Excuse me, but country, is not music

[Parche]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgAfRX_jdJw

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
Jeezus fukin krist, I could make a better song with both hands tied

Does he really think this is music?

[RaVeN_MeaD]

1. I like to make this point

Over the years how many "ROCK" songs have been covered by country artists. ok. Now ask yourself how many "Country" songs have been covered by rock artists. The answer speaks for it's self.

[Bake]

3. Blue Moon of Kentucky (Bill Monroe) comes to mind ...

Covered by The King.

Also, aren't Monroe and Johnny Cash in the ROCK AND ROLL Hall of Fame?

Bake

[RaVeN_MeaD]

8. Yeah they are...

because when you put them next to chet atkins and Hank sr. they are rock.

[fishwax]

15. those two are in the hall of fame as well

[RaVeN_MeaD]

24. touche nt

[BOSSHOG]

10. Your post would be much more compelling

if you provided the answer to your questions. Pray tell. How many?? I don't know the answer so all I'm hearing is the sound of silence.

[RaVeN_MeaD]

25. sorry i fugured fans of either would be able to answer that...

Imagine, the ballad of john and yoko, landslide, don't want to close my eyes, feel like making love, handfulls of eagles and skynyrd, hard luck woman, are all songs covered by country artists. i know its a short list but that's just off the top of my head and inbetween calls at work. As for Country songs covered by rock artists other than the 2 listed above i don't know of any from the last 30 years. the joke is that country artists can't write their own songs. haha. get it?

[av8rdave]

56. My daughter has a C&W version of Dire Straits "Walk of Life" on her iPod

[NashVegas]

31. Social Distortion - Ring Of Fire

Kicks the motherfucking ass off of anything.

[newmajority]

43. Excellent choice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96x_FiQIB6E

[jobycom]

35. It's a weak point, actually.

First, good country doesn't lend itself to rock production, whereas a lot of rock songs can be made country--not always well, but they can be. Practically anything Aerosmith writes, for one example, can be sung with a twang and arranged for country, but imagine Hank Williams or Willie Nelson converted to rock. Even when the music can be worked, the lyrics are of a different culture.

Second, songwriting is like any other freelance writing. You write a song, you shop it around to the highest bidder. Some songs are written for one genre or another, or even one artist or another, but a lot of songs can be either rock or country (otherwise the song wouldn't be recorded by both genres). So a good song is going to be shopped to rock artists first. Hence, the better songs start out rock, and get "covered" by country artists, but that has nothing to do with the quality of either genre. It has to do with money, and the fact that more people listen to rock, which means rock pays better.

Also, rock has more bands, country more soloists, and soloists are less likely to write their own stuff, meaning they rely on freelance songwriters more often.

At its best, country is as good as anything rock produces. At its worst, rock is as bad as the worst country. In the middle, rock is better, but that's because of the money, and because the country music execs suck. They keep trying to recapture last year's hit, rather than find next year's artist, so they get a lot of weak talent who look good in hats or tight jeans, rather than someone with a genuine musical creativity.

[newmajority]

46. The Grateful Dead played country songs all the time

Like Johnny Cash's "Big River"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sw8bvZJkRU

Marty Robbins' "El Paso"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz4PfIIfI2c

Just two of many they played, but I'm not finding videos for the rest of them :(

Probably the most hilarious cover ever was when they played a show with the Beach Boys and they all sang Merle Haggard's "Okie from Muskogee"

[newmajority]

50. Keith Richards sings George Jones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9djIgPpuNM

[Shell Beau]

2. You tell that to Waylon, Willie and the boys!!!!!!

:P

[IndianaJones]

4. down in Luckenbach Texas. nt.

[jobycom]

7. Throw in some Lyle, Dwight, Dolly, and EmmyLou. nt

[BOSSHOG]

12. Saw Dwight Yokum

at the House of Blues in NOLA a few years back. Excellent show.

Per OP - some country sucks, some rock sucks but there is a whole bunch of good in both genres.

[jobycom]

16. yah, there is. I will say that country tends to have more bad stuff on the average

Although that seems to come and go in waves. The Garth era was brilliant for a couple of year, but they've been in a slump since then. Even so, they've produced Rascal Flats and Keith Urban, and lately they've been getting some new talent. Seems to be a touch of R&B influence, especially Rascal Flats, and Jack Ingram. I heard someone last night I'd never heard before, might have some potential: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlEsRtKR-mk

[Beaverhausen]

14. How about some Patsy, Lucinda and Vince Gill

[jobycom]

18. Poor Vince. You had to use his last name!

:rofl:

Lucinda's a good songwriter, too. Like Tony Arata (The Dance) and Gretchen Peters (Bus to St Cloud, Independence Day).

[Beaverhausen]

20. Vince is an awesome guitar player

not sure enough people know this.

[jobycom]

22. He's very good, but did you see him try to keep up with Chet Atkins?

Vince used to win awards for his guitar play, but on one show--CMA, I think--they got him to play some improv with Chet Atkins. Not that many people could keep up with Chet, but Vince got lost so badly that afterwards he said he picked on himself.

That's more praise for Chet Atkins than criticism of Vince Gill, though. Atkins was as good as the best in any genre.

[Bake]

23. Another Vince factoid

He played with Pure Prairie League back in the day.

Bake

[redqueen]

28. No way! I did not know that.

He looks kinda like my ex. It's ruined it for me.

[jobycom]

36. Yeah.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PShQda3O18 (Let me love you tonight).

Remember Seals and Croft? Dan Seals went country, too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUXCaXSTmns

[stuntcat]

29. LYLE

it's 100% MUSIC!!: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=B-_W18CWypE

[TrogL]

5. I'm sorry, three chords and four notes does not "music" make

A typical country song has four notes, used pretty much interchangeably. They all start on "mi" and bounced around between "do", "re" and "mi" in simple quarters and eighths. The highlight of a verse is that one, single "fa". The chorus is is pretty much "re" and "me" throughout.

Chord structure:

I-IV-I-V
I-IV-I-V-I
V-I-V-I-IV-V

Nary a 7th, Dim or any other intersting chord in sight.

I'm into the blues, another style with a predicatable chord pattern, but one of the goals of the blues is to see how far you can get AWAY from that pattern and still be recognizably "the blues".

[Manifestor_of_Light]

19. Very true.

BOOOOOOOORRRRIIIIINNNNGGGGGGGG!


:boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring:

[jobycom]

6. Then do it.

Please.

[nomorenomore08]

9. It's not as bad as "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk," though. That's a whole 'nother level of suck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9VzEulip9Q

And now, to cleanse the palate, some David Allan Coe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEo8poVlQrM

[BOSSHOG]

11. Yo Parche, open the bar so I can feed the jukebox

I'd love to hear Alan Jackson's new CD "Good Time." I know you'll love it.

[RadiationTherapy]

13. I agree, though it is unprovable.

Cue the list of five or six musicians who make decent country music, half of which will be from their heyday in the 1970's or before. Mostly 40s and 50s.

[Mr. Blonde]

52. "Current" country artists making decent music

Ryan Adams (sometimes I admit)
Old 97's
Son Volt
Wilco
Steve Earle

And I'm not a huge fan of country, but all of those are very good to great at times. Country like most other genres is crap on the radio, and much better when you dig deeper to discover.

[supernova]

17. No, it's pseudo-country

Pretty much anything after about the mid-70s, when country music got away from traditional bluegrass and americana roots music is when I lost interest.

[CreekDog]

21. Willie Nelson asked me to hit you

...and if you have any Ding Dongs. :shrug:

[hellbound-liberal]

26. George Thorogood did a couple of nice covers of country songs:

Both are really good but Cocaine Blues is still pretty "country".

Move it On Over

George Thorogood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV05IH3a4Bg

Hank Williams
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFkEyvhkqpc



Cocaine Blues

George Thorogood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtrR2E-o8Wg

Johnny Cash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-2eD5hixEQ

[panhead1961]

27. iT'S BETTER THAN RAP

[stlsaxman]

30. This is NOT country music- this is trash. "Modern Country" sucks n/t

[NashVegas]

32. That's Not Country That's That Mutt Lang Bullshit

All the old AOR guys are selling to Music Row.

Now that said, pretty much all blues-based music is the most limited in scope of anything there is.

Some people just make it more interesting than others.

[Xipe Totec]

33. That's not country - this is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPMw14tTp7w

[elshiva]

34. The Carter Family IS music.

[IntravenousDemilo]

37. Gee, thanks for the dreadful earworm.

:eyes:

[SoxFan]

38. PFFFFFFFTTTT!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHyGuI3N2x0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsMSI_6X1vI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBjTEy5PKhs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVSeKnTzg6U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w49kODK02Bw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyAATgzDg8c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAXkY_WBDX4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwe8ubkysO0

[newmajority]

49. Thought I was the only one on the planet who remembered Lone Justice!

God damn I was so in love with Maria back then :loveya:

This one is even more country than Creedence......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBkn18uSNHE

[SoxFan]

53. Aaah, Maria!

I saw them open for U2 back in '85 and promptly went out and bought their album.

[mvd]

39. I don't care for that song, but there's a lot of good country

"Modern country" artists such as Vince Gill, Lee Ann Womack, Taylor Swift, Garth Brooks, George Strait, Dwight Yoakam, Carlene Carter, and the Dixie Chicks are very good, as are older stars such as Willie, Waylon, Johnny, Jim Reeves, Charley, Merle, Loretta, Tammy, Dolly, Emmylou, Patsy.

Trace Adkins was pretty great when he started out.

[jobycom]

40. Yeah, he was decent.

He had a fresh sound, kind of humble and honest. Now he's the opposite.

[coyotespaw]

47. And we can't forget former Air America Radio host Steve Earle...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVaPwdgezWI

I'll admit that lately, country music sounds like really stale pop music, every now and again a new act pops up that seems to be making music for the sheer love of making music comes around (Brad Paisley comes to mind.)

[mvd]

55. Oh yes, I'm a Steve Earle fan

There are plenty of others in the mainstream I love: Patty Loveless, Brad Paisley (usually at least), Martina McBride, Miranda Lambert, Randy Travis, some Keith Urban, etc.

In msinstream country, I don't hate much of it, but there are definitely some albums I wouldn't buy.

[Left Is Write]

41. It's not? Tell that to Johnny Cash, George Jones, Don Williams, and Emmylou Harris.

Country most certainly IS music, Trace Adkins and his ilk notwithstanding.

[MrSlayer]

42. It's music, bad music but music nonetheless.

I hate country.

[Fox Mulder]

44. Unfortunately, it's music.

No matter how much I hate country music, it's still music.

[UndertheOcean]

45. My EAAARS

[Tuesday Afternoon]

48. Prove it, dude ...

I am waiting on the other end of the radio.

[newmajority]

51. And just in case you're driving home early sunday morning through Bakersfield.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wziS9tiuEU8

[KG]

54. that ain't country, that's pop music with a fiddle and pedal steel thrown in - which describes most

country music anyway.