I'm no longer a Davis Love III fan

[ewagner]

As some of you may know he was hassled on the course by a fan today. When asked about the incident in his post game press conference, he said that the harrassment is a "sign of society" and the lack of all the "things President Bush is trying to restore."

I never thought of him politically at all, much less as a conservative. I've respected his abilities on the golf course but I'll never respect him as a person again.

[Toby109]

1. Also a good friend of Fatboy

Limbaugh. Love III is an ass. Always has been.

[carpetbagger]

2. Here's Dan Quayle going nutso on St. Andrews last week.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4287278/

Excerpt from Feb 26:
Former Vice President Dan Quayle got pretty teed when playing golf. The gaffe-prone ex-veep startled fellow golfers when he lost his temper on a putting green in Scotland, according to a caddy, and smashed a golf club deep into the green at Old Course at St Andrews, Scotland.

“He emerged … as if something had jagged his bottom,” caddy James Bowman told the BBC of Scotland. “He then proceeded to three-putt the green. His nostrils were flared in rage and, to everyone’s shock, he buried the shaft of his club into the green. It took me a long time afterwards to get it back.” Bowman said that Quayle’s outburst was overlooked because of his political status, saying, “Anyone else would have been banned.”

[osaMABUSh]

3. DL3 political commentary on the Tour ???

wow, that is something. I always thought of DL3 as a good golfer but not very passionate about the game; I could never see him as achieving to level of an Arnold, Jack, Gary or Tiger.

What was the harassment about?

Sounds like a true repuke - trying to shift the debate to 'values' rather than issues or substance.

[ewagner]

6. Some fans were

following him and harrassing him after the swing.....said something like No Love according to the announcers. He confronted them and had the guy ejected from the course.

Apparently Tiger felt some compassion for DLIII and conceded a putt that was a bit longer than usual on the very next green.

on edit: Yes you were right! He tried to shift the blame to the old "values" argument. I almost puked..

[DenverDem]

8. Rabbit ears took offense to someone cheering Tiger by yelling,

"No Love!" and petulantly had the perpetrators tossed.

TOUR players are obscenely overpaid and are bourgeoise assholes almost to a man. The younger guys are less assinine.

DLIII is a spoilt country club kid who never got any perspective. He's a punk assed bitch and I'm glad Tiger kicked his whiny butt.

BTW-the PGA TOUR, who get almost half a billion dollars every four years from the television networks is a 501c3 NON PROFIT. It's a huge tax scam for the corporate sponsors. The executives are paid like they are running a huge corporation but the workers are paid like they are working for a real non profit. It's some sick shit.

I still love the game of golf, however. It's not the game's fault it's been taken over by eliteists.

[ewagner]

16. Thanks for the info

about the PGA Tour....I didn't know about the 501c3 bit......

[AngryAmish]

17. Each PGA Tour tourney is devoted to a charity

A PGA support charity put me through college. No one - and I mean no one - is guaranteed money on the PGA Tour. And about half of the entrants make no money in each tournament. Spoilt - yes. However, for a game where the physical barriers are so low (unlike professional basketball most males in the USA have the necessary stature to play professional golf) those who reach the top are f'n amazing at what they do. Literally four or five standard deviations from the mean. But Tiger is amazing.

[burythehatchet]

4. Wow ... thanks for the info

I love golf and usually keep the game separate from politics. But this is something I can't ignore. Glad he got whooped today.

[Gman]

5. There has always been something about Love III I didn't like

never could quite put my finger on it. It was always something about the way Love looks. But maybe now, that's what I was seeing in his face.

[shivaji]

7. The PGA tour has very few democrats

I have followed golf all my life and the only white golfer
I can think of who supported democrats is the "shark". He
played Bill Clinton quite often.

But he is from Australia. Dunno if he became US citizen.
I am sure Tiger and other full or part black Americans are
democrat leaning.

[Asteroid]

9. Just what values has Bush been trying to restore

Please tell us Davie?

[DenverDem]

10. Rich people are good

and the rest of us collective unwashed do not deserve to have opinions.

That's the only point I can imagine he could be making given the circumstances.

[jfxgillis]

11. Jack Nicklaus is/was a declared Democrat , but he

hated Clinton.

Greg Norman declared himself a Republican, but adored Clinton.

And I wouldn't count on Tiger for our side in long run, either, though I suspect he leans our way now on "culture war" grounds.

[AngryAmish]

19. Norman and Clinton have hobbies in common

[DoctorBombay]

12. Not a surprise at all

Davis Love III is the privelidged son of a golf pro who admitted (I read this once) that he's never worked a day in his life. He never had so much as a paper route. So, you see, he and Shrub have quite a bit in common.

What an asshole.

I watch quite a bit of golf, and a big majority of the PGA tour pros are like this. I also watch some European Tour golf, and their players usually come from much different backgrounds.

[jfxgillis]

13. Here's the quote. Pretty fucking stupid:

Q. You've been around the game -- you're 40 years old. You've played the Tour for a long time. A lot of us think it's the Tiger effect. Since he joined the Tour, this new group of golf fan has come on who doesn't respect the game or doesn't have any etiquette. Have you noticed it that way? I noticed it down at the Masters around 92, 93, before Tiger. They got Ian Woosnam pretty good Sunday afternoon. Have you noticed a great change and can you remember when it came?

DAVIS LOVE III: I don't remember when it came, but I don't think it's just golf. I think it's our whole society. They don't respect what other people do, don't respect your elders, don't respect other people's space, don't respect traditions or etiquette or customs. You see it in every sport, you see it walking down the street, not holding the door open for a lady when you're supposed to. It's what President Bush is fighting for, you know, traditions and etiquette and being good people. (emphasis added)

It doesn't matter if Tiger, John Daly, Fred Couples, anybody gets people excited, Greg Norman, Jack Nicklaus. People get excited to watch them play, but you've got to respect the person first and then you've got to respect the game and then respect how hard it is to play the game, and let people play.

I heard it five times this week, people say, "Do you want a beer" when I'm walking through the ropes. I don't drink beer when I'm out at dinner, like last night. I don't need a beer when I just birdied a hole or when I just bogeyed a hole. People just assume that we're out here screwing around, and we're not screwing around, we're playing hard. I played however many guys I played, a bunch of great players this week. It's hard work, and I don't come into your office and screw you up. Don't come in my office and screw me up.

[DenverDem]

14. Tell that to NBA players trying to make a free throw at an away game.

It's hard to defend golf as a sport with moronic crap like this coming out of a petulant brat like dl3.

[jfxgillis]

15. What's most inane

is that Bush has godawful manners anyway. He's crude, impolite and indiscreet, everything that heckler supposedly was.

Now, if DLIII had something like "What Senator Lugar or Senator Chuck Hagel are fighting for," to name a couple of well-mannered Repubs, he might have a point.

But BUSH? Bush is a classic upper-class boor.

[ewagner]

18. Yup!

That's what I heard. I couldn't find the transcript though.

Thanks for posting it.

[Doctor_J]

20. Ahem

Dear Trey. Here are a couple of FACTS you might want to let sink in:

1. 98% of the golfers, and 100% of the spectators, at any given tournament, are right-wing Repuglicans, including those bad, bad people who were so rude to you yesterday.

2. The man you think is trying to restore manners to society has killed 20000 people in a war he lied and continues to lie about, calls people who disagree with him "assholes" out loud, insults journalists because they are multi-lingual, and made other heads of state blush with his frequent use of the "f" word during a summit meeting.

Botcott the PGA - it consists of, is run by, and frequented by, country club wingers who never worked a day in their lives.

[CrownPrinceBandar]

21. 'scuse me Dr.....

you have any facts to back up those numbers youre tossing out there?