back there with John in tow, but after about one minute he ran back to the car, hopped in, and said let's go.

So we left here there. Most agreed with the decision as she was going to be a huge buzzkill all night.

everytime I go past the gas station I think of that incident.

The funny thing is she and John stayed together for a good long time after that. Till the night before the Reno show in 74. Where she literally walked off a mountain and we spent the entire night searching for her.


Strange chick that Soda. I have always wondered what happened to her.

[Bennyboy]

5. Also the first shows with the sound system.....

or at least most of what was to become the sound system.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

8. So I'm gonna assume you have Dick's Picks 24...

...and for those who don't, it was basically the "Sound System" CD, recorded at the Cow Palace in Daly City CA on 3/23/74. The CD booklet's got some jaw-dropping photos of "The Wall of Sound," with and without the band:



http://www.deadnetstore.com/Commerce/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductGuid=24c11d76-2eb3-45ea-9985-667b19d91e1b&CategoryGuid=a7b282e6-dfd4-42a2-b62b-d33057e65c42

U.S. Blues
Promised Land
Brown-Eyed Woman
Black-Throated Wind
Scarlet Begonias
Beat It On Down The Line
Deal
Cassidy
China Cat Sunflower
I Know You Rider
Weather Report Suite

Playing In The Band
Uncle John's Band
Morning Dew
Uncle John's Band
Playing In The Band
Big River
Bertha
Wharf Rat
Sugar Magnolia

:toast:

[Bennyboy]

13. I was there too.....

The sound test. the Playin>UJB>Dew>UJB>Playing is sickness. Actually went with both John and Soda for that one....But they had the sound system for a while before the "official" debut. There is a Maples Pavilions show druing that period that had the sound system too.

Why isn'tthe encores listed? JB Goode and Casey Jones. Me and my friend Larry left during the encore and hightailed it to Winterland and caught the last bit of Johnny Winter's set that night.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

6. As much as I respect Pigpen's contribution...

...and I understand exactly what Jerry said when he marked his passing with "We became a different band," my all-time favorite version of The Dead is the Keith & Donna years. Not so much Donna. I still have problems when she lets out the off-key banshee wail during "Playing In The Band." I had a hardcore Deadhead as a friend during those years...he explained it as some kind of Yin-Yang cosmic balance of having her female presence onstage with the guys in the band.

All I know is that she had difficulty in hitting the right notes, and I never "got" Donna.

I know why Weir wanted her in the band...so did Keith, and that ultimately was one of the things that led to the couple's dismissal.

But in terms of songwriting and live performances, my favorite era begins with the "Skullfuck" (a.k.a. Skull & Roses) album, wonderfully represented in alternate form on "Three From The Vault," through "Blues For Allah," once again represented in a killer form on the first "One From The Vault" release.

As I've said before, I own every commercial release as well as half of the Dick's Picks.

As a guitarist, I also put Jerry on the same stage with Hendrix, Clapton, Beck, Page...you name it. No one sounded like Jerry BEFORE Jerry, and no one sounds like Jerry AFTER Jerry.

When I think of the heart of Dead, I think of two songs immediately..."Bird Song" and "Stella Blue." The fact that Jerry managed those two songs is what keeps me grounded to the rest of the band's output. I like the early stuff and understand the fact that Arista wanted hit singles, hence the commercial attempts during the end of the Keith & Donna era and ALL of the Brent years.

:toast:

[bbernardini]

7. At this point, I feel the need to give a shout out to the late, great Vince Welnick.

Vinnie never got the respect he deserved from a lot of heads. I've been a long-time Tubes fan, so I was rather surprised to learn that he had joined the Grateful Dead. I've really enjoyed his work with the Dead, as well as his post-Dead output.

RIP, Vince.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

9. I saw Vince 3 times with The Tubes

He was supposedly hurt that he wasn't invited to join The Other Ones, Lesh & Friends, etc...

I don't know anything about his relationship with the band. I don't know why he wasn't included. Bob and Phil and Mickey know, I don't.

Same thing happened with Carl Radle from Derek & The Dominos and much of Clapton's post-heroin solo career. One day Eric stopped calling and Carl became despondent and ultimately took his own life. During an interview with the Rolling Stones the subject came up and Ronnie Wood said something like "nice going, Eric," and Jagger made the "SHHHHHHH" gesture and pointed to the tape recorder the interviewer was using. Too late, it made the final edit.

[Bennyboy]

14. Vince tried to off himself on the RatDog tour bus.....

Not long after Jerry died. Like Bob said "we are like a tribe and we cut out the weak so Vince was no longer with us after that'....

I saw Vince many times with the Tubes too. For a while they had me totally convinced.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

15. Wow...never heard that...

...but I've got to agree with Bob. A shame for Vince, but not the band's problem.

Same as Neil Young giving Danny Whitten bus fare back to L.A. after he refused to clean up. Danny scored, Danny died, and while Neil carried the weight of that for years, he didn't stick the needle in Danny's arm. Danny did.

:toast:

[harmonicon]

19. I've heard that it was Jerry who wanted him in the band

I don't know any of these people personally, so it's all hearsay.... it seems like their were different factions in the band, for sure. Lately I have no interest in Bob Weir songs at all, but they used to be my favourite. I think that is one thing I like about them - lots of strong musical personalities that are sometimes conflicting, but more often than not complimentary in stunning ways.

[harmonicon]

18. you have got to be kidding me

The Keith and Donna years? What I refer to as, "the unlistenable tapes"? Jesus christ.... she was so awful. Keith's playing was ok, but I think their best keyboardists were pigpen and Bruce Hornsby... I think Brent was a good player too, but he was a victim of the horrible synthesizer technology at the time that he was in the band - some really crappy sounds. I like that Bruce always plays a real piano - it makes a difference.

[yewberry]

10. Listening to 1/25/69 right now. St Stephen playing.

And lots of stuff from '73 at archive.org!

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=%28collection%3AGratefulDead%20OR%20mediatype%3AGratefulDead%29%20AND%20-mediatype%3Acollection%20AND%20year%3A1973&page=1

[NightWatcher]

11. I've already got more live shows than I can shake a grilled cheese at...thanks archives

[CabalPowered]

12. The 11/11 WRS is Epic

With a capital E.

[hippywife]

16. Live Dead? At Winterland? From back in the day?

Go for it! A little pricey but no doubt worth it. :hi: