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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 03:08 PM
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Kevin Smith?
He was much funnier when I was younger. You?
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 03:13 PM
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1. I don't know.
"Fuck you, you fucking fuck" still does it for me.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 03:16 PM
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2. Washed up. He was never that good to begin with.
After his first couple movies, he began to believe his own hype, and his movies became mental masturbation material for hipster douchebags like him. Kevin Smith is one of the biggest hipster douchebags on earth.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 03:21 PM
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3. Good way to put it.
There's still some great lines in Mallrats that I like, such as "Women, always leaving you when you've just had the crap kicked out of you."

But yeah in general.... two meh's up.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 03:23 PM
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6. Correction: FAUX hipster.
I kind of like him (he can be brilliant in writing dialogue), but he's definitely a douchebag with an over-inflated sense of self importance.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 05:41 PM
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16. He can be brilliant in writing dialog, but it's all the same and it gets repetitive.
He's got no depth or variation. He was good for a few movies, then it gets stale and rancid.
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 03:41 PM
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13. I've got to agree with this.
Although I will say, as I just did in a response to the OP, that I really liked Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 11:12 AM
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53. I agree with you 100%.
Hipster douchebag is the perfect description.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 03:22 PM
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4. Agreed.
Have you seen An Evening with Kevin Smith and the sequels? I haven't seen the sequels, but I thought Evening was funnier than most of his movies, save for Clerks.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 03:23 PM
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5. I thought Clerks II was pretty funny.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 03:25 PM
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7. Yes, I was much funnier when you were younger too.
Sadly I peaked out about the same time you got your ear pierced.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 03:31 PM
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8. I agree and as big of a religion basher as I am I didn't even like
Dogma. I thought Clerks, the first one, was funny the first time I saw it in the 90's but I might not now. I am pretty hard on comedies in general anyway.
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 03:35 PM
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9. I was never funny.
:shrug:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 03:35 PM
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10. I don't see any vision in his work
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 03:37 PM
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11. he's funny whenever i'm in a certain mood
whenever i'm in a snarky, smartass, cynical, and sarcastic mood(which is often) then his stuff is funny. it's never "laugh out loud" funny though.. except for jay and silent bob.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 05:42 PM
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17. bah, it's not even that funny then.
he sets off my 'douche' dar too much.
i like dogma because there was some sincerity there that made it not a total piece of stinking crap.
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 06:06 PM
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18. different strokes for different folks
personally, i know enough guys like jay(of course he's the extreme version).. so that character cracks me up.

in general, i like smith's movies. are they my favorite movies in the world? no. are they enjoyable? yes.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 06:09 PM
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19. no. not different strokes. you are simply wrong.
you shall eventually realize that.
:hi:
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 06:57 PM
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22. there is no right and wrong
only right and left.. duh :P
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 07:46 PM
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27. then i'm right and you are left.
:P
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 08:02 PM
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32. i'm telling the mods!
you're going to be banned :P
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 08:12 PM
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34. not if i tell them first, freeper!
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 08:36 PM
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37. dude.. nobody would believe you
psh :P
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 11:34 PM
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42. i see how it is.
:eyes:
this is WAR.
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 02:43 AM
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45. typical war-loving freeper
:eyes:

:rofl:
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 03:40 PM
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12. He's got 84 yards and a score as of this writing. Go, Lions!
I hate the Colts. HATE 'em.

(In answer to what you actually meant, I'll go with the respondent who said "never that good to begin with" or whatever words to that effect, although I really did enjoy Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back ).
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 03:46 PM
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14. That's because films were still silent back then.
Actually, I agree with you. He hasn't been funny since "Clerks", although I enjoyed a small portion of the Clerks II dialogue.


He'll never suck as much as Richard Linklater, though. It's just not possible.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 04:56 PM
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15. I beg to differ.
One word: "Dogma"

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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 06:45 PM
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21. Agree
99% will never make a movie that funny and on-target.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 08:17 PM
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36. I love "Dogma"
It's one of the few movies I can watch over and over.

Absolutely wonderful. And, of course, there's George Carlin................
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 11:33 PM
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41. It's one of my go-to movies that never gets old
Another one is The Nightmare Before Christmas. Two completely different movies, but both wonderful in their own way.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 06:12 PM
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20. He shot his wad w/ Clerks
Which wasn't that great a film to begin with, except for a few spots of dialog.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 06:58 PM
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23. He's awesome
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 07:25 PM
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24. I never found him that funny in the first place.
Juvenile, comic fanboy humor. The hipsters love him, but I never got the appeal. The Jay and Silent Bob characters were possibly the most irritating, unfunny characters in all of movie history.

Clerks (the first one) I guess deserves a little credit but the rest is entirely skipable.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 07:26 PM
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25. Dogma is still and always will be gold.
Unless you totally suck.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 07:35 PM
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26. Dogma sucked...what do you call it?....
...oh yeah, donkey balls. Dogma sucked donkey balls.

Seriously, a greater 90-something minutes of my life had never been more wasted than the time I watched Dogma. It was just a waste of a vehicle for big name A-list stars to put their face out without accomplishing anything worthwhile in terms of a story.

Yet some people claim it to be enlightening. I actually once heard someone that they would "never set foot in a church again" after they watched Dogma. Now, I'll admit, there are more than one reason as to why one may become disillusioned with organized religion. A shitty Kevin Smith crapfest, however, is not one of them.

Okay, I'll admit the Buddy Jesus thing did make me chuckle a bit.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 07:54 PM
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29. Why would Dogma make you never want to set foot in a church again?
Are people that easily swayed and stupid?
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 07:58 PM
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31. Yes.
I haven't stepped foot in a convenience store since I first saw Clerks back in the 90s!

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stewartcolbert08 Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 08:21 AM
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48. Your nuts dude
Dogma was awesome! You must have missed the point or something.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 09:27 AM
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49. Kevin Smith should stick to the subject of convenience stores.
Comic fanboy/hipster humor and God? Please. It was Kevin Smith saying, "Oh, look at me! I can be deep, too! But I'll throw in a shit monster just to let people know I'm still not afraid to be juvenile."

And all the useless cameo appearances by different celebrities was just annoying. Ohhhh--Alanis Morissette is God. How pretentiously edgy. :eyes: Maybe they should have gotten Joan Osbourne instead, and she could have sung "One of Us".

The only actor in that movie who did a decent job I think was Jason Lee. To be honest, I forgot the purpose of his character but he at least was interesting. The rest was just an annoying celebrites on parade who just wanted to be in a Kevin Smith movie just beecause.
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stewartcolbert08 Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 09:40 AM
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51. LOL
Thats your point of view, what i was thinking of is that the movie portrayed that just because you organized religious savior of the day says something happened a certain way doesn't mean it did, it was all a "good idea" blown totally out of proportion by raging lunatics with an agenda, and how do you know there are no poop monsters!!!
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 07:51 PM
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28. agreed
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 07:56 PM
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30. Loved Clerks, downhill from there
loves his own voice. Worst Comic-Con discussion leader ever. SHUT THE FUCK UP
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 08:05 PM
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33. I love him.
:) I love big men.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 08:14 PM
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35. As long as you don't try to take him too seriously, he's fun.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 08:38 PM
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38. Nobody could possibly take Kevin Smith any more seriously than Kevin Smith already does.
That's why I can't stand him.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 09:47 PM
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39. And see, right there, by bothering to care about what he thinks
you're taking him too seriously. :P
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 10:52 PM
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40. I don't care what he thinks.
I care that he makes his wanking material into movies and expects us to watch it.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:12 PM
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55. He expects his fans to watch it.
I don't think you fall into that category.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 11:36 PM
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44. Yeah exactly. His movies are just dumb fun, nothing more.
Dogma is one of my all time favorites, and so is Clerks.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 11:35 PM
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43. I'm a big Smith fan.
I thought "Zack And Miri Make A Porno" was fucking hilarious.
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 03:05 AM
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46. this thread needs some music
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stewartcolbert08 Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 08:19 AM
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47. He has gone soft
in his adult life! He is a dad and a husband now....another one bites the dust. I LOVE all of his old stuff though. Clerks was the best!
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 09:30 AM
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50. The older I get, the funnier I find his body of work...
The older I get, the funnier I find his body of work...
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 09:41 AM
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52. Mostly good
I thought Zach and Miri was hilarious, but to be fair, I think much of that was Seth Rogan.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 11:16 AM
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54. He's both hotter and more talented than Jennifer Aniston.
That's all I have to say about that. :P
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