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1gobluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:01 AM
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I wish student employees would realize a job is a responsibility
And wouldn't call in because they have to study...or have a hangover...or didn't sleep well...or it's a nice day and they want to hang with their friends. I call them on it but none of my co-workers do. Sigh.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:30 AM
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1. I take it you're a work-study supervisor?
Edited on Wed Apr-22-09 08:31 AM by Chan790
I used to hate that because I was a work-study who was tasked with supervising other work-study student employees. (I was a student-manager of facilities for student-activities and had a staff of proctors, desk-attendants, ticket-office clerks, concessions staff, etc. under me.)

Talk about caught in the middle. I was often in the same classes and the same parties as my underlings and had the same friends...so I knew I was being blown-off. I often also had to study, was also hungover or also wanted to be outside with my friends on a nice day...and couldn't because I was the one required to cover their shifts if they bailed and other coverage could not be obtained.

Fire someone who their cohorts view as invincible...it works wonders to make student-employees fall in line.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:36 AM
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2. Most 18-21 year olds
are not to be relied upon.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:44 AM
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3. Oh they can be...
you can always rely on them to bail out on work on the first nice day of the year, during the Super Bowl or the deciding game of the first World Series won by the local team in 80 years (not that I'm bitter about missing the Red Sox winning the World Series or anything. :eyes:), during any big campus event or any weekend night whatsoever.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:47 AM
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4. That sucks
it really does.
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dugaresa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:22 AM
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5. many light years ago, i fired a friend because she kept calling off work
i was a student supervisor at a lab on large university campus. this friend needed a job, and i was able to get her into our lab. now i scheduled folks for work and everyone was happy but the folks she had to relieve. you see her hangovers and yammering between classes instead of getting to the lab on time were causing other folks to be late for class.

i gave her 2 warnings and fired her on the third and we remained friends. she finally realized that she didn't want to work and that she could beg her parents for more money so she could keep her erratic schedule.
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:40 AM
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6. I had to deal with teen employees when I was a store manager.
They can be so worthless sometimes. Sometimes I would fire 5 or 6 kids a week for being totally undependable and stupid. It didnt help that I got stuck with a store that for some reason only teenagers applied to work at.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:33 AM
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7. I always went to mine - I sorely needed the money!

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:43 AM
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8. For many, that is the case. For some, there may be legitimate issues.
I keep my employer informed on such issues, even with doctor's notes and I am getting various testing done so I can get on with things and not be as blighted by various ailments. Maybe I'm lucky people (or most of them) don't think I'm abusing the system. I'm not... and I know a coworker who has similar issues, though to try to convince her to see Doctor X or Specialist Y is sadly another matter. :( I wish she would; she's a good person who's suffered a lot... :(

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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:16 PM
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9. The worst ones are the jocks.
They know they're practically 'made men' and if you fire them they'll just have Da Coach get them hooked up someplace else more in tune with their demanding lifestyles.

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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:38 PM
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10. That's strange because athletes often have the hardest schedules
what with practicing everyday.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:45 PM
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13. Students in a lot of disciplines practice every day.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:47 PM
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14. that's true
the band has to practice for the games also.

:rofl: :hide:

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:50 PM
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16. And the students in non-athletic disciplines are expected to do everything,
while the precious O Most Holy Jocks have the bar (the non-athletic one) set so low for them that it actually just rests on the floor where they can more easily crawl over it in a drunken stupor after a night of heavy partying and raping and beating up teh gays.

Violinist: "Sorry I'm late, we had an orchestra rehearsal and the conductor got all crazy angry and wouldn't let us leave and held us an extra hour!"

Boss: "So? You're fired."

versus

Athlete: "Sorry I'm late, we had practice today and Coach got all crazy angry and wouldn't let us leave and held us an extra hour!"

Boss: "God bless you! Don't worry about it. Would you like to start your shift with a break, to get rested up? Geez, I'm sorry I scheduled you so close to practice time like this. What hours would be more convenient for you?"

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:43 PM
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11. Here's how they learn: you fire them.
Simple but elegant solution.

Their next employer will appreciate that someone taught them earlier about what "having a job" means.


"Oh, dude, man, like, wow, like I'm so totally sad this job is somehow dragging you down or interfering with your bong hits, like, totally, way dude, right? You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? Like, totally. So don't bother coming back. You're fired. I'll send your last check in the mail. If you have a brain, you'll hopefully learn something before your next job."
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:48 PM
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15. Are you Rabrrrrr Foreman?
:hide:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:51 PM
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17. I'm Rabrrrrrr "Have expectations of people who work for/around me" um,,,, Halmesley.
:P

Seriously, though, it does no one any good to let slacking, incompetence, and disregard for the job go unaddressed and unpunished.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:43 PM
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12. How much are they being paid?
Seriously.

I was nearly always responsible, with one exception. I had a job in grad school at a hotel that kept me up all night and paid $4.25/hr. I quit without any notice. They had me doing bookkeeping or something. I never ever did that before, but at $4.25/hr and not sleeping --forget it.

On the other hand, working through school at a hospital at $13/hr (early 1990s), there was no way I was risking that job.

Committment goes both ways.

To be fair, there are flakes in every profession at every pay grade and every age group, but entry level is probably where a lot of them stay.
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