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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 06:41 PM
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Star Wars ethical question
Was Han justified in shooting Greedo in the original 1977 print version? Defend your position.

http://www.youtube.com/v/sI-rsLGsXfk&hl">Recreation of the scene using Legos
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 06:43 PM
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1. Yes
Greedo was going to kill him anyway. Besides, whose to say what the ethical code in the Star Wars universe is? Maybe Han isn't supposed to care about killing non-humans?
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JTG of the PRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 06:56 PM
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2. Absolutely.
Han Solo was a smuggler, and as a smuggler, he ran into a lot of unsavory characters - other smugglers, bounty hunters, et cetera. If he didn't learn how to survive in a dangerous business in the first place - especially with the Empire running around boarding ships and what not - he never would have survived long enough for us to have a discussion about this! See? Flawless logic! :P
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:06 PM
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3. Of course it weas justified.
that thing was dangerous.

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:15 PM
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4. Yes.
Being a smuggler, Han Solo was not a moral, nor ethical, person. When caught in a bind, such as when corned by Jabba's henchman Greedo (nice name), he had to shoot first. To protect #1.

Han is of that mentality, even if it becomes criminal. Lucas was writing for children, maybe he should have made Han a butler instead. Wait, butlers are known for doing it in kitchens too...


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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:19 PM
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5. Having carefully watched that recreation several times
I must conclude that Han was indeed justified. It was clearly self-defense. Greedo was both physically and verbally threatening, he was armed and had his weapon pointed at Solo, it was clearly a do or die situation.

The court finds for Solo.

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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:28 PM
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7. I wonder if the Mos Eisley Cantina had security cameras
Bounty hunters need to be more careful.

"You're wanted, Wales."
"Reckon I'm right popular. You a bounty hunter?"
"A man's got to do something for a living these days."
"Dyin' ain't much of a livin', boy."
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 09:37 PM
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12. I wonder if the Mos Eisley Cantina band had to kick back 40% to their agent.
And, whether they had to play "Brick House" every night....maybe that's just me.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:20 PM
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6. Yes. Because his life was in danger, and it was necessary character exposition. :)
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:29 PM
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8. Yes, because Greedo is of a lazy, parasitic non-human race.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:31 PM
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9. I think Greedo's lot evolved from these:







BONUS!! I found one of their breeding chambers:



:hide:
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:50 PM
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10. Greedo evolved from a cock ring? Great visual!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:54 PM
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11. That's what the first picture was? OMG!
:blush: :rofl:
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:19 PM
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13. because it was Mos Eisley
also Greedo lacked a soul.
There are a couple of people I'd take out if I ran into them in Mos Eisley :evilgrin:
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Captain Angry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:18 PM
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14. As Greedo had Solo at gunpoint and was robbing him...
Solo was justified in firing first.

Furthermore, it made his character. The 1997 remake turned Greedo into an incredibly bad shot and Han into a man incapable of reacting realistically to being shot.

When you didn't know anything else about Solo, he was a badass. Where would this go, did Luke and Ben pick the right pilot? Etc.

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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:27 PM
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15. Incidentally, that cyclops guy isn't LEGO
He's Mega Bloks.


Don't get me started...
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:37 PM
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16. Who knows? Why not?
We don't get to learn much about Greedo. I figure that Han thought it was the best course of action. No where else does he seem to be a cold blooded murderer, so I'll assume that he was justified, but I don't really care. Even if it was cold blooded murder, it was less of a crime than "Greedo shoots first".
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