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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 09:48 PM
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24k for a RECORD PLAYER!!!!!!!!!
Edited on Sat May-10-08 10:07 PM by jasonc
OMG, there is nothing in the world that would make me buy this thing.

http://www.musicdirect.com/product/73004



A cheaper one, sure, but not 24K!!!!!!!!1

edit: This just hit me, it is not even ready to play. You still need a tonearm and a cartridge...

which, if you wanted could easily cost another 20k...

edit again: I think I would also need a Phono Pre Amp just for the record player...
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Hidey Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 09:49 PM
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1. Wow.. How could you do this without guilt?
"Be sure to finish the full track of Zepplin.. There's children starving in Africa you know!"
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 09:56 PM
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2. A cheaper version
only 16K http://www.musicdirect.com/product/73003

A demo one for 12K http://www.musicdirect.com/product/81805

and a demo of the first for the bargain price of 18K

http://www.musicdirect.com/product/82106

Jeebus...
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AteAlien Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 09:59 PM
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3. It looks like a robotic vacuum cleaner to me! nt
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 11:15 PM
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4. As a Person with perfect pitch and a Sound engineer..I ain't buying it and I mean EITHER way.
1. Albums can vary a lot depending on when the master was changed (during processing)
2. People can't hear degrees of pitch variation over about .3 %
3. All decent turntables $150.00 up.....have pitch variation WAY smaller than that.



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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 11:36 PM
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5. You are a Sound Engineer?
that is pretty cool. For whom do you do this and how did you get into it? It sounds interesting.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 09:39 AM
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10. Hi..When I was a Studio Musician for CBS (6 Years) I became interested in ....
...the whole process of "How things work".
Since I have/had a degree in Physics, the jump to Sound engineering was really not that hard plus the fact that the engineers at CBS were great teachers and All-Around wonderful people.

I have a fairly simple home studio (now) where I Mess around with things and experiment with recording a few local bands.
The most expensive part of setting up a home studio is the Microphones (damn, they're expensive)....the Cheapest one I use is a Shure SM81...and they run around 350-400 bucks...
The Neumann U87 Microphone is...Well...You don't want to know. :) :)
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 03:33 PM
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17. I dont know if I would want to do that or not...
I really enjoy listening to music, and I am not sure if doing it for a living would ruin it for me, or not.
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ElboRuum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 11:55 PM
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6. An audiophile and his money are soon parted...
Just sayin'.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 09:19 AM
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9. I have parted with quite a bit of it already...
but there is no way in hell I am paying 24k for a record player that still needs:

1) A tonearm

2) a cartridge

3) a Phono stage/ Pre Amp

All of which could easily cost another 30-40K If I went for absolute top of the line stuff.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 12:03 AM
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7. Shit, I just bought the 8-track one.
Seriously, WTF does that thing do, play records?
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 09:17 AM
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8. Yes
it plays records...
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 10:02 AM
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11. Be sure and get a pair of
electrostatic loudspeaker speakers at only $11,500 a pair. And don't forget the Carver amplifiers and support system.

:P
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 02:30 PM
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13. I have a pair of
Bowers and Wilkins 802Ds, they run 14K a pair...

I also have quite a system around them already!
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 03:06 PM
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15. Then I'd say you need to step up to a set of
Plasma/Flame Speakers and/or Tesla Coils

You get a light show and a missile defense system! :P
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 03:31 PM
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16. What if I need...
neither?

:P
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 05:13 PM
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20. I guess "what you need"
may also depend on what happens in November...

Get you a pair of these for the victory celebration (and/or to fend off the Freepers) ;)

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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 05:15 PM
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21. I did not think of that
If the freepers win in the fall, I may need more than that!
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 05:19 PM
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22. You mean something like this?



You should also be able to broadcast/blast your favorite album well into the next state with that setup, maybe even bounce the signal off a nearby planet
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 05:27 PM
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23. You never know when...
those crazy martians might demand some Ray Charles or they invade...

:rofl:
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 06:42 PM
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25. Technically, I was referencing The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
for the bit about "bouncing the signal off a nearby planet" ;)

The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy notes that Disaster Area, a plutonium rock band from the Gagrakacka Mind Zones, are generally held to be not only the loudest rock band in the Galaxy, but in fact the loudest noise of any kind at all. Regular concert-goers judge that the best sound balance is usually to be heard from within large concrete bunkers some thirty-seven miles from the stage, whilst the musicians themselves play their instruments by remote control from within a heavily insulated spaceship which stays in orbit around the planet - or more frequently around a completely different planet.

Their songs are on the whole very simple and mostly follow the familiar theme of boy-being meets girl-being beneath a silvery moon, which then explodes for no adequately explored reason.


Disaster Area

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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 09:05 PM
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30. oh, and here I thought I was being clever...
I have not read that book.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:25 AM
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37. Oh that's okay; you were still clever :)
The books are great though. All five of the trilogy

There's also a set of albums of the radio-series that you could play on your $24,000 turntable ;)
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DaDooRonRon Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 06:00 PM
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24. So then if I told you I run a set of AvantGarde Duos
through a pair of Audiopax 88 SET monoblocks (with Clearaudio on the analog side and NAIM for the digital end) you'd know what I was talking about. :)
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 06:49 PM
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26. No, but I can always look it up.
;)

Being as this is an audiophile's thread, 'tain't no problem researching all these systems

Or just take an average wooden table, put a couple of transducers in the surface, spaced apart just far enough apart for someone's elbows to rest on them. That way, when you place your hands over your ears, you will hear what's being played :)

Laurie Anderson did that as part of one of her art & sound exhibits that came to Houston many years back.
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DaDooRonRon Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:13 PM
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27. Have a go!
You'll know the AvantGardes when you find them.

They do tend to stand out a bit. :)
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:32 PM
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28. Yeah, I should say so!


:o

I have a pair of Polk 10s, though one of them has needed a new tweeter for years. Then again, seeing as how the Luxman receiver has been essentially dead for a little longer, none of that system is getting any use. I pretty much rely on my Sennheiser wireless headphones and my computer for my current "soundsystem" ;)
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DaDooRonRon Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:02 PM
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29. There it be!
The horns on mine are silver.

Interesting note: Avantgarde contracts with Porsche for their finishes, so the horns can be finished in your choice of Porsche colors.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 09:08 PM
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32. Now that I read the rest of the thread
Edited on Sun May-11-08 09:11 PM by jasonc
I know that they are.

Holy Crap!!!!!1

those are unique looking speakers.

How do they sound?

Here is where I specified what I have:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=7720879&mesg_id=7722264
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DaDooRonRon Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:39 AM
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33. They sound wonderful
Most horn speakers are very directional (i.e. you need to stand in one specific spot to get optimum sound) and what is called in "the biz" as "front-loaded", meaning they're very bright - great at producing high and mid-ranges but weak in the low end.

these are nothing like that - they're the only horn speaker I've ever heard that are not bright or brassy.

I love the things, but they are an absolute bitch to match up with the right amp. The horns are incredibly efficient and very picky, so they work best with low power analog (tube!) amps.
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DaDooRonRon Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:11 AM
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36. Ah, I love the VTL stuff
but they throw off way too much power for the Avantgrades, and my room isn't shaped correctly for them.

The Avantgardes really prefer single-ended stuff like the Audiopax amps, or Art Audio stuff.

There's even a small company out of Italy called Prelude that makes an integrated amp (at about 4K) that folks say sounds great with them - I'm trying to convince a friend who is a dealer/rep to let me "borrow" one for a while.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 09:06 PM
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31. Not really
I know what monoblocks are, but thats about it.

I do not know those brands.
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DaDooRonRon Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:44 AM
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34. Avantgarde and Clearaudio are German
Audiopax is from Brazil, but they stopped importing into the U.S. a while ago because of currency issues (i.e. they can't make any money selling the amps here in the U.S.).
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 12:38 PM
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12. The saddest part of the whole thing...
is that, by the time you raise enough money to buy a stereo good enough to surround this turntable, your ears have been work-hardened to the point you can't hear the difference anyway.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 02:30 PM
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14. Probably true
no matter, I would not buy it anyway!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 03:41 PM
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18. That would look great on my 25,000 ton polished marble turntable stabilizer stand!
Edited on Sun May-11-08 03:43 PM by Rabrrrrrr
Man, the full adio fidelity of those old Tiffany and Chipmunks 1200g albums is gonna be FANTASTIC!

:rofl:

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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 03:52 PM
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19. OHHH the CHIPMUNKS...
A true audiophile album if there ever was one...

:rofl:
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:04 AM
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35. It doesn't even have a song shuffle feature.
Lame.

:P
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