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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 12:54 AM
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Do You Ever Cry Yourself To Sleep?
and admit it?

I do sometimes. My mood is more stable now, but there are some things that I have a hard time believing and dwelling on them does that to me.

Don't know why I'm posting this...

Not asking for sympathy, I'm not crying now.

Crying is not a bad thing unless it is out of control and a person feels they have lost control of the ability to cry or not cry.

It can be cleansing...

for me it stops up my head

good night :hug:

here's to better days... they have to be here and there and these aren't so bad unless I focus on the bad.

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 01:01 AM
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1. My dear SPKrazy...
Not usually...

Sometimes I feel a little sad when I go to bed, but I suspect that's because I'm tired and all the world's problems are ganging up on me...

Crying can indeed be a good thing!

I like this quote on it:

There is a sacredness in tears.
They are not the mark of weakness,
But of power.
They speak more eloquently than 10,000 tongues.
They are the messengers of overwhelming grief,
of deep contrition, and of unspeakable love.


Washington Irving said it...

:hug:

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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 01:03 AM
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2. Crying is theraputic. What is it that has made you cry, SPKrazy?
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 03:18 PM
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21. the loss of my dreams
the loss of my mother

the loss of relationships

the loss of my marriage

the loss of others in my life

the fact that major depression has ruled my life in ways off and on for years

today I may cry for my cousin who blew her fucking brains out yesterday morning and for her daughter who found her.

I may cry for my aunt, the mother of my cousin, who came home from the hospital yesterday after that and is dying of pancreatic cancer, <6 mos given for her to live... For the hope that was dashed from her by a surgeon who thought he could save her when her oncologist had already said it was hopeless... for my dad who has lost his wife of 50 years, his favorite sister, and now his niece, and soon another sister....

I will cry for my friends who are hurting, and for the sadness I have at not being able to be there physically for them...

I will cry for love that will live but not in the way I dream of it...

I will cry for all these things

and I will dust myself off, be thankful that I'm alive, that I have food, a job, a place to live, a wonderful son, life, a chance to be happy if I choose so, and that I'm in a place where no matter how much I complain about it, is still a free country or I couldn't write the things I write.


that's what I cry about...
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 01:01 AM
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55. "be happy if I choose so"
I guess it is a choice.

I am so sorry for your troubles.

I'm no stranger to depression, and maybe the fact that I drink alot has something to do with my attitude toward depression.

For a while in my teens it seemed everything was perfect.

I've dealt with, or not dealt with, so many deaths of family members. Mom, dad, grandparents who were like angels to me - wonderful pets. And I've suffered the long destruction of friendships - what the hell happened? And I know very little true happiness at this point. And alcohol does soothe me. So I don't feel the pain as much.

I know none of this compares to the trials you've just listed. But my friend, what can you do but hang on? And if you can hang on, then you must ask yourself, why carry on in this fashion, a life of pain and regret?

You have it right in that it is what you choose.

You are here. Your son is here.

Don't live life swimming in a pool of regret and sadness.

It is a choice.

And if you can't make that choice today, it will still be there tomorrow.

Mourn your losses, but come to terms with them, and remember that you only have this one life to live, as far as we know. You have to open your eyes and look around and see the misery you have chosen to dwell in, and pick yourself up and move yourself toward that dim sunlight. Choose to do that. This is your life, right now, today. Nothing is gained from standing here and crying about it all. Move on.

I hope it doesn't sound hard of me to say this.

But you are in control. Assume that control.

Time to go on living your life.
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 01:04 AM
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3. I did. For about 2 years after my son died.
I held together pretty well at work, but after I left ...

I could not even grocery shop. He was always my helper. I had to pick up a few things at a time, and mostly went out for dinner.
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 11:50 AM
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16.  to lose a son
will change your life forever , Lil Missy. I am sorry that you have suffered such a devastating loss.

My youngest son died in 1988 . When say that I know how you feel , I really do.

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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:23 PM
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17. My sincere condolences for your loss as well. It does change you forever.
:hug:
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:25 PM
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19. Jesus. I didn't know.
:hug:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 03:20 PM
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23. And Lil Missy, I Am Sorry For Your Loss
I can only imagine the pain there :hug:

sorry
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 01:22 AM
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4. Every fucking night
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 03:19 PM
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22. I'm sorry, that is a painful place to be
:hug: I hope things will be better for you soon
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bird gerhl Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 02:21 AM
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5. Sometimes I look in the mirror and my beauty overwhelms me.
I just sob uncontrollably. For ten or fifteen minutes. That's how pretty I am.
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 02:28 AM
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6. That sounds sarcastic.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 03:21 PM
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25. meh, there will always be people
who think the computer is just like a typewriter and that there aren't other people they are communicating with.

fuck 'em, life is more than sarcastic people's opinions, much more.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 03:20 PM
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24. you should post a pic
so I can cry with you
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Jetboy Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 12:25 AM
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53. Your lack of beauty overwelms me. What you just did was very
ugly IMO.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 02:57 AM
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7. I have done that more times than I can count, dear brother.
Not for awhile now, but there have been periods in my life where I cried myself to sleep several nights in a row.

I'm so sorry you are going through a tough time.

Many sister hugs to you, my bro. :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 03:23 PM
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26. and my sister
I am sorry you or anyone has that, it is the price of humanity I suppose, it is not the one that I relish.

but the good things are there too. I've been through tougher times than this!

:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 03:03 AM
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8. Only when I was still working, usually Sunday nights...
Edited on Wed Apr-08-09 03:18 AM by old mark
My wife has Hep C, and was having periodic hallucinations, even went into coma 5 times over a few years. I was told several times she would never recover, in fact was told she would not live more than 5 years.
At the same time, I was being treated terribly by my employers and co workers for taking time off on the family leave act, harrassed, threatened with disciplinary action, termination, etc.
At one point, I felt I would never have any hapiness in my future life at all, and that nothing good would ever happen to me again.

I was wrong.
Events changed so that I was able to retire early, and my wife's health began to improve, to the point where as of yesterday, her liver function is back to normal, her health and happiness have greatly improved, and I am having a great time as a retired old fart, even thugh with much less money than I had planned.

All my life, it seems I have always done things wrong, but things turned out well in different ways than I expected.....


mark
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 03:24 PM
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27. I'm glad her health is improving and that you are able to retire
and I relate well to the shit at work.

:hug:
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 03:28 AM
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9. To sleep? No.
But when I woke up and realized he really was dead, then I'd cry..................
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 03:24 PM
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28. Yes, I imagine that is true
:hug: sorry for your loss
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Sky Masterson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 04:33 AM
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10. Nope.
Never have.
Even during my worst times.
Crying serves little purpose for me anymore.(I still do it once in awhile I'm only human)
Crying doesn't solve anything in the end.
It doesn't bring anyone back or breathe life into a departed soul.
It is about as profitable as praying(something I think is even more useless).
I also think that I have come to the conclusion that wallering in my own self pity is down right pathetic and nobody should have the power to make me do that.
So..
That's all I have to say about that.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 03:25 PM
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29. who said anything about self pity
that's your interpretation dude

I asked if people cried themselves to sleep

no crying doesn't bring anyone back or change external things, but it does cleanse and change internal things
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Sky Masterson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 04:58 PM
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39. "that's your interpretation dude"
Of course it is.
It's my own personal feelings about the productivity of crying.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 09:27 PM
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41. well dude
you don't know jack except that you just got on my ignore list frank
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Sky Masterson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 04:14 AM
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56. Everybody deals with pain in their own way.
Edited on Fri Apr-10-09 04:29 AM by Sky Masterson
Some by holding it in,some by letting it out,some by facing it and some by ignoring it.
Why you took my response as a personal attack says more about you than me.
Life is hard.People WILL hurt you,People WILL die.Bad things WILL happen.
But Guess what..We survive.We pick ourselves up and dust ourselves off because we have to.
My or your personal problems are petty compared to many out there facing real hardships.
so..
Forgive me for responding to your thread. It won't happen again.
I didn't know answering a question in my own way using my own observations and personal experiences was wrong.
As for the ignore thing.I don't care.Ignore away.
I quit taking this place serious years ago.
And I've been much happier doing so.You should give it a try.
That's just me being "Frank" Jack.

Edited to Add..I'm sorry about your cousin. It is truly a sad thing.I hope her family finds peace.


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sammythecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 11:44 PM
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51. Are you aiming to become a cyborg or something?
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Sky Masterson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 04:17 AM
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57. No.
I cried enough in my time.
It's no fun.
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raptor_rider Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 07:39 AM
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11. For a while there, yeah
Had a 6 month old son, was 4 months pregnant and my 9 year old daughter at the time was diagnosed Type 1 diabetic. It was rough times. My youngest was born 6 weeks early and had to stay in the hospital for almost a week. Spent that time at the hospital, away from my family.
Things are getting better now. We are still having fun honing in on my daughter's blood glucose numbers. The boys are a little older. The youngest will be 2 on April 15th.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 03:26 PM
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30. I'm glad things are better...
hard times bring on pain, and crying is a release valve for that...

I hate doing it

it still happens

:hug:

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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 08:03 AM
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12. Yes. Many times. Deep emotional sadness or loss triggers
tears in me very easily.

It has been helpful to me to release the emotion.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 03:27 PM
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31. When it releases it is good
when it doesn't and just makes one feel out of control, then it isn't good.
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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 08:12 AM
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13. I have
:hug:

and I wake up with my eyes puffed up shut.....

I look like Rocky after a fight

:hi:


lost
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 03:28 PM
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32. I know you have
and I know that your eyes might look like that sometimes, but that you are a gentle soul

:hug:
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 11:46 AM
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14. tears are theraputic
Edited on Wed Apr-08-09 11:51 AM by JitterbugPerfume
sometimes I cry for my son , mom , daddy, aunts uncles , friends who have died, and sometimes I cry just because.

I don't consider it a sign of weakness.

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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 03:28 PM
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33. no I don't either
no weakness

and me too
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 11:49 AM
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15. I've done it many many times
Not so much of late.

:hug:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 03:29 PM
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34. I'm glad that things have been better for you
:hug:
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:25 PM
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18. Most weekend nights.
Or I cry, then work to get calm, then fall asleep. You're right, it is cleansing. :hug:

Don't do it tonight okay?
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 03:30 PM
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35. didn't do it last night
could have easily

today the reality of what happened to my cousin and my aunt is setting in

:hug:
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:38 PM
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20. I can't sleep when I cry - my nose gets all stuffed up
But there have been times I've cried until I COULDN'T sleep.

Crying scares me. People say it can be cleansing and I believe it but I am always afraid that if I open one door, they will all open.


So I avoid crying. Probably terribly unhealthy.


My best to you, because I know what you mean. :hug:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 03:31 PM
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36. I went for several years without shedding a tear
and I told myself and still believe it was because I can't stand the feeling of being all stopped up, and that didn't feel cleansing.

I don't cry often enough probably, and other times it feels like I'm losing control, but I always stop.

:hug:
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 04:38 PM
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37. I Can't
When I cry, my sinuses fill up and I get a pounding headache. Then I can't sleep.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:20 PM
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42. that sucks
me too dammit
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 04:47 PM
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38. not necessarily to sleep, but i cry myself exhausted
which can be hard when i'm trying to keep quiet so no one else in the house hears me, but i usually feel better, even if i've snotted and drooled all over my pillows. i'm a big time crier, but crying is sometimes the only comfort i can give myself.

i'm sorry you're dealing with so much pain right now, my friend. :hug:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:21 PM
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43. its fine
I'm fine

:hug:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 05:09 PM
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40. I used to, many a nights.
This was years ago. Not anymore. :hug:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:22 PM
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44. I spent years not crying
now it is not something that I can avoid.

and it does help

:hug:
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:23 PM
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45. I have
Honestly, I don't like crying. Not sure why. I think I don't like the feeling of losing "control", if that makes sense. I always have the fear that if I let it out, I won't be able to stop.

:shrug:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:29 PM
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46. I know that feeling
everyone stops

it isn't good to feel out of control

it does however serve a purpose and crying is not just self pity as some have stated in this thread

:hug:
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:33 PM
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47. I'm sorry to read about your cousin
:hug:

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:45 PM
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48. I did cry alot for years. I can't anymore though. And I don't like it.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:47 PM
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49. Yes, I do. We wouldn't have been given the gift of tears if it wasn't necessary to let them out.
Whatever is your pain, sweetie, I'm so sorry. Let it out and I hope you can sleep more peacefully for the tears shed. Hug:
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 10:59 PM
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50. Yes I do, many nights and sometimes during the day.
Here's to better days, they're coming.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 12:17 AM
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52. Yes.
I can't understand people who think it's voluntary. I have very little control over it. Maybe in the long run that's a good thing.

:hug: :hug:
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 12:42 AM
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54. Not very often, but yes
About once a year events will come up that cause that for a few days.
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