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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:06 PM
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Airline Passengers Behaving Badly
You'll never look at, or reach into, an airline seat-back pocket the same after reading this.

Besides being a repository for magazines, newspapers, books, iPods and air-sickness bags, seatback pockets get stuffed with all kinds of disgusting trash, from toenail clippings to mushy meals.


WSJ's Reda Charafeddine asks people in the street about airplane etiquette.
People do things on airplanes that they would never do in other public settings. They pluck eyebrows, polish nails and pick noses. They stick chewed gum in places only other passengers will discover. They blow noses into blankets that get folded up for the next weary traveler. They prop bare feet up on bulkheads and seats. Sometimes they even engage in sex acts.

One reason frequent fliers and flight attendants perceive an increase in offensive behavior may be the decline in air service -- customers seek retaliation for late flights, snippy workers, lost baggage and unavailable upgrades.

"Increasingly, passengers are certain that the airlines are not on their side and actually don't care anything about them," said Irwin Sarason, a University of Washington psychologist in Seattle who has studied passenger behavior. "In that kind of environment, it isn't too surprising that people will not exercise the restraints they normally would."

Though crammed together elbow-to-elbow in more-public conditions than you'd find at a shopping mall, restaurant, church or office, airline passengers sometimes behave as though the cabin were their own small nesting place -- and one where they never have to worry about cleanliness, either.

Steve Cuzzone, finance director for a Birmingham, Ala., manufacturer, has found old french fries, a festering baby diaper, half a hamburger, used Kleenex and wet napkins in seat-back pockets. He put a book in once and pulled it out to find the bottom covered in a melted candy bar.

"If you sit in a middle seat, never look in -- those are the riskiest ones," he said, noting that children often sit between parents and that passengers will dispose of their grossest things in an unoccupied middle seat.

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• Podcast: Passengers behaving badly3Patrick Kerr, who like Mr. Cuzzone participated in a FlyerTalk.com online discussion among frequent travelers of disgusting things people do aboard airplanes, was flying from Reno, Nev., to Dallas when a nearby passenger put a wad of chewing tobacco in his mouth and spit juice into a plastic cup throughout the flight.

As passengers left the plane, Mr. Kerr, a technology manager in St. Louis, said, the man made one last deposit then tucked the cup deep into the seat pocket.

"I said, 'Hey, you left that.' And he said, 'It's OK. They'll get it,' " said Mr. Kerr, who then alerted a flight attendant.

Flight attendants often say that the biggest messes they have to deal with are dirty diapers left in seat-back pockets or worse, handed to them while they are serving beverages and snacks. "Would you hand that off to your server at a restaurant?" said Corey Caldwell, a spokeswoman for the Association of Flight Attendants, a union representing workers at several big airlines. "It's amazing how people treat the inside of aircraft cabins as opposed to other public spaces."

The detritus problem is exacerbated by the fact that most airplanes are only lightly cleaned between each flight. Airlines say planes get a more thorough cleaning overnight and a "deep cleaning" scheduled about every 30 days. In many cases, seat-back pockets aren't thoroughly checked until overnight cleaning crews work over a cabin. "Flight attendants will clean things they see sticking out of seat pockets in between flights, but the deep-down cleaning is reserved for later," says Philip Gee, a US Airways Group Inc. spokesman. At several airlines, including Southwest Airlines Co., flight attendants handle most of the cleanup between flights. AMR Corp.'s American Airlines and UAL Corp.'s United Airlines have cleaning crews pick up trash, fold blankets and replenish supplies between flights. United says its crews brush off seats and replace headsets, too, between flights.

Eric Kaldenberg, a Phoenix regional sales manager, was on a flight home from Las Vegas in March with a passionate couple in first class who were anything but discreet.

"It was pretty disgusting," Mr. Kaldenberg said. He says he and other first-class passengers complained to flight attendants, but no action was taken. He wrote to US Airways, which offered a form-letter apology and voucher for a discount on a future ticket, along with a suggestion that he could have asked to be reseated if the couple bothered him. "I regret your discomfort when observing inappropriate behavior of another passenger," US Airways' Customer Relations office said in the letter. His second complaint drew an apologetic phone call from a customer-service supervisor, he says. US Airways' Mr. Gee says the suggestion that Mr. Kaldenberg should be reseated "probably wasn't the correct response." The flight attendant involved "should have talked to the couple," he said.

While some people are testing boundaries or acting out when away from spouses, friends or seemingly any authority, experts say that for others, air travel leaves people psychologically off-kilter and more likely to do things they wouldn't normally do. Some lose control because the flying experience strips them of all control -- you're told where to sit, when to sit and when you will arrive.

In addition, many people have difficulty being stuffed in close proximity with others and forced to share space, whether it's overhead bin space, armrests or space taken away when the person in front reclines. As planes get more crowded, people get more cramped. The decline in air service likely has also exacerbated the problem. Some people are simply mad at airlines and seek retribution.

"Putting a melting chocolate bar in a seatback is a way of punishing the airline for shoddy treatment," said Robert Bor, a clinical aviation psychologist in London.

What's more, air travel is largely anonymous and, removed from everyday reality, people perceive few consequences to bad behavior. Just the opposite is true: Federal law requires that travelers comply with crew instructions, and penalties for disruptive behavior aboard airplanes can be harsh.

Adding to the dehumanizing of travel is the advent of kiosks, self-service check-in and other money-saving automations. With little interaction with airline employees, some of whom may be grumpy and surly anyway, customers have little emotional connection to airlines, so why worry about trashing their airplanes?

"Some rather enjoy offending others," Dr. Bor said.



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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:10 PM
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1. Another good reason not to fly with an airline.
Edited on Tue May-06-08 02:19 PM by jasonc
but instead buy my own plane.

A Mooney Acclaim Type S

http://www.mooney.com/acclaim-type-s/overview.html



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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:11 PM
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6. thought I should add...
Edited on Tue May-06-08 03:17 PM by jasonc
Sorry Ocelot. I love flying, just not the airlines.

:P

edit: One more pic too:

The office:

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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:58 PM
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7. Friend of mine has a Mooney 252.
We flew it to the Oshkosh airshow a couple of times. I really like Mooneys.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:20 PM
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2. Bunco fight night on an airplane, with lots of boxed wine!!!
:hi:
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:32 PM
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3. Gee, treat people alternately like children and cattle and there's a decrease in manners?
Who could have predicted that?

The real problems are the ratio of FAs to passengers is too low, the lack of cleaning between turnarounds has reached absurd new lows, and passengers are expected to stay planted in their seats for most of the flight.

One of the more clueless bad behaviors that I've seen was when there was a medical emergency and the crew had the passenger on the floor in front of the economy heads. A woman in the row ahead of me apparently decided that she couldn't wait for an available bathroom and stood in her row watching the action while flossing her teeth.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:42 PM
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4. eeewwww the bare feet
i had that one on my last flight to NYC. a red-eye, an empty seat between me and window seat, i'm thinking AHHHH.... comfort... when nasty person in window seat decided that her seat and the empty seat were her freakin' bed. and she sticks her big bare feet practically on my lap. eeewwww.
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:42 PM
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5. Best story ever
A friend was on a plane and this 8 year old boy kept kicking her seat. She asked him to stop several times with the mother sitting right there. She finally says to the woman..."Oh he is cute what is his name?"

Mother... Johnnie

My friend who langered by this time says...

"I'm going to have a baby and I am going to name him Johnnie and I am going to beat him!"

problem solved!
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