I hate motorcycle noise!!!!!!!!!!!

[Critters2]

I can't sit in my backyard on a beautiful Sunday afternoon without the constant noise of these inconsiderate pigs!!! There's supposed to be a noise ordinance in this town. Why the fuck isn't it enforced???!!!!!!

[TK421]

1. We have the same problem with that in my town

there is no such thing as noise ordinances around here...I feel your pain.

They are annoying as hell

[MajorChode]

2. I have the same problem here and it pisses me off to no end

You also have the yahoos that put cheap shitty loud mufflers on their trucks so they won't feel so guilty about their small white penises and the brainless punks that put coffee can mufflers on their piece of shit cars. Why this is tolerated I have no idea. That's definitely one thing Europe is head and shoulders above the US on. They have a much higher population density, yet much less problems with noise pollution because they are smart enough to put a stop to the mouth breathers who want to make noise for the sake of making noise.

[Critters2]

6. I love your Saint-Ex quote.

What a great writer. _Vol de Nuit_ is my very favorite novel, in any language.

[MajorChode]

10. I love that one

Short enough to read in one sitting, but it takes much longer to fully appreciate. I wish I were extremely fluent in French so that I could read the original version.

[Critters2]

14. I had to read it for a college French course. His descriptive writing

helped me to get a feel for the language, probably better than anything else. I knew I was really learning French when I read a description of one flight in the mountains, and could just feel the cold as he described it. I've never read it in English. In French, though, it is a thing of beauty!

[MajorChode]

15. Here is another great quote from the translated version:

Page 78.

"We do not pray for immortality," he thought, "but only not to see our acts and all things stripped suddenly of all their meaning: for then it is the utter emptiness of everything reveals itself."

It's one of the passages that I highlighted when I read it for the first time.

[Critters2]

18. That is beautiful. I should read it in English. nt

[madinmaryland]

7. You forgot the morans that drive ten year Honda Civics/Accords

that have the screamer "mufflers".

Assholes!

[DarkTirade]

9. I had to deal with a shitload of those when I lived in a college area in Orlando.

They're loud enough that they cause physical discomfort, sometimes even pain. But those assholes don't care, they have the body of the car between them and the noise.

[MajorChode]

11. I didn't forget them

That's what I meant when I said, "brainless punks that put coffee can mufflers on their piece of shit cars."

I would probably put them at the end of the list since the pistons in their engines are about as big around as their dicks and they aren't really capable of being heard from miles away like the others, but they still should be drowned in a bucket of shit for their stupidity for the sake of the gene pool if for no other reason.

[SoxFan]

3. Harley-Davidson provides deep discounts to law enforcement agencies

Think that has something to do with it?

[Critters2]

4. I didn't know that. I do know that the police chief here has a Harley

and, apparently, based on that and other factors, a really small penis.

I guess it doesn't surprise me that this has to do with deep discounts. Bastids.

[SoxFan]

5. And remember, most motorcycle noise is from Harleys

A certain group of anatomically challenged owners feel a need to modify the pipes to make that famn racket.

[Critters2]

8. We had a Harley festival thing a few years ago. The original plan

was that it would be an annual thing. But between the businesspeople who complained that only bars made money, and others lost business because townies stayed home; and complaints about noise, they only did it that once. Thank God!

[MajorChode]

13. Perhaps most, but there are plenty of non-Harleys as well

They are mostly driven by middle aged men who are recently divorced and have a prescription for Viagra, but I really don't mean to stereotype anyone.

[SoxFan]

22. Harleys are far noisier

You don't see a lot of people modifying the pipes on Yamahas, Suzukis, Hondas, Kawasakis, or BMWs. It's the clowns who screw with the pipes on H-D bikes that cause most of the racket.

[yellowcanine]

26. Not just Harleys. There are mod kits sold for every major make. Go read the discussion boards and

you will see that this is a major topic - how can I make my bike louder? The only way it will stop is if states pass and enforce regulations to prevent modifying the pipes and also local communities must enforce noise ordinances.

[Critters2]

28. Don't these people end up losing their own hearing?

Seems like they would.

[yellowcanine]

36. Not necessarily. It is louder behind the bike than on it. And many riders

wear a helmet which covers their ears at least somewhat. Believe it or not, wind noise is often more of a problem than exhaust noise. A full helmet with face mask will solve the issue in any case.

[MajorChode]

17. Not exactly

The stock exhaust on a Harley might be somewhat noisy, but it is street legal in just about any area. Most owners modify them so they are much louder.

[Dappleganger]

20. Yes

Dh hasn't touched his and it's perfectly legal.

[michreject]

49. Not modified but replaced

I have Screaming Eagle pipes on my Heritage Softail.

[yellowcanine]

35. Police patrol motorcycles with stock exhausts are not noisy so I don't see your point.

Actually no stock exhausts, HD or otherwise, are noisy. It is only when they are modified with aftermarket pipes - usually not even made by the original manufacturer. So I don't see your point about the discounts - which would be going to local governments anyway - they purchase the patrol motorcycles and would get fleet discounts just as they do for every other kind of government owned vehicle - the contracts are bid out and HD doesn't always win them by the way. Several major motorcycle manufacturers make police issue models. So what that has to do with private individuals who might modify their own personal motorcycle eludes me. The patrol bikes certainly are not modified to be louder as long as they are official law enforcement patrol vehicles.

I don't own a HD by the way. I do own a Honda Shadow 1100 with stock pipes. It is not nearly as noisy as many of the sport sedans and coupes I see in traffic. Even so, I recognize that it is inherently noisier than many vehicles on the road and drive accordingly in residential neighborhoods.

[billyoc]

12. Sorry about that.

[medeak]

16. BMW's rule.. faster..quiet

and they don't break down like Harley's! Pain in ass to be on road trips with friends on their Harley's.. have to be in front or go deaf and they ALWAYS break down and hang us up. Don't hate all bikers? xoxoxoxo

[Dappleganger]

19. There's nothing sweeter...

then listening to the thump.thump.thump of my husband's FHC several miles away. :)

We have MC's all over this area (dh and I both ride) so I love it.

[Critters2]

23. Why should everyone within those several miles have to listen

to your noise? It's just rude.

[Dappleganger]

40. There's nothing wrong with it...

it has a lower timbre than a lot of other noises and I know it's his bike. It is perfectly legal and within acceptable parameters. There are all kinds of other loud noises you encounter outside, this is hardly any different or even much competition for that matter. He has never modded the pipes to sound louder so don't go making blanket statements about every bike rider.

BTW, my pipes are rather soft (Yamaha Virago) and it concerns me because cars CAN'T hear me very well with the windows up.

[Critters2]

44. Well, if yours aren't noisy, then you wouldn't be one of the ones I'm complaining

about. I am talking about the assholes who sit at stop lights and gun their damned engines. The ones who HAVE modified their pipes. There's a lot of that around here.

[Skittles]

21. I dislike it too

noisy bastards

[Critters2]

24. I think you should kick their collective ass. nt

[Skittles]

30. well, I dislike the noise but I like bikers

yes INDEED!

[LeftyMom]

25. This thread is off to a good start.

:popcorn:

[Critters2]

27. I dunno. I only see two people defending the noise mongers. nt

[LeftyMom]

29. Oh geez. Get a sense of perspective. You heard a noise, in daylight hours, while you were outside.

You're overreacting. A lot.

[Critters2]

31. It happens all the time here. Daytime. Nighttime. In my house. Outdoors.

The worst of it around here is in the state parks. The motorcycle noise is amazing. I often think that it must be really frightening for the wildlife. But hey, the motorcycle people have rights!

[yellowcanine]

37. Not to mention generalizing and stereotyping like crazy. The majority of motorcycles, HD or

otherwise, have stock exhausts which are not particularly loud particularly when ridden at street speeds in residential neighborhoods. And most MC riders that I know do not
roar around residential neighborhoods at night. Riders who do would get tickets for speeding where I live.

[LeftyMom]

39. My Dad and my Stepdad both have Harleys.

My Dad has several, ranging from classic models that have won prizes at shows to a pretty new one he rides around the south county on nice weekend afternoons, and around the block once or twice a week in in any weather just to keep the battery in good shape. While all of them are louder than a stock car (by virtue of not having room for a muffler on the exhaust,) none of them are loud enough to disturb anybody who isn't looking for a reason to throw a snit, or even to impede conversation while standing right next to one while it's being warmed up.

Which isn't to say that I haven't heard people go by on one of those bikes that are modified to be really loud with an earth-shaking bass rumble, but blaming that on cyclists or Harley owners generally is like blaming the noise created by a small subset of street racing ricers on Honda and every person who drives a Civic.

[Critters2]

43. I complained about the noise that I hear. Didn't make any

statements beyond that. When I'm trying to enjoy a beautiful Sunday afternoon, I can't hear the birds sing for the motorcycle noise. I know most of 'em are Harleys. That's as far as I offered an opinion.

[yellowcanine]

54. You "know" most of them are Harleys. How?

From inside your house? From your porch? I don't think so. There are a lot of Harley look alikes out there and someone is just as likely to modify the pipes on a look alike as a real Harley. I can't tell you how many people have asked me about my "Harley", which is a stock 1998 Honda Shadow 1100.

[Dappleganger]

41. LOL

I see a lot of people lumping motorcycles into one broad-sweeping jet engine screech.

Ya'll need to lighten up and go for a ride. Seriously--I'd love to take you and you'll fall in love.

[Critters2]

42. Yeah. I've never been on a motorcycle.

:eyes:

[friedgreentomatoes]

32. Love HDs.

Love the sound. I refuse to call it "noise".
Would like to own one someday.

[Critters2]

33. When a sound comes into someone else's space unwelcome,

it becomes noise.

[MajorChode]

38. Racket is a better word

[uncle ray]

51. you have no right to silence during the day though.

i don't care for noise either, i work nights so i "try" to sleep until 10 am sometimes. i seldom get to. the neighbor's friends all announce their presence with their car horns. there's always a car alarm going off it seems. the cop across the street likes to hop on his cold-blooded shovelhead at 7 am to go to the corner store to get the paper. the phone rings, or failing all of that, there will be one of those goddamned annoying little BIRDS making all that racket outside my window, those fucking rude BIRDS! don't they know i live in this house in town to enjoy my peace and quiet? and don't get me started on those crickets. i just noticed the cricket outside my window right now, the little fuckers don't stop, do they?

it is absurd to think you are entitled to silence. complain about noise at 3 am and i'll have some sympathy. do you get furious when a neighbor mows their lawn? do you have some kind of silent lawn mower that ensures your neighbors can enjoy a silent afternoon?

[Starbucks Anarchist]

34. I hear them a lot in my neighborhood.

Total assholes.

[Odin2005]

45. Meh, I'm normally very sensitive to noise because of my Asperger's, but...

I've gotten used to loud cars and motorcycles after living in downtown Fargo for 5 years. :shrug:

[Blue_Tires]

46. yeah, it's gotten on my nerves as well over the years

from the gixxers racing on the highway to the harleys with idle levels louder than a top fuel dragster, I don't even bother to roll down my windows when I'm driving anymore (unless i'm on a completely deserted road)...

and I'm understanding of the open road and taking a ride/drive on a nice day and the weekend 'biker rebel' culture and all that other image marketing BS H-D spews out, but why can there never be a happy medium between stock noise levels and "space shuttle at liftoff"??

[MissMillie]

47. If it were a car, the car would be ticketed

I hate the noise too.

Someone once tried to convince me that motorcycles had to be loud because people just didn't seem to see them as readily as a car.

Of course, if the bikers could stay in the lane (as opposed to driving in between and around the traffic lanes), people might actually see them.

[uncle ray]

53. people really don't see bikes all that easy.

you'll believe it after a few months on the road on a bike. i can't tell you how many times i've been next to a car when the driver looks right in my direction and seems to make eye contact, only to make a lane change right into the space i am trying to occupy. it really happens. a lot. anybody with a quiet bike who says it doesn't, doesn't ride much.

some bikers have obnoxiously loud pipes and ride aggressively . most don't. just as some motorists drive with their heads up their asses, most don't.

in many states splitting lanes is perfectly legal. it is up to the motorist to know their surroundings before making a lane change or whatever maneuver, so don't even try to blame the bikers for not being visible on the road.

[yellowcanine]

55. Wow now you are really stereotyping. The vast majority of MC riders do

not ride between lanes or on shoulders. Cars will pull right out in front of MCs which are doing the speed limit in the center of a valid lane. It happens. Some people just don't take the second look when they should.

[guitar man]

56. It doesn't hurt

With all the inattentive drivers on the road yapping on their cell phones etc. it doesn't hurt to have a loud bike. Of course, there's loud, and then there's ridiculously loud. Mine is merely loud and it get's driver's attention as I approach, so I wouldn't have it any other way.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

48. Me too, especially when I'm on a motorcycle

If I'm riding behind a H-D with modified "rude" pipes, it's annoying. "Factory" H-D's don't seem to be a problem.

But sitting in my yard on a Sunday afternoon, MC's are only part of the noise. Cars with loud pipes, cars with loud subwoofers, neighbors with loud lawn equipment. I mean, do they really need a leaf blower? What happened to rakes?

:hi:

[JonLP24]

50. In central Washington state they have noise ordinances

They say no engine brake but the problem is they got massive hills. Sometimes you do need to use the engine break to save other's lives or your own. Alot of people overuse the engine brake when normal brakes can be used. Some will instruct you save your air breaks use the engine brake. Not me, the air breaks can be repeared and plus the more you use your engine brake the more oil that gets all over the place. The only time I used engine brake was when my trailer snapped the air cords and all my brakes went out. It was northern Iraq where it is very hilly(only my 2nd mission btw) I had to keep a large following distance when is a big no-no in a convoy but had to use the engine brake to slow done constantly. I didn't get any recognition because I was tasked for a company that had limited available drivers which they tasked me. A 101st truck driving company btw. I had a similar situation where the air brakes went out about a dozen missions later but since it was within my own company I recieved praise from experienced truck drivers that I didn't wreck or lose my load when my air brakes went out but since it was with my own company they noticed it, but little did they know I already experienced that feat in much more mountainous region in only my 2nd mission.

[sammythecat]

52. HEY EVERYBODY, LISTEN UP!

I'M COMING DOWN THE ROAD NOW. HERE I AM!!. I'M GOING away now, at ease everybody.

[eauclaireliberal]

57. Actually there is one good good reason for that

Because of the noise, highway travel is a tad bit safer for the biker AND you if you can hear it coming. Tends to get your attention. No, I seriously doubt that is what the manufacturer had in mind.

[Critters2]

58. I don't live in a highway. There's never been a motorcycle accident in my yard.

So, why is the noise necessary here?

[datasuspect]

59. G.F.O.D.

1%er Numbnuts R.I.P. A.O.A.