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peruban Donating Member (888 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 04:41 AM
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Favorite classical composer.
Edited on Tue Dec-02-08 05:34 AM by peruban
For me, I'd go with J.S. Bach. His work just sounds like mathematics.

Mozart is second for the emotion and perfection of his work.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 04:58 AM
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1. How's Smetana?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlLPLO90fSk

Ma Vlast Moldau Kubelik Czech
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peruban Donating Member (888 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 05:31 AM
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3. Marvelous!
I never heard of Smetana, looks like I have researching to do. Oh, and the link was great, too.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 05:37 AM
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5. Glad you like it!
I 'feel' that piece, the Moldau River, every time, and actually heard it in Prague recently! What a surprise!

Also like Dvorak: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmZ25MDvzNU From the New World Symphony when he visited the U.S. Listen for some traditional/folk smidgens.
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peruban Donating Member (888 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 05:42 AM
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6. I like Dvorak, too.
I've only heard a few of his pieces so I have some more to look forward to. And the link you posted is very dramatic.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 05:18 AM
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2. I'd rank J.S.B. as the best composer
But I can't really cite a favourite as my favourites are constantly changing and flitting around - usually one of the following:

Messiaen
Victoria
Shostakovich
Tallis
J.S.B.
Wagner
Monteverdi
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peruban Donating Member (888 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 05:33 AM
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4. Aside from J.S. Bach and Wagner
I hadn't heard of the others. Thanks for the suggestions. I'm going to find some of their works. Thanks again.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 05:44 AM
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7. Tallis Fantasia,
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peruban Donating Member (888 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:24 AM
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8. You see? This is why I love DU.
I get to learn something new every day.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:02 AM
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10. AND,
how could I forget?

Mozart Rondo alla Turca, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCSevzJQ2-Y&feature=related which is ALSO BRUBECK!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc34Uj8wlmE
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:26 AM
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9. They're quite a varied bunch
Messiaen was a French composer - there should be a reasonable amount of his stuff around at the moment as it's the centenary of his birth. I salivate over modern French organ music which is how I found him, I strongly recommend "Quator pour le fin de temps" (Quartet for the end of time) which was written in a Nazi P.o.W. camp and Turangalila Symphony.

Victoria, renaissance Spanish composer - I believe that he's the only composer who only ever wrote sacred music...as such there are tons of Masses, motets and so forth. My favourite is probably his Requiem of 1605.

Shostakovich, Soviet composer not generally very easy going. Famous for his symphonies and for nearly being killed off because Stalin didn't like one of his operas. His 7th symphony was written and premiered during the siege of Leningrad (from inside the city). His piano and 'cello concerti and 5th symphony are good entry points, his string quartets are incredibly intense.

Tallis, English renaissance composer during the Elizabethan golden age. Bridged the gap between the protestant vernacular music and R.C. Latin - his motet "Spem in Alium" is particularly famous, being scored for 40 voices (to be honest, it was a bit of an ego-trip after a Spanish composer wrote for a similarly large number...but the result is sublime).

Monteverdi, Italian composer on the cusp of the Baroque. The "father of opera" wrote some of the very earliest operas still performed, L'Orfeo and L'Incoronzione di Poppea. Also worked at St. Mark's Venice, and composed much in that very distinctive Venetian voice.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:52 PM
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38. Victoria is a good choice
I have a friend who loved Victoria in college. We put out a song based on a Victoria sample, even.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:10 AM
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11. Tchaikovsky is right up there for me.
I love this piece:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HEQqtoAwjY

And also this one by Mozart:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgz-5sF8PC4

And this one by Barber:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRMz8fKkG2g

I am intrinsically drawn to heartbreakingly sad compositions.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:25 AM
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12. That's certainly true of Barber's Adagio.
.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:06 AM
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49. My favorite Tchaikovsky is the Serenade for Strings
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:54 AM
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13. Beethoven, Bach, Vivaldi, Brahms, Mozart, Haydn, Monteverdi, Copland and Debussy
Edited on Tue Dec-02-08 07:54 AM by new_beawr
Would make a shitty baseball team, but are all "my favorite" composers

oh, and this guy too:

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peruban Donating Member (888 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:18 AM
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14. I love all of those.
Monteverdi and Copland, though, I'm not too familiar with. Also, I can't tell who that is in the portrait.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:59 AM
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18. The portrait is of PDQ Bach, aka the brilliant Peter Shickele
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:31 PM
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36. oh gosh, I had not thought about PDQ Bach for years. I love that silly stuff
Thank you
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:22 AM
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15. :o)
I was just thinking the phrase 'I virtuosi di Hoople' on the ride in to work today.

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gemdem Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 11:00 PM
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42. P.D.Q.!
Edited on Tue Dec-02-08 11:00 PM by gemdem
God bless Peter Schickele!

:-)
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:28 AM
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16. Bach is baroque, technically. :-) But damned good, indeed!
Edited on Tue Dec-02-08 08:30 AM by Rabrrrrrr
Mozart is Classical.

I, too, love me some Bach.

I'm not as big on Mozart - not that he's bad, but the Classical period itself I don't find as interesting as the earlier and later stuff - baroque and renaissance is wonderful, and I'm a huge fan of the Romantic and modern periods.

My favorite composers are Mahler, Sibelius, Shostakovitch, Wagner, Dvorak, Bartok - and Bach, Buxtehude, and Purcell; and in the modern era, I'm a big fan of Messiaen Debuusy, Smetana, Penderecki, Zappa, Glass, Reich, Hindemith, Gorecki, Riley.

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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 02:43 PM
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25. Isn't Purcell technically "medieval"?
Hmm, 1695. Wikipedia call him "Baroque". I've gotta dust up my music knowledge again... (I've only got one CD of his music, and look forward to more.)
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 02:53 PM
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27. I don't think "medieval" is a proper musical period term.
At least, I don't remember using it in the history of music classes I had in college.

Seems like it goes Early Music, Renaissance, Baroque, then Classical.

But Purcell is solidly Baroque.

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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 04:06 PM
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28. "Early", got it. I have a few CDs of music from the Crusades era
1000AD+ and they're quite interesting.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:57 PM
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40. definitely Baroque
If it's opera, it's not medieval, or even renaissance, it's baroque or later. The renaissance/baroque split started nearly 100 years earlier, with the likes of Monteverdi, Byrd, and Dowland, who were sort of half way.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 01:36 AM
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52. Dowland is considered Baroque? That's interesting..
I've lost track of when he was alive/active so it could certainly be so..
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:26 AM
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60. he's more late renaissance
but there are aspects to the music, especially the stuff that involves counterpoint, that are Baroque. I don't remember the exact years, but I think he was active from the 1590's to 1610's, or so. My favourite piece of his is Lachrimae, which was published in a book along with some other pieces in 1604. In any case, he lived and composed after the Elizabethan era.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 01:54 PM
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63. I'm sure that you know there are at least two legitimate CDs of his work
and it's SOOOO depressing. He must have reincarnated into Joy Division or something.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 03:48 PM
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67. there are umpteen billion cds of his work
It's good, and it can be depressing. I like how many of the pieces are multifaceted, so there can be several totally different, but equally legitimate, versions made.
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 04:44 PM
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34. OP used small-c classical
It is kind of irksome that the catchall phrase for European art music is the same word as a specific period within that frame. Especially since the other arts going on in that time period get referred to as Neo-Classical, which in music history is used to describe a particular school of 20th century Modernism (which, at 90+ years old, is not really especially modern anymore).

Anyway, CPE Bach is definitely Classical, so there. J.S. Bach is probably my overall favorite too, but I also like a lot of the 20th century and Medieval/Renaissance/Early Baroque composers as much or better than the Classical/Romantic canon.

Some of my favs are Palestrina, Monteverdi, Stravinksy, Reich, Webern and Dowland. Of the popular 18th-19th century giants, probably Beethoven, Schubert (more for his chamber music and lieder than his orchestral works) and Mendelsohn.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:31 AM
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17. My favorites are from the baroque: JS Bach, GF Handel, A Vivaldi
...and PDQ Bach ;-)
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Mendocino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:51 AM
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19. Edvard Grieg
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:56 AM
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20. That's like asking which was my favorite piece of chocolate.
Impossible to decide!
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 12:47 PM
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21. favorites
Bach
Late Beethoven
Chopin
Schubert
Scriabin
Mahler
Prokofiev
Hindemith
Stravinsky
Bartok
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 02:32 PM
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22. Mozart for all seasons, Telemann/Corelli for baroque faves, Chopin for piano
And Dvorak for poetry. :)
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 02:34 PM
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23. Mozart! n/t
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 02:39 PM
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24. Tchaikovsky, Grieg, Chopin n/t
Edited on Tue Dec-02-08 02:40 PM by ceile
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 02:51 PM
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26. Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Holst, Dvorak, Bartok, Prokofiev, and Barber
There's more - I like some of the works from Brahms, Mozart, Varese, Berlioz, and Sibelius, among others.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 04:07 PM
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29. Chopin, for the piano.
I love to hear Mrs. B play the Grand Valse ...

Bake
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:23 AM
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50. Definitely.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 04:07 PM
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30. Define "Classical."
Since you put Bach in there I'm assuming you just mean orchestral instrument style. In which case, I'm a big fan of Shostakovic and Beethoven. Although both were after the 'classical' period.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 11:00 PM
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41. Beethoven is classical
He was "late" classical, but classical all the same.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 11:22 PM
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43. He was right on the cusp.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 11:48 PM
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45. yep
but he's definitely a large part of Charles Rosen's book "The Classical Style".
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 04:17 PM
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31. what are you counting as "classical"?
Living, I'd go with Christian Wolff. Old, I think probably Dowland, but if you want a "common practice" composer, I guess I'd also go with Bach, maybe Telemann.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 01:52 AM
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55. "Classical music" is
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:32 AM
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61. man, that's a bad article
.... as is stated by wikipedia at the top of the page.

As someone who works within "classical" music, I'm just curious about what people consider it to be. I don't have a good answer. To be honest, I don't even know that what I do is rooted in classical music, but it's been lumped in with it in the halls of academia, so it is, I guess. Labels are weird, but sometimes useful.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:13 PM
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68. Grabbed that one quickly,
and haven't 'studied' for many years. Let's try this: http://www.stmoroky.com/reviews/music/classic.htm
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:25 PM
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71. I just disagree with the fact that "modern" would exist from 1900 - present
It seems to me that even the conception of what music is changed with recording technology, so that any comparison between something that's happening now with anything from the pre record and radio days is failed from the start. Anyway, even ignoring that, I think everything changed around 1950, with John Cage and other experimentalists. That's the tradition that I work in, but it's unclear if it is "experimental music" or "experimental classical music". I think of it as "experimental music", but loads of genres just use "experimental" as an adjective, even when it is no way appropriate, so people will have no idea what I mean if I say "experimental music".
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:49 PM
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72. Add 'orchestral?'
.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:34 PM
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73. I don't think that really works either...
because so many composers throughout history didn't write for orchestra, and especially in the last 50 years. Also, in the last 100 years or so, there has been loads of music played by orchestras that definitely isn't classical music, most egregiously, these things that are (some city) Orchestra plays the music of (some pop band or performer).

Ultimately, what I'm saying is that it doesn't really matter.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 04:17 PM
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32. When I was a wee lad: Beethoven, Brahms, Prokofiev, St, Saens
As a teenager: Bartok, Stravinsky, Ives, Rimsky-Korsakoff, Shostakovich, Vivaldi

As a young man: Brahms, Mahler, Mozart, Bach

Most recently: Schumann, Schubert, Chopin, Tallis, Byrd, "Anonymous" (music of the Middle ages and Renaissance)
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 04:18 PM
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33. Mahler, Bach, Tchaikovsky, Sibelius, and Shostakovich are my favorites.
Nothing can match classical music for its sheer beauty.
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 04:52 PM
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35. No Liszt? Seriously?
Damn.

I'm also a fan of Beethoven.
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:32 PM
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37. OH I am a Liszt lover! But I love classical music period. nt
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 11:53 PM
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47. Well we're putting one together right now.
:P
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 11:54 PM
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48. Ha. Ha. Ha.
:P

:rofl:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:56 PM
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39.  Franz Joseph Haydn,
Felix Mendelssohn, Wolfgang Mozart... it's impossible to have just one favorite!
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 11:42 PM
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44. I love the classics...
but, you have to admit that Rachmaninov rocks :headbang:
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 01:49 AM
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54. You mean
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 01:55 AM
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56. Rachmaninov
Edited on Wed Dec-03-08 02:00 AM by elleng
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 01:58 AM
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57. Rachmaninov had big hands.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 02:23 AM
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58. And a Rhapsody:
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 11:50 PM
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46. Beethoven. Then Mozart. Tchaikovsky, Grieg, Sibelius and Ravel.
That's my top six. Bach, Haydn, Chopin and Brahms round out the top ten.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:56 AM
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51. Couldn't possibly pick one...So for today I'll say Bartok
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 01:47 AM
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53. If I had to pick just one
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 02:37 AM
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59. Vivaldi.
I like pop music.
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dembotoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:16 AM
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62. beatles, stones, the who
do they count?
they are on the classic rock stations...
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 02:18 PM
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64. Henry Purcell (1659-1695)
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 03:20 PM
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65. Bach has been a decomposer since 1750

He began decomposing in July of that year.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 03:24 PM
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66. Buxtehude
I know, I know...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:23 PM
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69. That crazy Russian bastard
what was his name :think:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 08:24 PM
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70. Mendehlson's Scottish Symphony is puuurty good too
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