Ted Kennedy needs our prayers right now, guys.

[Drunken Irishman]

Please, even if you are not religious, pray for him. :(

[bertha katzenengel]

1. Nothing on the news sites - what are you hearing?

:(

[Drunken Irishman]

2. He has a brain tumor.

[leftofthedial]

3. what about all the people with tumors who DON'T have free medical care?

and a brazillion dollars?

Are you praying for them too?

[DS1]

5. there's always one

le sigh

[Drunken Irishman]

6. I know. :(

[leftofthedial]

11. no. there are millions.

By all means, pray for Sen. Kennedy. It's a very hard situation.

Just don't forget the people whose welfare the Kennedy family have championed.

[Drunken Irishman]

14. I lost my brother to cancer.

It's tough.

:(

[leftofthedial]

15. My sister is a breast cancer survivor (10 years! :-) )

and a very close friend had a seizure 5 years ago and they found a tumor very similar to Sen. Kennedy's. It's very hard.

I'm sorry for your loss.

[Drunken Irishman]

16. I'm glad your sister surived and I hope your close friend did as well.

[malta blue]

7. ...

:wow:

[Midlodemocrat]

22. Dude. Not now.

[leftofthedial]

24. if not now, when? Kennedy himself championed those without for his whole career.

Pray for all of them.

Now.

[Tektonik]

28. tact

HAVE YOU EVER FUCKING HEARD OF IT?

[leftofthedial]

34. clue

HAVE YOU EVER FUCKING HAD ONE?

[Breeze54]

29. WTF? Who do you think has been fighting the Rethugs to get it for you for years!?!

:crazy:

"The fight for health care has been the driving dream of my public service -

- starting with my brother's crusade to pass Medicare into law."

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Remarks_by_Ted_Kennedy_at_the_2000_Democratic_National_Convention

[leftofthedial]

32. exactly my point

if you'd bother to read the other posts in this subthread.

[Breeze54]

44. I don't need you're snyde remarks tonight.

Give it a fucking rest.

[leftofthedial]

46. snyde? snyde?

I'll show you snyde!

But first, I need a nap.

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

47. Yup.

:eyes:

I agree with the poster of this reply that everyone with a brain tumor deserves to be prayed for, but I don't think it's inappropriate to ask for prayers for Senator Kennedy. He's been a champion in the Senate for over 40 years, for many people.

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[bicentennial_baby]

4. I'm crying...

:cry:

[BlueIris]

8. This is just...not how I wanted to begin my day. All best to him and the family. nt

[malta blue]

9. This is so heartbreaking....

:cry:

[BarenakedLady]

10. That is sad.

I feel for Patrick and the rest of his family too.

:(

[Reverend_Smitty]

12. This doesn't look good according to CNN

My thoughts and prayers go out to the Senator and his family :cry:

[skygazer]

13. I hope he and his family come through this okay

But I have to say, its sort of odd to ask people who aren't religious to pray. What earthly good would the prayers of someone who doesn't beleive in the power of prayer do?

I don't mean that to be snarky but it just strikes me as odd.

[Drunken Irishman]

17. I think people sometimes do things even if they don't believe in them.

Mostly to help others.

They might not believe in God, but they can pray. We can all pray and that's the beauty of prayer. :)

[sarge43]

19. As Robert Heinlein once wrote: Prayer: can't hurt, might help. n/t

[Westegg]

23. So tap into a power greater than yourself...

...and send out a silent message of hope. It doesn't have to be a "God" of any particular religion. Unless you believe there is no power greater than yourself in the universe.

[skygazer]

25. Oh, brother

I don't want to get into a theological debate in a thread that is about Ted Kennedy, a man whom I admire and for whom I hope only the best. But just because I don't believe "tapping into" any power is going to make any difference in anyone's life doesn't mean I think so highly of myself that I "believe there is no power greater than yourself in the universe."

I hope for the best, for him and his family. If people choose to comfort themselves with prayer, that is their choice and all power to 'em. There are ways of feeling compassion and hope other than imploring "powers" or deities for help, you know. Each of us in our own way. Offering nothing but variations on prayer just ignores that.

Again, I'm not trying to piss in anyone's corn flakes. The wording of the OP simply struck me as odd when asking people who didn't believe in it to pray. That is all.

[trotsky]

30. A lot of people don't give a rat's ass about non-believers.

We're SUPPOSED to kowtow and yield to THEIR beliefs, even emulate them if we're told to, and if we don't, then shame the fuck on us and get called an atheist fundamentalist or other such nonsense.

[Skittles]

51. funny how it always brings out their REAL side, eh trotsky?

yes INDEED! :7

[S n o w b a l l]

36. Oh good grief...

Prayer in this circumstance = good wishes & thoughts. Whether you believe in God, a higher power, white light or positive energy. It matters not and if your good wishes turn out to be one of these, what can it hurt? Prayer to many of us doesn't mean praying to some deity. It's only giving positive thoughts.

Why do people have to fuck up a thoughtful, caring thread with this bullshit?

[skygazer]

38. And I tried to point out in every response

That I was not trying to "fuck up" anyone's thread. I made an observation, added more than once that my hopes are that Senator Kennedy and his family will come through this okay and that there are many ways of offering hope and compassion. And I do very much offer hope and compassion to him.

"Whether you believe in God, a higher power, white light or positive energy." Well, I don't believe in any of that, which was my point. Why do people have to cram their beliefs down the throat of everyone else? It's all variation on prayer to some "power" and I simply tried to (gently) point out that there are other ways of feeling compassion. Obviously my ways don't live up to your standards - so very sorry. :banghead:


And to you, Senator, my best wishes.

[S n o w b a l l]

40. I didn't say you had to believe in it...

I said...good thoughts aren't necessarily categorized. All they really are...are good thoughts. People seem to be so damn thin skinned when it comes to religion, they strike out and act indignant when all someone was asking for were good thoughts. You don't have to be so literal. Just look at the big picture and the sentiment of the thread. That's all.

[Haole Girl]

18. Sending thoughts and prayers for Sen. Kennedy and his family

Dammit... I hate cancer.

:cry:

[1gobluedem]

20. That family has suffered so much

My heart goes out to them and their patriarch.

[applegrove]

21. Sending out vibes to Sen Edward Kennedy and his family.

[JTG of the PRB]

26. He's got them.

Gods, I hope he'll be okay... He's one of the good guys. He's one of our greatest leaders of the last 40 years. We still need him.

Please get well soon, Senator. :(

[CaliforniaPeggy]

27. He does need our prayers...

And he has mine...

Thank you, my dear Drunken Irishman, for this thoughtful thread...

:cry:

[femmocrat]

31. I have been heart-broken since hearing this terrible news.

My sincerest and most heart-felt prayers and hopeful wishes to Senator Kennedy and his family.

[Lil Missy]

33. Very tragic news. The Kennedy family has always had such a tragic history too.

:(

[applegrove]

35. Sending along good vibes.

[S n o w b a l l]

37. You bet...I have been since I heard...

What a great man and I'm heartbroken. But, I never, ever give up hope.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

39. Oh this makes me so sad.

Teddy was the only one of the three Kennedy brothers to get to do any real good. It just breaks my heart that this is how he has to go. HE survives plane crashes and some terrible car accidents to be killed by fucking cancer? God that sucks.
I'm crying. I admire him so much, and I admired his brothers, all cut down way too soon.
Duckie

[LaraMN]

41. What a serious bummer.

This totally sucks.
I hope he responds well to whatever treatment is entailed.

:(

[GenDem]

42. This is not good news

It is heart breaking for him and his family. It is also a loss that can't even begin to be measured for the millions of people that Senator Kennedy champions for.

Very, very sad news.

:-(

[Weary Traveler]

43. Let's Pray together!

I love the lord. And I will pry for the liberal lion. I know if more then one gathers in accord, he will listen. Teddy, "we need you to survive!"

[njdemocrat106]

45. Amen! Will do.

If you believe in the power of prayer, or positive energy, or good thoughts, or what-have-you, please send them along to Senator Kennedy. They certainly cannot hurt.

Love ya, Senator! Go kick the $hit out of that tumor!

[Mojambo]

48. I have no prayers to give, but I wish him the best possible chance at recovery. n/t

[Skittles]

49. ditto

he needs medical care more than prayers

[crimsonblue]

50. prayers do no good.

all it does it make the praying person feel better. Nobody is listening to your prayers...

[TK421]

53. My thoughts are with him....I personally don't believe in prayers

having been brought up strict Catholic, I have also been turned off to the church for other reasons. I will, however send good vibes his way.

The outcome is not a good one