L O S T

[graywarrior]

Some Like it Hoth

Suspicions about a possible breach intensify after Ben is taken from the infirmary, and a reluctant Miles is forced to work with Hurley.

[redqueen]

1. I wish they were still showing the encore episodes

with all the extra info in the pop up things.

It's getting even more confusing... something I didn't think was possible.

[Duer 157099]

2. I watched a movie last night that had two Losties in it

Dan and the Dharma guy who made that videotape from the early episodes (don't know what his name is, but he's been in recent episodes too)

It was a Christian Bale war movie, forgot the name

I know, so what. It's just weird when I see 2 or more actors from a show doing other things together

[question everything]

8. Have you noticed that "Michael" now stars in a new ABC program

that comes right after Lost?

[Duer 157099]

10. No, I don't generally watch many network shows

However I did remember Michael from his way-back "Oz" years!

Which reminds me, another Oz alumnus was also on Lost, but I forgot his name (the guy who had all those heroin statues in the plane)

[Sheets of Easter]

23. Mr. Eko, aka Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje

Okay, I admit to having googled his real name. :)

[question everything]

34. Can't miss it. The promos for this show have been advertised

on Lost for several months now.

That is, if you watch the show when it is being broadcast..

[Scout]

12. i think Walt is on "Saving Grace" on TNT

on Monday nights ... love that show!

[Scout]

11. Rescue Dawn?

about Dieter Dengler's escape from POW camp?

[Duer 157099]

30. Yes! That was it!

I've now seen Bale in at least 3 films where he essentially plays the same character. I used to think it was good acting. Now I'm wondering...

[Wetzelbill]

40. Rescue Dawn

How is that?

[LanternWaste]

3. Hurley-centric episodes: my favorites.

Hurley-centric episodes: my favorites.

I don;t know what it is about him, but he's simply the coolest guy I can think of. His is the prefect intersection between science and faith on the island, had the hottest (and smartest) woman as his gal-pal, hates his riches, feels guilty about his own indulgences (which compared to those of the rest of the Losties, is not too much to begin with), and to top it off, he totally kicked Sawyer's butt.





Look, I don't know about you, but things have really sucked for me lately, and I could really use a victory. So let's get one, dude! Let's get this car started. Let's look death in the face and say: "Whatever, man!"

[global1]

5. I Still Want To Know What He Brought Back To The Island In The Guitar Case?......

Is it really a guitar or was it food?

[graywarrior]

6. ABC has a Hurley interview at this link

You just need to sit through the 15 second ad
http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index?pn=index

[LanternWaste]

7. Very cool! Thanks GW

Very cool! Thanks GW. Fifty-eight minutes left before.... :)

Time to get the wings and root-beer ready!

[Goblinmonger]

15. Miles-centric

Off to a good start at the first break, though.

"I'm in the circle of trust."

[Yavin4]

33. I Love Hurley Because He's A Unique TV Character

I don't know of any other show with an actor like him. He has this terrific personality that melts through the screen.

He's a larger version of John Belushi.

[Fleshdancer]

4. link to four sneak peeks for anyone interested:

http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2009/04/episode-513-some-like-it-hoth-sneak.html

[Kajsa]

9. I got answers to my two main questions

last week, so let's see what is revealed tonight.

It is hyped as very BIG.

We shall see.

[hibbing]

22. what questions?

Hi,
Just curious as to what two questions you had answered?

Peace

[Kajsa]

29. Sorry- ( didn't mean to do that)

I posted this on last week's LOST thread.

Is Ben alive and on the island?
Is Locke alive and on the island?

they both appeared deceased the week before.

Answer to both,

Yes,yes and Yes.yes.

:)

[graywarrior]

13. 15 minutes

[deucemagnet]

14. OK, so what really happened?

Fookin' awesome! :woohoo:

[Goblinmonger]

16. I like Miles more every episode.

He seems like a guy I would hang out with.

[Goblinmonger]

17. "You're just jealous my power's better than yours."

:rofl:

[Wetzelbill]

41. Hurley is awesome

I like how he's writing the Star Wars sequel from memory......with improvements. lol

[graywarrior]

18. Is this the first episode where someone actually sees themselves as a kid?

And where in hell was Faraday all this time?

[Goblinmonger]

20. We don't know if he makes the final jump

do we? He "stays" with Charlotte...or where Charlotte was, anyway. I bet he has a couple stories to tell for sure.

[darkstar]

21. I think...

Love that complexification of things.

I'm also digging the Miles/Hurley interactions as of late...fun...

P.S. Hope you're feeling better.

:hi:

[graywarrior]

24. I am feeling better, thank you.

Prilosec works wonders. And yeak on the Miles/Hurley stuff.

[question everything]

35. What was amazing was that Faraday had no problem

recognizing Miles, even though he supposedly first met him 30 years later.

[Fleshdancer]

19. Wow! I lot of good stuff tonight

We find out more on Miles' gift, discover how he was recruited, the "what lies in the shadow of the statue" pops up again, Sawyer gets busted, Miles finds out daddy loved him, we see the numbers, the hatch being built, and Daniel.

Now I'm going to have to digest everything I just watched. I wonder if the "shadow statue" is Ben's team or a different group entirely. OR, it is Ben's team that turns out to be a third group making it a war between Widmore, Ben, and now Locke. I have no idea.

[question everything]

36. Any idea who were the two dudes who grabbed Miles

trying to convince him not to join the team?

And, can you please remind me when we've heard the "what lies in the shadow of the statue" phrase before?

[Fleshdancer]

39. One of the guys who grabbed Miles is now on the island....

he's with Ilana (the bounty hunter who arrested Sayid and put him on the plane from L.A. to Guam). Ilana asked Frank Lapidus (the pilot) "what lies in the shadow of the statue" when Frank approached her and since he didn't know the answer, she knocked him out and ordered her friend (guy from the van) to take Frank with them.

[question everything]

46. Thanks. Last week I wondered who were the two guys with Ilana

and whether they were on the plane or already on the island.

Interesting parallel story. Clearly there is more to Ilana than just taking Sayid back to Guam for a murder he committed.

[Pacifist Patriot]

58. I really wish I had a better memory to track all this. I totally suck at following LOST

despite the addiction.

[hibbing]

25. Sun

Hi,
Well, that certainly was an interesting episode. I'll have to watch it again online to fully digest it. On a side note, I thought the makeup people did a great job aging Sun at the start of the episode, right when I saw her I said to myself I wonder how old the kid is, then he pops on screen.

Another new character introduced even though he was dead?

Why would Sun be looking to rent a little apartment, I thought she had a substantial amount of money?

Peace

[Sheets of Easter]

26. Um, that wasn't Sun. That was Miles' mom.

[Fleshdancer]

27. That wasn't Sun....

She was Miles' mom and she was married to Marvin Candle.

[hibbing]

28. well poo!

Hi,
Thanks for that info! Geesh, not sure what the heck I was thinking. So *another* new character introduced? Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Glad you are feeling better Gray.

Peace

[Wetzelbill]

42. it looked like her a bit

I thought so at first too.

[Wetzelbill]

31. It's good to know a little about Miles.

[underpants]

32. Its all a dream

Here is the new theory my wife and I are working on

Hurley
everything on the island is connected to Hurley
the hatch numbers were his lottery numbers
Miles is his story lived vicariously
He wasn't at the church when Mrs. Hawkings explained it all to them. Hurley, who is supposedly on the run for murder, just shows up and flies out of LAX--???

The book that Desmond was reading when we first saw him in the hatch was about a Civil War soldier about to be hung from a bridge. In the book (you can find the name of at lostpedia I am sure) the soldier sees the rope break and he escapes and has a grand adventure...until the end of the book when his neck snaps from the hanging-it was just a flash in his brain. This could all be a flash just before Hurley dies in the crash or a psychotic vision.

Hmmmmmmm

[question everything]

37. I think that Hurley was cleared

I kinda remember someone - Ben? - saying something about that.

[Sheets of Easter]

43. If that does turn out to be the ending,

I will personally show up on the doorsteps on Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, and punch both of them in the mouth.

I don't think it's going to go down with some big twist. Everything that is happening is definitely real. TPTB have already stated that the series won't end like St. Elsewhere, and it's definitely not Purgatory.

[Withywindle]

44. The Occurence at Owl Creek Bridge by Ambrose Bierce

Haunting story. Bierce was actually a reporter in the Civil War.

I have to say, I hope your theory's not correct. I feel cheated by "it was all a dream" type endings. I think Bierce was probably the last person in the world to be able to get away with that without eyerolls.

[underpants]

45. Right, that's the book

thanks

I do think it is something simple. One line.

I latched onto the magnets thing and my wife and her friend hate having a conversation with me because at some point the answer to one of my questions is... MAGNETS :rofl:

I think it is either the current tease of Egyptians (btw Hurley was drawing hieroglyphics earlier in the show-first year I think) or it is Biblical in some way.

[Goblinmonger]

50. It's actually just a short story.

The french did a great film of it that was shortened by about 7 minutes and made into a Twilight Zone episode. The original film is worth 30 minutes of your time. So is the short story.

[Goblinmonger]

51. That would suck ass

as much as the purgatory ending would suck ass. The writers are better than that. Owl Creek Bridge was just a distraction. Just like The Third Policeman that was referenced which is a novel about a guy who is dead and relives the same day over and over.

If it ends with it being Hurley's dream, I'll join the guy above to punch the creators in the mouth.

[LanternWaste]

53. Abrams and Lindleloff have emphatically stated...

Abrams and Lindleloff have emphatically stated that the show is not premised on either a dream/fantasy or a snow-globe scenario.

[Pacifist Patriot]

55. Whew! Glad to hear that because I was in the Hurley's mental world camp myself.

[Wetzelbill]

38. oh wow

as usual. I like Faraday's character too.

[Pacifist Patriot]

57. Someone needs to remind me how he got off the island to return to it in 1977.

Do I have a horrible memory (I actually already know the affirmative answer to that) or is this something the entire audience does not know yet?

[Wetzelbill]

59. I don't think we know yet

He was there in the 70s, because he sees a girl who he believed to be Charlotte when she was little. He also is seen in parts of the Dharma Initiative. I'm not sure how he goes from Charlotte's death, to seeing the young Charlotte in the 70s to then arriving on the island as part of Dharma like he did last night. So I think we'll be finding out.

[Fleshdancer]

61. I end up visiting lostpedia after every episode

Without lostpedia, I wouldn't be able to keep up.

Daniel Faraday with DHARMA:

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Faraday

Daniel, along with Sawyer, Juliet, Jin, and Miles, timetraveled to 1974 when Locke moved the frozen wheel. When the rest of the group found Daniel, he was still crying over Charlotte's death, also telling them her body had not travelled with them during the flash. The group were captured by the DHARMA Initiative. While being held, Daniel saw a young girl who he believed was Charlotte. Pretending to be victims of a shipwreck, they all integrated themselves into the DHARMA Initiative. ("LaFleur")

Charlotte suggested that, when she was on the Island as a child, Daniel told her to leave the Island and never return, or else she would die. ("This Place Is Death")

Later, Sawyer told Jack that Daniel was no longer on the Island. ("Namaste")

"Long time, no see." ("Some Like It Hoth")Under unknown circumstances Daniel began working as a scientist for DHARMA, off-Island in Ann Arbor. He returned to the Island in 1977 via the submarine, and upon seeing Miles, said "Long time, no see." ("Some Like It Hoth") At an unknown time Daniel was seen down the Orchid in a construction workers outfit, he passed Pierre Chang in an underground shaft there. ("Because You Left")

:)

[Tabasco_Dave]

47. They played, Love Will Keep Us Together

The Show is ruined now I won't be able to get that song out of my head for a week. :argh:

[hibbing]

48. Sun Part II

Hi,
Is there any way Sun *could* be the mother of Miles?? I know this seems crazy, but this show has so screwed up my brain and what I think I see and don't see and whatever else.
There certainly was a lot of Miles in that episode, as a little boy, as a teen?, and as the Miles in 1977? Ugh, my brain hurts.

Where was Mile's mother from? When she meet his father? Was she ever part of the Dharma project? Grrrrrrrrrr....sorry.

Carry on and peace.

[Pacifist Patriot]

56. I wondered about that too, but they would have to jump through goodness knows...

how many hoops to pull that off. The woman playing Miles' mother could be an older Sun, but for the life of me I cannot figure out how she could be married to Dr. Chang in 1977 with Kim right there. Miles did say he saw his mother behind him in line at the cafeteria. Wouldn't that mean that Sun and Kim would see each other since Kim is there too? On the other hand, I did find it strange that they never showed the woman when Dr. Chang handed off the baby to her towards the end. It's not like these producers/writers couldn't figure out a way that I would find passably plausible. They've done it to me before.

[MilesColtrane]

49. Next week's another clip show?

SONOFABITCH!

[underpants]

52. A "unique" look at the Survivors stories. Two week any "special" AND a show

[hatredisnotavalue]

54. Is it possible that the dead guy in the back of the van is Hurley?

If Miles can see himself as a child, is it possible that Hurley can see himself dead?

[Mollis]

60. I thought it looked like him at first

but I don't think he could have died in 77 and still be there.
And...did Miles get his name? Or he would have noticed that his name was Hugo, too.

[hibbing]

62. the shadow knows

Hi,
Boy, I really do need to watch it more carefully during the original airing.

Do you know what lies in the shadow of the statue?

Any thoughts on that anyone?

Peace

[MilesColtrane]

63. A hydrogen bomb.