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DaydreaminHippie68 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:32 AM
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I need help with my choice for school!!!!!
Ok so I'm about to enter college and I know I'll probally change my major a few times but my question is, What can I do with a poltical science degree besides running for office or teaching?
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:35 AM
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1. Drive a taxi!
I know, I'm being snarky but in this town(Austin) there's lots of cab drivers with an assortment of Masters degrees.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:36 AM
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2. Not to mention bookkeeper!
Me being one of those Austinites with a masters degree. :)
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DaydreaminHippie68 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:38 AM
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3. Haha
When i was younger I wanted to be a taxi driver and a garbage man. :)
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:41 AM
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4. military. nt.
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DaydreaminHippie68 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:45 AM
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5. What does NT stand for?
I'm on pain meds right now so bear with me, I can't comprehend hardly anything right now hehe
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:47 AM
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6. no text....it just means the message part is blank. nt.
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DaydreaminHippie68 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:57 AM
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7. gotchya
thanks
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:58 AM
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8. Do what you like. This graduating class of high school seniors is the
largest ever in the history of this country. Hence, the competition for jobs and colleges will be/ is fierce.

Do what you enjoy and you will find a job that suits you.

Where are you thinking about going?
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DaydreaminHippie68 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:01 PM
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9. I'm going to
community College for a few yars and then transfering to I was thinking Oakland but now I think I might want to go to Wayne with WannabeGrumpy
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:03 PM
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10. Your undergraduate major, first and foremost, should be something you're interested in studying.
There are vocational degrees like computer science and then there are the degrees with softer vocational links but strong skill building (most of the social sciences and language/lit degrees.) Too many people lock into a major based on dollar signs and later discover that they hate working in field. It's better to have a degree that will help you demonstrate that you can tackle complex mathematical or scientific problems or one that requires strong writing skills. Better still is a discipline requiring both.

Some political scientists with grad degrees work in public policy research firms.
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DaydreaminHippie68 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:05 PM
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11. I was also thinking Hisotry also
because I'm a JFK conspiracy Theorist and I probally won't gte much money but the money doesn't matter to me.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:26 PM
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14. That's my degree!
Well, medieval history, not American.

I went into a history degree passionately believing JFK was killed by a conspiracy. By the time I left, I believed completely the opposite. Not because my profs even talked about it (though I can't think of a single one who believed any of the CTs--not that most talked it), but because my work with evidence made me investigate the details more trying to prove it, and that made me change my conclusions. Not saying you will, but your comment brought back memories. :)
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:08 PM
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12. I have an Uncle who is a political scientist...
If not teaching you can work at a think tank or even in a lobbying firm (not all lobbying firms are teh evul..I have a relative who is a lobbyist and she's a good person) but as someone said above public policy research.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:11 PM
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13. There are plenty of opportunities. It sort of depends on you. And luck.
There are the jobs directly related to political science, like political advising, lobbying, NGO think tanks, and various government jobs at various levels--cities, state and local governments are always constructing departments to analyze voting districts, or demographic patterns, or to construct government agencies, or deal with other government agencies. Government agencies especially like those types of degrees. Then there are political party type jobs, like running a state or local party office. Many corporations also have government liason and PR departments that need an understanding of political science. The demand isn't through the roof, and you may have to relocate and/or take jobs with limited longevity, but they are out there. I have a few friends who are political advisers, strategists, and campaign managers, and they are usually very busy for periods of time, and very bored at other times, and their income is uncertain until they reach a high enough level. Obviously if you become James Carville or David Axelrod your income goes way up.

Then there are jobs that are sort of related, like diplomatic services, many government jobs that have to do with government but aren't directly about government. Again, depends on where you are willing to live, and sometimes just the luck of the draw on who is hiring when you are working.

Then there are the fun jobs that PS can be used as a jumping off point for. Writing, for instance, where a degree in PS can train you on research and give you a little cred when trying to publish your first works. Obviously that's a job that requires skills of their own, and not just writing. There's a lot of salesmanship and a certain type of character that goes into being a professional writer, especially in a political field. You have to be dogged and determined, you have to be sharp on your feet when interviewing, you have to be able to stand up to an interviewee, and stuff like that.

Of course, PS is a good jumping off point for law or an MBA, too. Or more arcane fields like history, if you specialize enough as an undergrad to get the required courses for entrance.

Then there are the general fields where a degree is helpful or important even if it doesn't relate to the business. Sales is the perfect example--maybe even sales involving government. A company hiring an entry-level computer salesperson targeting government agencies might find the degree relevant. But many companies hire graduates of all types for a variety of jobs, ranging from human resources (I don't know anyone in human resources with a degree in HR) to customer service to account executives of all types. PS is a good degree for a management track professional.

I'll give you the basic advice I've been trying to give my daughter. Chase what you want to do, and don't worry about the money. (Interestingly enough, the creators of Monster.com say much the same thing, as do a number of career advisers). Whatever you choose, you will need more training to advance, anyway, so don't worry about trying to become a perfect finished product all at once. PS is a good degree for a number of fields. If you want to get into politics, pursue it with everything you have. If you fail, so what? You tried, and if you don't try you won't wind up doing it, either--at least give yourself the chance. There is always time to find a new career path, and a degree like PS is a good starting point for a lot of them. I know a guy who went to law school at 50 after selling auto parts his whole life. I knew a man in grad school for history who had done construction work until his 40s. Whatever major you choose, that won't be the final word on what you do. Follow your own goals, and you may just love what you do. And if you don't, at least you won't feel like you never got the chance.

And don't write off money as a goal--nothing wrong with getting rich if you do it with integrity. But don't make it the goal. Most people spend a lifetime trying to get money to buy things to make them forget that they aren't happy doing what they are doing for a living. Skip that step, and you might find you are so busy doing what you love that you don't have time to miss all the things you can't buy. Even better, you might find that you have as much money as you want because you are doing what you always wanted, and doing it well.

Just my thoughts. As I've mentioned, I'm a bookkeeper. I'm writing this while avoiding doing work I hate. :) So don't take it too seriously. But I took my shots at what I wanted, and didn't so much fail as decided I had other goals I thought were more important (kids do that to you). And I ain't dead yet, and I'm still working on some things. People are wrong--a master's degree in medieval history CAN keep you warm at night. What leaves you cold is feeling like you let everyone else decide your life for you. Do what you love, and define success the way you see it. Most of the people telling you otherwise are miserable about their own choices, anyway.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:29 PM
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15. You can be an educated person
Please look at going to college as part of the process of becoming an educated person. If you want to get an education in order to have gainful employment, study to be a plumber.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:57 PM
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16. law school or other grad school? Legislative aide? Campaign worker?
maybe try some classes in your preferred area and see if you like them.

Many times college students start out with one idea, and then decide that they area they chose isn't what they want to do.


Goof luck and congratulations!
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:01 PM
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17. Luke's brother and his wife are both Political Science majors...
from U of M.

The both worked for consulting firms in the D.C. area
for about 10 years, then moved back here.

Luke's brother now works as the head of the EPA in Ann Arbor,
and his wife is a soon-to-be full Professor at U of M.

(Of course, the show-offs are DOUBLE-MAJORS.....)

The have a VERY nice lifestyle in Ann Arbor.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:43 PM
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18. A great many things, with a catch. (I have a Poli. Sci. BA)
That catch being that the degree itself is completely useless in many careers without some sort of backing experience in that field to match it. Most of my classmates are now real estate agents, cops, insurance salesmen, businessmen, retail and restaurant managers, and bartenders because they had nothing to pair with the degree. Good jobs, but not jobs requiring a degree for the most part.

The actual study of the operations of the political system is brief unless you specialize in that area, as most of what even the average political scientist needs to know about it was covered in HS social studies/civics classes. It's largely a degree in how to approach and analyze complex issues. As such, it lays a fantastic base for any number of fields from business to law to diplomacy and international relations and a hundred other fields. The kid who sat next to me freshman year in my intro class works for the Smithsonian now, negotiating cultural-rights issues pertaining to archaeological artifacts with foreign governments. My best-friend is an Asst. DA of Philadelphia. I personally chose a career in the non-profit sector.

Against the advice of my advisor who kept telling me that if I wanted to work in NPOs that I was going to need to volunteer or take an internship, I chose to do neither and spent the first three years after I graduated as the copy-monkey/coffee-fetcher/proofreader/grunt-worker/receptionist learning the "business" of running an NPO; It was frustrating because I was working for classmates who I knew were less-intelligent and less-skilled than me but who had connections and experience and thus were hired to perform work they had already shown an aptitude for. Eventually, I left because it wasn't the right field (or major) for me...I chose it because I was good at it, not because I ever enjoyed it.

The key questions are: "What do you think you want to do? and "How will understanding how people think (or don't think) when approaching political and ethical questions help you in that field?"
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:19 PM
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19. I have a Poli Sci degree.
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 06:22 PM by GOPisEvil
I worked in state government for 13 years and now I work for a large insurance company.

It's a good degree, if you aren't into getting totally wealthy. :D

Actually, I have a Poli Sci major and a History minor. I'm great at Jeopardy and Trivial Pursuit. ;)
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DaydreaminHippie68 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:26 PM
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20. I was thinking
about having those exact subjects as my minor and majors but the oppesette. I'm very interested in PS (sadly some people my age don't and don't vote which is a shame) I'm also amazing at History (not to sound egotistacal). It's also very sad that people don't know when the constitution was written and things that they should know but don't.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:41 PM
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21. I have a poli sci degree
.. and , please, for the love of God, major in Accounting, or Business, or something useful. ;-)

When I went to school, in the 80s, Poli Sci was commonly used as a stepping stone to law school.

There are a lot of jobs in the private sector where they are really just looking for someone with half a brain who has management potential. Many jobs of this sort are found in retail, insurance, banking, and hospitality with these kinds of jobs. Starting pay generally sucks, but with hard work and a little butt kissing, you rise quickly. Sales jobs (insurance, stocks, technical b2b sales) also have lots of openings for liberal arts majors; these employers need people who can explain complex concepts to lay people and then talk them out of their money. If you can talk a lot of people out of their money, you will quickly find your self in a Lexus, with a beautiful spouse, and a 5 bedroom home, and wondering what the Hell you're doing hanging around these losers here in DU!

If you were to actually use the major, the three avenues you typically pursue are a) quantitative analysis (where you conduct polls and analyze statistics for Gallup, Zogby, et. al), b) politics (where you get yourself elected, or, more likely, get a job as a congressional aide at the state or federal level) or c) activism (where you organize voters or lobby officials for a cause, organization or industry -- not that many, many lobbyists are lawyers). Also, there is writing about politics.
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:44 PM
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22. I minored in Poli Sci
majored in Psychology. Then went to law school. As others have noted upthread, Poli Sci is a really common undergrad degree for the law school bound.
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