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asteroid2003QQ47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 05:08 AM
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do you have anyone on this earth that you would kill for
As I see it, everyone does.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 06:10 AM
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1. I hope not.
Kill to defend, maybe. Maybe.

Die defending, more likely.
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 06:20 AM
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2. Really?
I always love these kinds of situations because there is always a scenario wherein you'd kill for someone.

Suppose someone raped your Momma while you were tied up and had to watch. Think you could kill for somebody then?
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 06:57 AM
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4. In that case, I'm not sure I'd be killing for someone else.
These questions resemble the "ticking time bomb" scenarios dreamed up by wingnuts looking for excuses to torture.

I might be capable of killing for revenge, I suppose, or to defend myself or others, but I had taken your question to refer to my killing because someone else wanted me to. I hope I don't have that in me.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 06:32 AM
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3. Deleted.
Edited on Sat May-10-08 06:33 AM by Perry Logan
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 07:01 AM
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5. Yes.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 07:18 AM
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6. positively nope.
Edited on Sat May-10-08 07:20 AM by Chan790
It goes against what I stand for...

as a politically-conscious person: opposed to the death penalty, opposed to meat consumption, generally opposed to military force.

as compassionate person: human rights activist, anti-animal cruelty, civil-libertarian.

as an intelligent person: see St. Augustine's criticism of the justification of self-defense killing.

Killing is stupidity. Q.E.D.

edit: Okay...if the hypothetical in my subject line were available to me...then yes. Savior of humanity is the highest calling one can aspire to.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 11:08 AM
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7. In defense, yes. In aggression, even if it was in revenge for some horrible wrong... I don't know.
I'd like to think my anger wouldn't cause me to go that far.

But when it comes to defense, I'm willing to do what I have to. There's no such thing as a fair fight. You do what you have to do to make sure the other person can't hurt you or someone else. And if that means you have to choke the life out of them or bash them in the head with a rock hard enough to make sure they go down, then so be it.

Even if I knew that person was going to rape and murder me or someone I cared about, I still doubt I'd sleep well that night though.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 11:12 AM
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8. A month or two ago in Baltimore a man drowned his three children in a hotel bathtub.
If I were the mother of those children, I would have killed that man for what he did. As I see it, if none of the kids were spared, what would I have to live for?

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 11:15 AM
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9. myself?
How's that for a recursive conundrum? :rofl:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 11:18 AM
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10. what do you mean?> i can see myself easily hurt someone who tries to hurt my loved ones
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 11:32 AM
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13. Aren't you supposed to be studying?
Psychometrics or something like that.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 11:34 AM
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14. yes mr. chan
:(

bye
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 11:22 AM
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11. It depends on the definition of "kill for"
In the scenario of being tied up and watching your momma get raped (which sounds like a scene from someone's sick and twisted fantasy movie, by the way), I would say no, not if that killing were a revenge killing. I fail to see how behaving pretty much like the person who hurt my loved one would make anything better.

If I was able to get untied and do the deed to defend my loved one, possibly. I would hope that I could stop the situation short of deadly force.

But these are silly questions, IMO, because it's easy to sit back in my computer chair and run through fictionalized scenarios in my head. Since every situation is unique, complex and based on a lot of criteria, there's no way I can say a simple yes or no.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 11:25 AM
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12. Pretty much my thoughts exactly.
For instance, if I knew the person in the first scenario would get away with it and do it again to someone else... killing him may be the only way to stop it from happening again. One little extra factor, and the whole situation changes.
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