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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 07:00 PM
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Poll question: Star Trek: The Action Movie?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 07:21 PM
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1. After reading that Steven Moffatt will continue the mindless drivel started by Russell T Davies,
and forgive me that tangent already, combined with everything else I've seen of this reboot, he's urinating on Gene Roddenberry's space vial. Gene's really spinning in his grave. :(

I just can't see Kirk as some punk, who steals cars for his jollies and gets chased by robocop... Kirk did break rules, but for the betterment of socities. Not just to get his own jollies satisfied (no sex puns intended).

Loud music, lots of f/x scenes, retconning... I don't buy into the "reimaging for modern audiences" crap when the reimaging only takes the names and looks of the characters and removes the soul and essence from what the show was originally created as. Just make a new space opera and give it another name. What's wrong with that...

I suppose I'll have to see it, but given the cast is young enough to model for diaper commercials, I suspect it's going to be the usual shallow drivel for the usually shallow 18~25 demographic.

And then we wonder why they're called dumb. Ambient environment; we teach them to be dumb.

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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 07:52 PM
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2. It would make sense if it were a reboot.
But they keep sayin its not with the whole future spock thing in the movie. Apparently its a flashback thats totally different from everything.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 08:14 PM
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3. I see that Nimoy is in it, which would support the flashback theory
Who knows, maybe Vulcans get Alzheimers and he's "misremembering."
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JTG of the PRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 08:14 PM
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4. I have a theory about that, and I've heard a whisper or two on the intertubes regarding it...
It regards the idea of not "changing the past," but rather creating an entirely separate time line. Supposedly, that's the idea behind this movie. When the bad guy and Spock travel back in time, an entirely new time line is created in which thi gs are incredibly similar, and yet also different.

That's just my thoughts, though. I could be wrong, but it makes sense in a way - being a reboot and not a reboot at the same time and all that.
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deucemagnet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:54 PM
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5. I think that would be clever and consistent with the Star Trek mythology.
How many times has the Enterprise visited the past or crossed over into an alternate reality? With the flexible time-space of the Star Trek universe, you can ret-con a new time line without rewriting the original.

If that's what they did, I'm ready to suspend my disbelief and enjoy the ride!
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JTG of the PRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 07:55 PM
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8. That's the way I'm hoping it turns out.
That way, it's not a ret-con, but an entirely different universe that's being created by the interference in the time line.

Either way, I know I'll like the movie. I'll just enjoy it a lot more if they do it the way I'm thinking.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 06:55 AM
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7. Kirk's ego spilled over the edges of the Alpha Quadrant.
I could well believe that it was resistant to taming in his youth (as it was in the Shatner Treks). Even Kirk's judgment of what contributed to the "betterment" of various societies was questionable.

I'm expecting some sacrilege in the new movie. I'm even hoping for some, as the stilted writing and acting (by modern standards) in most of TOS is painful to watch now. I'll gladly sit through loud music if the movie's exciting.

If I'm going to have to wrap my mind around a new set of faces, though, I'd better get a well-written and -acted story this time around. The original-cast movies were incredibly clumsy excuses to hold together a crew that should long before have split up and moved on to new assignments. That's the aspect that worries me about the new flick--why should these same people be gathered together before being assigned to the same ship? Are we to believe that they were all classmates, or what?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 08:02 PM
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10. Reimiging here is being used as a euphemism for "dumbing down"
They reimiged Galactica to make it a story about ideas. Trek at its best was always about ideas. This looks like it's just about selling popcorn.
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:02 PM
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6. Uhura gets nekkid in this one. First of the hot Trek babes.
I hear she gives Spock an earjob too.

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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 07:59 PM
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9. No!
Uhura stayed on the Enterprise following a personal request from Martin Luther King (who ran into Nichelle Nichols at a fundraiser and she mentioned that she was frustrated with the size of her role on the show).

If they reduce this icon to a T&A display, I'll never forgive whoever it is is directing this 90210 rip off.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 08:07 PM
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11. Leondard Nimoy commented about this movie.
He and his wife were invited to an advanced screaming. His main point was that his wife, who does not like Star Trek or science fiction in general, enjoyed the movie.

Some people interpreted this as a positive review.

I question their interpretation.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 08:10 PM
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12. I am not a Trek fan.
I won't be going to see the movie.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 08:40 PM
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13. I'm a lifelong, full-blooded Trek fan, and I will be first in line to see this
If you've read anything about the movie, an incident happens at the beginning that changes the Trek Universe as we have come to know it, including how James T. spends his formative years. But he still ends up being the smart and cool guy we all know and love.

I have yet to see a bad review for this movie, from Star Trek fans and non-fans alike. The franchise desperately needed defibrillation, and it appears that this movie delivers it.

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