Every time the film "Independence Day" is on, I can't believe how bad it is

[Orrex]

And then, when I watch a few minutes of it, I realize that it's always going to be worse than I remember.

What an awful, awful film. Terrible in every way.

:puke:

[Bucky]

1. But Dennis Quaid was GREAT in it. Like that time he trashed alien motel & fled w/o paying

John Wayne sings "Everybody Loves Somebody Sometime" is the only possible response to your so called opinions

[LostInAnomie]

3. Randy Quaid! Randy Quaid!

[HughBeaumont]

40. "Shitter's Full, Clark!"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[HughBeaumont]

39. Wrong Emmerich movie.

Dennis Quaid's in The Day After Tomorrow.

[Capn Sunshine]

2. I dunno, Big Names, Aliens, big things blowing up.....what's not to like?

"Hello boys! Remember me? I'm baaaaaaaack!

[Curtland1015]

4. It's terrible, isn't it? I love the part where the explosive fireball...

...slowly creeps up the tunnel, giving the lady enough time to save the dog and close the door.

[Orrex]

12. The dog jumping out of the fireball is the worst thing I've ever seen on the big screen

Even when I saw it in the theater, when the nation had been primed and pre-preparged to love the whole damn film, the entire audience groaned at that.

[azmouse]

5. I've always wondered how the Jeff Goldblum character and his father

managed to get from New York City to Washington DC so quickly AND park in front of the WH!!

And they did this when so many others couldn't travel a city block!

[PVnRT]

55. Especially when all lanes would be outbound to evacuate the city

[Captain Hilts]

6. Well, you didn't see it on a HUGE screen within walking distance of sites destroyed in the movie!

At the Uptown on Conn. Ave. it was AWESOME. A laugh out loud riot.

GREAT fun!

[texanwitch]

28. They blew up Houston.

That would take a big bomb.

The movie had its moments.

[bigwillq]

7. Yes, I thought it was awful too (nt)

[WolverineDG]

8. It was great in the movie theatre

at home, not so much. Don't know why...we all had a great time, even with the "big enough to drive a truck through" plot holes.

dg

[Orrex]

13. I first saw it in the theater

And even then I said "hold the cheese, please."

How did a handful of crop-dusters and hobby-pilots manage to turn in to Top-Gun F16 pilots in the space of like two hours?

[WolverineDG]

16. That was part of the fun

at least for us, laughing at all the improbabilities. :rofl:

dg

[Captain Hilts]

22. Can you believe so many folks take this movie seriously? Mars attacks is a great follow up. nt

[Orrex]

25. FWIW, I hate Mars Attacks! too

Not a Burton fan, for one thing, but I found the whole film to be forced and lifeless.

[WolverineDG]

32. Oh god, I loved Mars Attacks

aack aaack AAAACCCKKKKk :rofl:

dg

[Captain Hilts]

33. Yeah, I liked it too. A truly stoopid movie. Glen Close was great!

[peekaloo]

45. any movie where Slim Whitman saves the day is okay by me.

:-)

[Ineeda]

62. And yodeling! I mean, we can't ever underestimate the destructive force of yodeling. n/t

[Captain Hilts]

21. In DC, it was at the Uptown, a 1/2 hour walk from the White House! The Uptown ran it 24 hrs...

a day for a while, so people in swanky Cleveland Park had to hear folks getting out at 2 or 5 am howling about it!

[Ptah]

9. Do you expect it to get better as the years go by?

:shrug:

[Orrex]

14. No, but I kind of hoped that it wouldn't suck worse than I remembered.

And my hope was dashed.

Again.

[Ptah]

17. On the other hand, I enjoyed Men In Black

[Orrex]

20. Men In Black was (and remains) terrific!

MIB2, not so much...

[lillypaddle]

10. Now a really good sci-fi film is

Space Cowboys. Clint Eastwood, Tommy Lee Jones, you just can't beat it. Of course it's terribly cheesy, but I liked it.

[tigereye]

11. there are far worse conventional films than that one... IMHO

I have to admit that we here always get sucked in when it's on (as Jingoistic as it is) - there's just something about Will Smith that I really like and, it sort of typifies that fantasy of the American "can-do, fight- back" spirit.

[Orrex]

15. Perhaps, but I didn't watch them yesterday

And the hype leading up to ID4--though not unique to that film--was so overblown that they really could have tried to make it not suck.


It still gets three stars according to Comcast's "infocenter" review system. :shrug:

[EndersDame]

19. EarthS A Earth S A!!

[flvegan]

18. What fat lady? Why are you obsessed with this fat lady?

[BlueJazz]

23. As a Computer Person, the idea that "Our" Computer Code would run with..

..."Their" computer code was just a wee-bit of a longshot.


...like 50 Quadtrillion to One. :)

[Mixopterus]

29. Yeah

That was absolutely laughable.

Odds are a race that advanced would easily wipe the floor with us without much of a response on our part.

[PVnRT]

56. Apple OS is apparently written completely in binary

Luckily, the alien ship is still using a binary system to run technology thousands upon thousands of years ahead of ours. I wonder if they have Pong?

[SeattleGirl]

24. I think it's a great movie to have on when I'm busy around the house.

It's a good "doing chores" movie.

[Mendocino]

26. Armageddon is worse

if that's possible.

[Orrex]

27. Unquestionably!

The thing about Armageddon that really baffles me is why there are so many super-tight closeups. Does it really establish pathos by filming straight up the nostrils of Billy Bob Thornton and Steve Buscemi on the big screen? I fail to see it.

[Mixopterus]

30. Armageddon IS terrible...

But I'm not sure it heaps the absurd upon you in the same way ID4 does. Destroying/diverting an asteroid with our technology is quite improbable but not necessarily impossible, while we are more or less screwed if malevolent aliens as advanced as the ones in ID4 show up.

[Mendocino]

34. This crapfest defies the laws of physics.

NASA uses it for training. 168 errors have been found. But at least it piles cliche upon terrible acting with a power ballad from Aerosmith. :puke:

[Mixopterus]

35. You may have a point

The memory of ID4 is still fresh while I haven't inflicted Armageddon upon myself for many years. There is a possibility I have put a mental block on movie to save my psyche.

[Captain Hilts]

31. Armageddon has NO redeeming features whatsoever. nt

[Brigid]

36. Oh, I dunno about that.

Bruce Willlis chasing his daughter's boyfriend around the oil rig with a shotgun was pretty funny! :rofl:

[RFKHumphreyObama]

63. Armageddon was a scream

One of those movies so bad that it was hilarious. Right down to the soundtrack

The sad thing is that both Armageddon and Independence Day is still an improvement over much of the dreck we've gotten over the past decade

[PassingFair]

64. Puke Fest!!!

:puke:

I kept pulling my lighter out of my purse
and waving it around everytime the music
swelled.

Really pissed my husband off, but really,
the movie was one of the most terrible things
I've ever seen.

[Yavin4]

37. Where do you think Bush Got the Inspiration for the Flight Suit?

[Mendocino]

38. Independence Day is

jumbo corn with lotsa cheese.

[LeftyMom]

41. The Rifftrax is a riot though. Totally worth a download.

[ThoughtCriminal]

42. What the Evil Aliens Don't Know

You can download free 90 day trials of most anti-virus products. That's important to know if your moon-sized interstellar death-mobile relies on such a gawd-awful OS that even civilizations centuries behind you can hack it in two days.

[gmoney]

54. well, Jeff Goldblum's character was part Nigerian

the aliens sent him a lot of personal information, foolishly believing they would receive millions of dollars in return.

[Orrex]

60. Nice!

:thumbsup:

[kaiden]

43. It defied reason.

Here's this HUGE spaceship hovering over LA and everybody gets up and goes to work like nothing. Of course, I've never been to LA, so maybe that was realistic.

[GreenPartyVoter]

44. Yes it is, but I still watch it every couple of years just because.

[arcadian]

46. Reagan said the world would come together to fight an alien threat.

:tinfoilhat:

[Zavulon]

47. That's actually my attitude towards Top Gun.

I can't get over how awful that fucking film is.

[Orrex]

48. I've always thought the same thing

Even in high school, when everyone was drooling over it, I just said "meh."

Well, actually I didn't say "meh," because I hadn't yet encountered that word. But I was entirely unimpressed by it on any level.

Friends accused me of pretending to hate it just to be contrary, but I truly didn't like it at all.

[NewJeffCT]

49. No, it was not a good movie

but, I enjoy watching Will Smith, and Jeff Goldblum wasn't bad in his role, either.

[NJmaverick]

50. It's a fun movie, with plenty of action and spectacular affects

with a pretty good cast and easy dialog. It's just a fluff movie, enjoy it for what it is.

[gmoney]

52. +1

You can pick apart almost any movie for plot holes and "scientific" technicalities, but the point is to have fun. For instance, in Star Wars all the spaceships make their own noises, rumbling, screeching, etc. when in reality space is silent since there's no atmosphere to transmit sound waves. I'm sure Lucas knew that, but also knew it would be a more entertaining experience to have sound effects for the dogfights and explosions and such.

And if it really offends your sensibilities, watch something else? Or revel in the badness if you must.

[Orrex]

61. Oh, relax

I love it when somebody posts a rant in the Lounge along the lines of "I don't like this film/show/performer/whatever," and somebody invariably responds by saying "well don't watch it."

Well no kidding.

That kind of misses the point, though. No one is complaining about being strapped into a Ludovico chair and forced to watch the movie; they're just ranting about it.

If such posts really offend your sensibilities, then don't click on them. Or join in with rant if you must!

:evilgrin:

[joeybee12]

51. I liked it, and i usually don't like summer blockbuster-types...

...oh well.

[derby378]

53. It's bad, but it's enjoyably bad

And yes, I do feel a little bit of empathy for Randy Quaid when he tells his children that he loves them before his signal goes dead.

But if you haven't seen Mars Attacks! yet, I highly recommend it. It's a tremendous slap at Independence Day, and they just can't show it enough.

[WolverineDG]

66. Mars Attacks came out decades before Independence Day

:)

dg

[derby378]

67. I meant the Tim Burton movie

Poor, evil, misunderstood Martians. All they wanted to do was screw with us for a while before they killed us off.

[PVnRT]

57. *ahem* The Core

http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/core.html

[BlueIris]

58. I have a sick love for "Independence Day," precisely because of its badness.

The hokey, the camp, the massive, over-the-top EVERYTHING. It's one of the premier films of what Ebert called The Decade of Hype.

[martymar64]

59. The theme song sounds extremely similar to Deutschland Uber Alles

That bugs the hell out of me.

[Coventina]

65. I'm convinced Bush based his flight suit appearance on that movie.

Completely, totally convinced.

[dembotoz]

68. watched it again this past week--it is just fun.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

69. The first time I saw it --

I spent the entire time noting how many other movies Independence Day was ripping off -- it was nothing but an amalgam of rehashed scenes from far, FAR better films.

[Forkboy]

70. I love how Devlin/Emmerich always steal scenes from other movies.

Then they just call it a "homage". No guys, it's called "ripping off previous, better movies."