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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:23 PM
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Why do women like men who have a bit of the *bad boy* in them?
Just one of my musings.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:24 PM
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1. Cause we are more fun?
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 06:24 PM by jasonc
I guess...

maybe rebelling against their parents? religion?

I don't know, I am making this shit up.
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:27 PM
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6. why do i think you're NOT making this shit up??
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raptor_rider Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:47 PM
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24. My honey is with his
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 08:48 PM by raptor_rider
parents in religion. We just "think" differently. "New Thought" is what we look into and study "A Course in Miracles."

On Edit: Had to add a word.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:12 PM
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31. ???
What did you say?
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nomorenomore08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:25 PM
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2. I think they're trained that way by society, to a certain extent.
But I'm a guy, and a quiet, introverted non-bad-boy at that, so what do I know?
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:25 PM
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3. AAARRRGGGHGH
Not this again.

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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:29 PM
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8. This issue has been . . .
(ahem) raised before? and i missed it?
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RadiationTherapy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:45 PM
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39. Unbelievable, right?
You: talk to female friends and get them to give you and honest opinioin of you.

Me: "Bad boys" are interesting (excluding abusers, of course) and "nice guys" are boring.

Let's see...others will say...

- You (the OP) aren't seeeing women who aren't up to your super model standards

- Those women are immature girls; find a mature woman.

- "Bad boys" are more assertive.

Anything else?
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:30 PM
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43. Yup, you've got it covered
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 10:35 PM by Lydia Leftcoast
For further information, check out this URL:

http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/ng.shtml

I'm bookmarking it for the next time this topic comes up. Which will probably be next week. :eyes:
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:25 PM
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4. I dunno, I don't
All the guys I have ever liked had crushes on have been big time sweethearts...However, its important that a guy stand up for himself..Someone who can be strong when necessary but yet gentle is a HUGE turn on in my book.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:26 PM
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5. Better sex.
People who are cautious and a bit boring don't magically become adventurous and exciting when their underpants hit the floor.
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:28 PM
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7. I like that answer.
ding ding ding ding
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:51 PM
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40. ???
We're supposed to take 'em all the way off? :shrug:



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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:00 AM
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44. har har har !!
upon reflection - just HOW have you been doing it, pray tell?

or do we really wanna know?


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:11 AM
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48. I was taught to always use protection
And I don't wanna skin my knees, so...



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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:59 AM
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62. some do!
:)
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:52 AM
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67. Sorry, not true for me
I'm a quiet, cautious, gentle soul, and the bedroom is where my wild side comes to life, but you'd never know it from my shy, nice guy demeanor in my daily life.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:31 PM
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9. It's the passion
the sex really most likely. they have that edge that some women love. Yeah it's the sex I think. :shrug:
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:52 PM
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12. Hmm.
I don't think you have to be a bad boy to be passionate...I can't say more, but I have good reason to say this is so....
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:57 PM
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15. True, my husband is a "good boy"
I have to guess though as I've never been attracted to the bad boys. I think all men have a little bad boy in them. Again just guessing. :hi:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:33 PM
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10. Well, I'm a good boy. That means,
I need viagra.
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:40 PM
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36. Hey Hypno . . .
YOU- a *GOOD* boy?????



:spray: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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BeachBaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:35 PM
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11. Bad boys are non-conformists.
Non-conformity is quite the turn-on, in and if itself.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:54 PM
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13. Because they're a little more dangerous...
And that can be soooooooo much fun...:evilgrin:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:56 PM
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14. It is not for me to question good fortune
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:00 PM
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16. Excitement
a little danger

and

I dunno

why?

:rofl:

:hi:
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:41 PM
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37. I think you (pardon the pun) nailed it . . .
:evilgrin:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:16 PM
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17. Because we want to fix the bad boy with the broken heart of gold?
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:42 PM
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38. Could be part of it . . .
but I think we would like some of the *bad* to stay with him.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:56 PM
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41. I like a guy to look bad but be a total puppy on the inside *g* Like Han Solo. Kinda baddish but
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 09:57 PM by GreenPartyVoter
also looks so darned lost. LOL
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:19 PM
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18. Energy, daring, and enthusiasm are very attractive.,.,.
True "bad boys" are usually a one way ticket to heartache, and long term keep only women with no self-respect.
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:38 PM
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34. Really?
You truly think that women without self-respect seek out the *good* boys?

My late hubby was one of the *good guys* and I would like to think that I have a modicum of self-respect myself.
I do have a penchant for the *bad* side, however. I think it's the thrill for me - I get tired of the mundane.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:59 PM
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19. I think part of it is all the things that have been mentioned...
but for the most part, I think it's just that they stand out enough to be noticed more. More people will likely be interested in you if more people notice you in the first place. :P
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:09 PM
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20. I have absolutely no freaking idea...
:shrug:

RL
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:15 PM
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22. ...
:spray:
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:13 PM
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21. Who wants to be married to a saint?
:shrug:

Nice guy, yes, Perfect guy, no.
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raptor_rider Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:45 PM
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23. My husband was a bad boy in his
teens. I met him on line when he was 29 and I 27. All of his bad boy years were out of him by then. Granted he is still a little boy by nature, had to have his "toys." Been together almost 5 years, and married almost 4 years. Got married within 10 months of meeting. Not "All Boy's" are bad. They may just start bad, however end up being the man of your dreams.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:52 PM
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25. Not sure, but before I was divorced
I was always the one that women said, "you're a nice guy, but..." to all the time.

However, after I got divorced, I had so many dates over the next two years or so that it almost made up for the previous 12-15 years of women saying I was a nice guy, but...

But, I don't think going from a SWM to a DWM was the entire story. I think my personality changed a bit, too. I was dating so often that if one date didn't work out, I probably had several more lined up over the next few days and didn't really have time to get upset over it.





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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:36 PM
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33. Interesting . . .
Sooo -

do you now consider yourself a *half* bad-ass now?

Or just a nice guy who is divorced?

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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:44 AM
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57. Not sure
but, I think I loosened up a bit, but I think also women saw that I was now a DWM instead of a SWM and realized I wasn't this pure angel of a guy.

a little bit more info here from another thread last night:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=7696675&mesg_id=7697687

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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:56 PM
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26. It's completely biological.
When we are young (and fertile), we want an alpha male - a male that will protect us and our progeny and make good strong babies.

I had one and it didn't work out so well, other than I got some gorgeous kids.

Now I am with a much nicer man. I don't need all that other stuff anymore.
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nomorenomore08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:58 PM
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27. I dunno... I tend to think that purely biological explanations are too facile.
You have to take cultural factors into account as well, or your analysis is incomplete.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:10 PM
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30. I think you underestimate evolutionary drive.
Cultural factors came into play once I no longer could get pregnant.

I am a nice, smart, reasonable person raised in a completely non-abusive, tolerant household. I married and had children with a "bad boy" whose real badness I completely denied.

In retrospect, I think it was a purely biological choice.

But that's just me.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:06 PM
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28. Because they appeal to the bad girl in me
:evilgrin:
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:40 PM
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35. Word
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:07 PM
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29. 'cause they're hot
:evilgrin: :rofl:
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Lethe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:24 AM
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47. wow
this from the girl who constantly posts shit about teenage boys and how they are so stupid
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:46 AM
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59. wow. i guess i forgot to add the sarcasm smiliey
then again.. i thought with such an answer it would be completely obvious that i was joking.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:16 PM
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32. 'cause we're HAIRY?!1 n/t
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:19 PM
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42. They get better drugs and have better taste in music. n/t
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:22 AM
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65. Ha!
You just described my entire adolescence and 20's.
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:05 AM
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45. Because some must love being treated like crap.
A lot (not all) bad boys treat women like shit. Those women must like it if they keep going out with that sort.

:shrug:
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nomorenomore08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:00 AM
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52. And likewise, there are men who like women who treat them like crap.
Neither sadism nor masochism is unique to either gender, in spite of the well-worn "male sadist/female masochist" stereotype.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:10 AM
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46. why did half of America get wet for GW Bush?
stupidity is rampant in both genders.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:15 AM
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49. What's the saying?
Girls prefer assholes, women prefer men.

Neither group seems too interested in crazy guys like me, though. ;)
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:55 AM
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60. i don't know about that . . .
how crazy ARE you??
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:26 AM
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50. Confidence is an attractive quality
The bad boy/girl has that in spades.
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The Inquisitive Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:02 AM
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51. Woman looking for assertive and confident men.
Assholes tend to be extremely assertive, and usually way more confident than their achievements and personalities warrant.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:53 AM
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53. Because danger is exciting.
If you're a little dangerous, it's a turn on. No one gets hot over vanilla, Dudley Do-Right types.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:31 AM
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54. Evolution?
Power and status in men are attractive to most women. This may tend to drive women toward the CEO, but we are still tribal creatures under the skin. The "bad boy" also has a chance to knock off the chief and take over the tribe (or at least to loot the chief's body), so individual prowess could be as attractive as true leadership skills--the former is also easier for the adolescent mind to grasp, so I can understand why a young woman might tend to prefer the bad boy.

I dunno. These things seem obvious to me, but the human mind is complex, and there may be all sorts of reasons for the phenomenon.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:44 AM
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55. it's the whole package: the smell of the blood of the vanquished;
the thousand yard stare.

women love a man who could potentially feed them in a post-apocalyptic america.

it's been that way since european savages dragged their ragged knuckles across the plains searching for roman centurions.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:00 AM
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56. This is ONE woman who does not care a bit for that bit of bad boy
I want a MAN...a hippie, preferably.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:52 AM
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58. I think men and women alike are attracted to strong people
Who wants to be around a whining Drama Queen-- whether it be a woman or man?

:shrug:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:40 AM
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66. very good point!
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:58 AM
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61. same reason many humans like a bit of "bad" in other humans
we're exciting!

I'm a rebel, Dottie!
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:11 AM
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63. dude, they're chicks
ain't no figuring it out. Think about it for a minute. think about what men have done instead of trying to figure this stuff out: built the pyramids and the other six wonders of the world. explored an entire planet on ridiculously small sailing ships. invented Jazz. came up with geometry, physics, optics and organic chemistry. painted the sistine chapel. started wars. ended wars. wrote symphonies and operas. invented the airplane. put men on the moon. cloned a sheep. climbed Mt. Everest. All of that, and we have no clue about women. tells you something, huh?

and of course, to add to the humiliation, women are better at all of that stuff than we are. go figure.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:18 AM
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64. because the nice boys feel entitled to us, as do the bad boys. may as well go with what is atleast
Edited on Thu May-01-08 10:18 AM by lionesspriyanka
hot and exciting.
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