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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:36 AM
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what local foodstuffs are adbundant within two days' walk from your residence?
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 07:50 AM by datasuspect
that is, locally grown foodstuffs or ones that occur naturally.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:48 AM
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1. Plenty of long pig.
Actually, there's lots of veggies, livestock, poultry, fish, small rodents and zillions of bugs.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 08:17 AM
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6. **snarf!**
Yeah, plenty of "long pig" here too.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:29 PM
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22. I'll bet my dogs would love the "Fat Republican" brand.
That's the one with the "Fat GuyTM laughing at starving people" on the label. I wouldn't eat it myself, since the jerky form of long pig makes me a little queasy.

I much prefer the Greenpeace brand of Soylent. I like to put some distance between me and the meat I eat. With the Greenpeace brand I am assured of the content -- there's nothing in there that offends my political sensibilities, and all the chemicals used in processing are "natural."

We've all heard those nasty rumors about the stuff they sell at Mal-Mart after they bought the Federal Prison system. I wouldn't buy a kidney from Mal-Mart either, even though they offer the least expensive hospital care in the USA.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:55 AM
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2. For starters, fiddle head ferns, wild mushrooms, maple syrup,
local honey, free range eggs, in the summer everything from apples to zucchini and many kinds of wild berries such strawberries, blueberries, etc. A friend keeps a herd of Devon cattle, so raw milk, home made yogurt, cheese (personal fave cheddar with sage), ice cream. Several sources of home made baked goods of all kinds. This within an hour's walk.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 08:00 AM
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3. Apples, corn, potatoes, acorns, berries, fiddleheads,
fish, fish, fish, fish and more stinkin' fish, beef, kale, lettuce, onions, garlic, fish, squash, shrimp, fish, sunflowers, chicken, eggs, milk, leeks, fish, mint and oregano, tomatoes, more squash, fish and fish.

Did I mention we have fish?
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 08:12 AM
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4. Corn, soybeans, beef
And plenty of tomatoes.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 08:16 AM
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5. asphalt
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 08:21 AM
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7. We're in a fairly rural area
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 08:36 AM by DarkTirade
I'm not sure what gets grown around here, but I'm sure there's some cornfields and apple orchards, and maybe even a few wineries. And as far as livestock goes I've seen cows and horses. And while I'd rather not eat the horses, come the apocalypse, the horses will enable one to travel farther in search of food than they would be able to on foot. :)

Oh, and there are tons of deer around here.

Probably literally.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 08:25 AM
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8. Apples, corn, venison, wild turkey, grouse, duck, goose,
tomatoes, zucchini, mushrooms, watermelon, pumpkin, walnuts, pawpaw fruit, wild cherries, chestnuts, honey, wild onions, "ramps" (it's an Appalachia thing). In the river, there's catfish (flatheads and channels--not sure if we have blues up here or not), assorted species of trout, largemouth and smallmouth bass, drum, carp (although I'd have to be starving before I'd eat the carp--they taste like mud), small perch (like sunfish), and a few small river mussels and crayfish. There's probably more, like locally-gathered eggs, milk, etc., but that's just the "go out and pick/kill/catch it" stuff. Of course, since practically all the land (save for national and state parks) is "owned" by someone, you'd likely get in trouble for trying, lol.
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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 08:53 AM
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9. I guess you *could* eat snow.
:crazy:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 09:11 AM
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12. Be real, there is not snow there in July!
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Rhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:13 PM
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38. or the frozen moose-sicles that are stuck in it!
:hide:
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 09:07 AM
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10. Just about anything you could name.
John's Island is farming territory. You could walk there (it might take -me- more than 2 days) in about 5 hours from here. CSA farms, u-pick, commercial farms. Biggest farmer's market in the area. We're going today. I expect to score a bushel or 2 of sweet peas, early beans, strawberries and whatever else is cool weather crops.

Most of the farms grow organically but can't be certified because of the close proximity of farms that don't grow that way. Too much blows over. But at least they try and it's a whole lot less pesticides and chemical fertilizers.

Going to fill the freezers this year, buying what we don't have room enough to grow for ourselves.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 09:09 AM
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11. Strawberries, Citrus, Avocadoes, Fish
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:32 AM
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13. grapes, wine, grapes, wine, pears, walnuts...
Yes, we are in The Wine Country...well, the northern end.

grapes
pears
walnuts
beef
sheep
goats
strawberries
misc. field vegies
wild turkey
bison (yup, there is a bison ranch)
acorns
misc. native foodstuffs (difficult to process, but edible)
and if you count it... pot (part of Emerald Triangle)

and the backyard garden (apples, peaches, plums, vegetables)
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:35 AM
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14. Yeah, about a zillion tons of wine grapes
Napa/Sonoma Counties, north of San Francisco
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:26 PM
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32. You could coax visitors in with the wine...
... and when they were good and drunk, have them for dinner.

:yoiks:
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:38 PM
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40. Sound thought...
but I'm a Vegetarian.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 05:42 PM
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41. one county farther north
Lake Co. - but we can drop boulders at the passes, and 'taint nobody gonna' get through, on wheels, anyway...

would you like wine with that?
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:05 AM
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15. Salmon, Dungeness Crab, Oysters, Penn Cove Muscles,
Lake Trout and an assortment of seaweeds, -if you swing that way, deer and elk, rabbit, possum, squirrel, geese and duck, fish roe and eggs from poultry. Blackberries, Logan berries, elder berries, service berries, salmon berries, strawberries, Oregon grape the acorn of the white oak, hazelnuts, matsutake, wood ear mushroom, morels, white truffles, huckleberries, sorrel and salal.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:47 AM
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16. What would you like? --
I am blessed with a large variety of locally grown produce and all kinds free range animals for protein. :)

I think I can even get fresh seafood in a two days walk.......although, I would probably be too tired to eat when I got there ;) :D
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:08 PM
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17. Quite a lot, actually
I'm pretty sure I could walk to Oxnard-ish in about 2 days. Oxnard is the beginning of farm country here in southern CA. Or, I could head for the beach and get some fish...I guess.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:10 PM
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18. Snow - Ice
:evilgrin:
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:19 PM
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19. well there used to be a corn field across the street...
and soybean farms right up the road, but now they are all gone so that they could build 55+ housing. But being in the Garden State (and no it's not an ironic title), you can pretty much find any produce nearby.

A cursory browse of farms in the county will yield...Apples, cherries, nectarines, peaches, beans, peas, squash, sweet corn, tomatoes, strawberries, raspberries, blackberries, blueberries, eggplant, peppers, broccoli, pumpkins, cucumbers, cabbage, watermelon...etc

and the corn, tomatoes and strawberries are especially delicious
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:13 PM
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20. Planning for the apocalypse early?
We've got lots of stuff nearby -

goats, sheep, pigs, cows, chickens, geese, fish, turtles
corn, potatoes, squash, peppers, apples, pears, lettuce, cucumbers, carrots, etc., etc., etc. for veggies
milk, cheese, ice cream all made locally

We're really lucky to live in a place where we can get a lot of local food :)
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:23 PM
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21. This post reminds me of a moment from my childhood
I was in third grade, and we were having a class Thanksgiving party where each of us had to bring one food item in for the class. I was assigned to bring in corn.

Well, I guess despite knowing about the assignment several days in advance, I didn't bring it up to my parents until the evening before the meal. So I tell my dad, and he says "All right, let's go to the store and buy your corn." So we go out and I naturally walk out towards the car. But my dad keeps on walking up the driveway and towards the road by our house. So I ask him where he's going. "We're going to buy your corn of course". So I ask him why we aren't driving. And he tells me he thinks its better for us to walk.

Now mind you, the nearest grocery store to our house was a good 3 miles away, at least. It was already 7:00 pm. So you could imagine how much whining and moaning I did while we were walking towards the store (with my dad attempting to slyly teach me a lesson on waiting until the last moment to bring up assignments, I guess.) I think about a mile to a mile and a half I finally stopped complaining and grudingly accepted that we would be doing a six mile roundtrip hike to the store and back to buy a can of corn. And about that time, my mom (having a little better sense) came to the rescue, driving by in the family car and picking us up to take us the rest of the way to the store.

Still, I made it an effort to tell my parents earlier about all assignments from that day on.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:30 PM
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23. tomatoes, potatoes, onions, green beans
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 01:32 PM by GTRMAN
and squash soon, if the frost doesn't get them first.

Squirrels, rabbits, Deer and plenty of "slow elk" around :evilgrin:
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:35 PM
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24. Within an hour's walk:
Corn, beans, tomatoes, squash, eggplant, melons, various salad greens, blueberries, mushrooms, cabbage, eggplant, beets - I live a mile away from a PSA organic farm. And the ducks and geese are a public nuisance in the local ponds. Within a day: citrus, chickens, dairy cattle.

Right now the loquats are fruiting like crazy - they grow wild here. I frequently see Asian people picking bags of them to take home: they must be part of of the regular cuisine from Asia, though I find them a tad bland for my taste. With the natural abundance we've got, I should probably check out some recipes though. Does anyone have any?

Wait. Here's one. Google rules.

LOQUAT CHUTNEY

1 1/2 pounds loquats* -- seeded
1 pound onion -- chopped
1/2 pound grated apple
1 pound sugar
2 teaspoons mustard
2 teaspoons salt
1 teaspoon curry powder
1 tablespoon molasses
1/4 teaspoon ginger
1 pint vinegar
2 cups water
1/4 cup raisins


Wash, stone and cut up loquats into small pieces.

Prepare apples and onions.

Put all ingredients in a pot and boil gently until soft and a good colour.

Pour into hot jars and seal.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:38 PM
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25. Everything.
And we weren't kind to refugees from the Great Depression either.

We called the "Okies."



http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/fsahtml/fachap03.html



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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:39 PM
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26. Smoked Brisket
That occurs naturally here, I think.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:40 PM
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27. cows, pigs, chickens, fish, deer, wild turkey, pheasant
various fruits and vegetables. Over the last few years we lost the ostrich and turkey farms.

and if we got desperate, there's always opossum, rabbit, squirrel and I have the cookbook with the recipes.

ugh..just looked at the cookbook, (this is Joy of Cooking?) more recipes for porcupine, raccoon, muskrat, woodchuck, beaver, armadillo, moose, bear, wild boar and what the hell is a peccary? I've only seen the raccoons, muskrat and woodchuck around here..those are in abundance.

well..that ruined my appetite.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:00 PM
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28. peccary is javelina
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 02:09 PM by pitohui
i thought armadillo was infected with leprosy, it used to be the research animal for leprosy

everyone knows what armadillo looks like but here is javelina

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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:21 PM
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31. I'd never heard of eating armadillo until
I opened the cookbook to the wild game section. This is an old cookbook, reprint shows 1978, originally printed sometime in the 30's. I doubt they changed it much during that time.


I had to google about the leprosy..never knew that. Here they thought they'd be the perfect creature to do research with and ended up finding out that some of the animals already had it. Amazing..
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sazemisery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:02 PM
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29. I've got everyone beat on this question.
I live in a rural area so to begin I will start on my own property. I will assume datasuspect means year-round.

I own 5 acres with a pond that is full of large mouth bass and 3 kinds of perch. In the growing season, I can pick from my garden of asparagus, tomatoes, peppers, lettuce, okra, summer and winter squash varieties, strawberries, potatoes, edamame, beans of several varieties and herbs such as basil, parsley, dill, thyme, oregano and fennel.

If I go to the end of my dead end road, my farmer neighbor and his wife provide me with chicken eggs and goat milk. We also exchange vegetables if we grow different things from each other.

In my town there is a farmers market each summer that sells vegetables and fruits that I don't grow such as peaches, pears, plums, grapes, kale, collard greens, onions, etc.

On the third Thursday of every month my statewide food coop delivers the things I order such as natural or organic beef, chicken, pork, lamb, honey, bread, jellies and jams, whole wheat flour(hard red or soft white wheat), butter, yogurt, cheeses of many kinds, mushrooms and a myriad of other things too numerous to mention. Check it out at http://www.oklahomafood.coop

I have learned to cure and smoke my own bacon, make pancetta and sausages, cheese (I didn't mention the dairy that is 30 miles away where I buy raw milk) and other things that the grocery store has but I can make better and without all the extra unpronounceable ingredients.

I don't mean to sound bragadocious. I learned from a biology teacher in high school (early '70's) that the time would come when we would have to depend on ourselves and our neighbors for our food needs. So I have been trying to make myself and my family self-sustainable for 30 plus years.

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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:07 PM
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30. that's a lot of time lost from your life -- 30 years
i remember hearing the same scare stories and more, after all, global thermonuclear war was only 15 minutes away in those days when we didn't know that the russians never had a delivery system

that's most of a productive adult lifetime spent hiding in the country, living in fear, developing a subsistence lifestyle, instead of taking advantage of what the world has to offer

to me that's very sad that a person has so little trust of the world and the future that they don't believe in human interdependance

not something to brag about, but almost something to weep about

what do you do when the world DOESN'T end and you realize you've given your whole life to this?

my dad joined the army and got shot at by bad guys to make sure i wasn't trapped for my whole life down on the farm, i have to respect that

just another point of view

nothing wrong with knowing a little of how to garden, how to care for lifestock, etc. but when it comes to giving up one's whole life...what's the point? i'm not just a tube that exists to eat and i'm not going to spend my whole life living in fear that there won't be any incoming for the mouth -- we have minds, there has to be more to life than just fear of going hungry

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sazemisery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 01:39 PM
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42. Excuse me? I'm not hiding in fear...
Just 'cause I live in a rural area doesn't mean I am an isolationist, survivalist or any other type of idiot that lives in fear of anything.

My lifestyle is far from what you visualize it to be. In addition to all the things I posted in my reply I also run a business managing approximately 40 bailbond agents(Oklahoma and Kansas) for an insurance company. I also gave birth to and reared two wonderful sons during the those 30 years. I didn't see the need for a college degree since I had already established my career by the time I was 22. As a hobby, Mr. sazemisery and I had walking horses and bird dogs and competed in cross country field trials.

I never said I lived the entire 30 years without leaving this RED ass state, either. I have been to Europe, Central America, Mexico, and Canada. I plan on seeing as much of the continental US as possible in the years to come.

So, next time you read someone's post, don't ASSUME anything.



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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:30 PM
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34. I'm curious about the edamame
I've seen it in the stores and it seems so expensive. I've been wondering if it's something I could grow a small patch of, but have no idea how to go about it. Do you have any advice on how I could do it..if I could do it?

I'm in a rural area too and I've always wondered why we have no farmers market in any of the small towns nearby. We'd have to travel 15-30 miles to get to one.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:27 PM
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33. Crabs
who needs anything else?



and other foodstuff:

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:31 PM
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35. Acorns and fish
:9
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:33 PM
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36. Jack Daniels whiskey but George Dickel is only two hours by foot. n/t
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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:37 PM
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37. 2 days walk?
Just about everything that'll grow in western pennsylvania. Pittsburgh is a funny town, you're never very far from farmland (including organic farms and livestock operations) and wild land.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 03:46 PM
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39. to eat or to smoke?
:dilemma:
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