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ursacorwin Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 03:59 PM
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Who would Live in a Commune?
just being loungy and crazy for a minute, but i want to ask- are there any of you out there who want to pack it in, 'give up' on consumerist american society, and try to find a new way of living?

let me be clear: i'm not trying to define what this community would be like. kibbutzes, hippie communes, religious communities are all good, but flawed models from my perspective. but a blend of proven ideas with a group people who shared the same values could work, i think.

just an informal poll, i welcome ideas as well as naysayers.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 04:00 PM
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1. Nope, I like my privacy and freedom too much
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 04:00 PM
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2. I want to start a commune
although the business plan reads more like a sex cult.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 04:01 PM
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3. sure
who brings the chicks?

:)
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ursacorwin Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 04:06 PM
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6. see, now i think that's kinda sad
that you would all think the word 'commune' has something to do with sex, or the loss of privacy. the idea here has more of an interest iin a self-sustaining community of people with shared goals, which themselves could be anything.

i guess i'm talking more to the mature and/or unemployed crowd. the ones who are just realizing that the system is slowly collapsing, and some of us are going to get crushed.

a community of people looking after one another, with sustainable practices and an insulating (in dire times) attitudes would be a better place to be during the Jeb Bush Riots of 09 than the suburbs.

the cubicles and strip malls will not be safe forever. read some history and tell me for just how long americans go without some major social upheaval...
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 04:14 PM
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9. that's exactly what I want
A place for like minded people to live together.

Just as long as all the like-minded people are hot chicks who wanna make out with me.

:evilgrin:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 04:20 PM
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10. Is making out with you a sustainable lifestyle?
Or are there limits to how long you can last?
:-)
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 05:05 PM
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19. hell
If I had a commune full of beautiful women willing to make out with me I'd ride that pony as far as she'd go (figuratively speaking of course).

:)
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blackcat77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 04:24 PM
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13. Sounds like you're talking more about...
...a "tribe" rather than a commune. In a sense, we're already in tribes -- I guess you're just seeing them as being unhooked from the general grid.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 04:05 PM
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4. Will we be naked? Co-ed?
In that case, yes. :-)
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 04:05 PM
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5. planning on it
When my fiancee's parents retire, we most likely will be getting their dozens-of-acres farm on top of a mountain here in New England. We hope to start a lil community up there with friends and family.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 04:09 PM
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7. I can start in January
I suggest we make it a moonshining commune for two reasons:
A. I want to get all fucked up.
B. I want us to be able to have some money, so that we are not digging filth like the commune in Monty Python's Holy Grail.
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TNDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 04:13 PM
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8. Check out www.thefarm.org
One of the first and most lasting communes.
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 08:00 PM
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27. See post 25....
....and tell Stephen and Ina Mae Pat and Martha say hi! :hi:
I miss the old 'Beatnick Bell'! Telegraph, Telephone, Tell a hippy! :evilgrin:
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 04:21 PM
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11. If something happened to my husband
I'd definitely consider it an option. I don't think my husband would want that sort of thing and I value our marriage so it isn't an option now and I hope that it will not be ever.
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blackcat77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 04:21 PM
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12. I *did* live in a commune back in 1970.
I was 18 at the time and used to a more regimented and social lifestyle. Since then, I've grown to appreciate both my privacy and my possessions and wouldn't choose that lifestyle any more.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 04:24 PM
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14. I don't even like sharing a house with my husband!
I lived alone for 10 years and loved it. I hate living with other people. I need solitude and privacy. I'm the kind of introvert that finds interaction with people exhausting and enervating.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:17 PM
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31. I'm with you geniph!
I love being alone. My job requires me to interact with people all the time and I love sitting with a book or putzing around my house. I love the summer because my hubby is out golfing all the time and when we see one another, we appreciate the time we have together.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 04:26 PM
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15. If this is going to be a cult: I call God!!!
Edited on Tue Aug-12-03 04:26 PM by JVS
Since I am the first to call it I get to be god. Nananananana!
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 04:46 PM
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16. I would in a heartbeat..
lets start one...
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 05:55 PM
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22. You can come live on ours!
:hi:
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 08:02 PM
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28. keep me posted!!
:hi:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 04:48 PM
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17. I did live in one
Edited on Tue Aug-12-03 04:49 PM by proud patriot
1970 SF in the Haight ...ask me anything ..I was only 3
at the time .
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 04:56 PM
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18. I seriously considered the idea.
Edited on Tue Aug-12-03 05:08 PM by chaska
I went for a three week visit to http://www.twinoaks.org/ about a year ago. I tell ya, there is a lot to like about the place. I met some great people, and while it seems to work for them, it's just not me.

These people are real dedicated to the lifestyle. They are particularly environmentally conscious. Me, I couldn't take the boredom of a life without television. I get real bored with too much conversation. And talking is about all they do (other than work - and they do work (in the commune's businesses)). I found myself feeling trapped (not literally - it's not a cult) by the restrictions on car use for instance. This particular commune has A LOT of rules - which of course are necessary, but somewhat onerous.

The place was surprisingly diverse: Black, white, asian, gay, straight, transgendered - you name it. It was a bit heavier than I would have preferred on the hippie vibe, but that's to be expected. Surprisingly little drug use though - communers are poor.

I would love to live in a community like that if there could be more freedom, more independence. I think the problem with an arrangement like they have is that there is too much interdependence. They want people to be able to come with nothing, but if everyone comes with nothing it means a lot of rules to prevent bankruptcy. And well, yeah, there are a lot of true believers. I'm an environmentalist, but I'm not fanatic about it the way most communers are.

All in all, it was a great experience. And a dirt cheap (working)vacation. I highly recommend it ... but not in the summer - life without air conditioning is hell.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 05:53 PM
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20. read "Beyond Civilization" by Daniel Quinn...also wrote "Ishmael"
Edited on Tue Aug-12-03 05:55 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
kinda like tribalism ...great book...:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 05:54 PM
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21. Too much politics.
A dysfunctional communal living arrangement can turn reasonable people into backstabbing Machiavellians. And I'm not sure I have the stomach for the endless consensus-seeking meetings.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 07:11 PM
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23. "I don't know, I saw some pictures of one in a magazine...
it didn't seem too clean" Travis Bickle
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 07:14 PM
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24. The best answer I can give is 'maybe.'
It would very much depend on the commune itself.

I wouldn't be one of the first to join. I'd be all about exposing myself to the social dynamic rather slowly and getting an opportunity to see if I felt it was in the mutual best interest of myself and the commune in question.
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 07:17 PM
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25. Been there, done that!
My 2 oldest children were born on one in Tennessee! :evilgrin:
BTW, the term 'commune' is passé, try 'Intentional Community' instead. :)
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 07:54 PM
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26. I woud not live in one
Too many negative connotations. But if you have a plan, go for it!
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 08:16 PM
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29. my neighbors are starting a commune
they've invited us to join. their model is peace loving, living with nature,etc,etc.
so far we've declined.
would i do it, yes.
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 08:57 PM
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30. I spent time on a kibbutz
For a while I was content, though with time I was beginning to thirst intellectually. And since I wasn't Jewish, I knew I'd always be an outsider, even as an insider. And staying long term, I kept having flames, who were European staying short term, depart back for home. That can grow into a bummer. Anyway, each kibbutz has it's own characteristics. Size is a factor. Too big and folk begin to feel isolated. Television had a great impact on the social life and general meetings. Decisions couldn't be made because folk were at home watching "Dallas". With the right mix of factors, it could be a good life. I noticed in the small village or tribal lifestyle, those who would be marginalized in a larger society (the elderly, the not-too-bright, etc) are included.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 02:43 AM
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32. Um, I sorta do!
My three roommates and I have this funky geek commune thing going. We don't own land or anything yet, though.

It's nice, even if we have been called "crazy" as recently as this afternoon. There are always people to help with the household chores (and the RepubRoomie, who is a neat-freak, actually *does* many of the chores) and people to talk to or hug if you need to.

Tucker
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