L O S T

[Ohio Joe]

I'm digging that they are doing the pop-up-video thing for the previous weeks show, I'm not sharp enough to catch everything. I also like the reminders of things from seasons past :D

[elleng]

1. Enjoy it! Watching Westminster instead, tonight.

Is it later available somewhere, like on hulu?

[Ohio Joe]

2. yes, it is on Hulu

Also on-demand here.

[tishaLA]

3. OMG Katie Segal returns as Locke's girlfriend!

I'm so excited.

[Ohio Joe]

4. and... (spoiler)

He has a good relationship with his dad? How was he paralyzed then?

[Ohio Joe]

5. He's getting pretty ripe

bwahahahahahahahaha

[Bucky]

6. "Don't Tell Me What I Can't Do!"

:rofl:

[Ohio Joe]

7. The kid... speculation

Jacob reborn?

[Bucky]

8. That sounds better than my theory.

Cause he looks like that kid who played Ethan. But he's all Othery in dress, so Jacob is a better idea.

[Gore1FL]

66. Aaron? n/t

[Bucky]

9. Oh my God. I think Hurley's recruiting for the Dharma Initiative!

Theory #2: It's Sawyer vs the Devil. Put down "Mice and Men" and start reading "The Devil and Daniel Webster"!


... aaaaannnd another commercial break!

[Ohio Joe]

10. Could be

He does seem to be connected to lots of them.

[Ohio Joe]

11. and I'm very sorry I murdered him

oh... holy shit :D

[TCJ70]

12. "This is the weirdest damn funeral I've ever been to."

Nice response, Frank. haha

[charlie and algernon]

13. Terry O'Quinn is one hell of an actor

and he and Katie Segal acted the hell out of that scene.

[Bucky]

14. Blackstone, whitestone. We've seen that before

That's it.... Sawyer's dead.

There's the backgammon set from Season One, the stones by Adam and Eve in Season two..

Is this just going to end up being about Egyptian mythology? If Jacob is really Amen-Ra, I'll be so disappointed.

[Ohio Joe]

15. Was that...

Their names written on the ceiling?

[TCJ70]

16. Among the ones that weren't scratched out, I saw:

Reyes (Jurley) and Jarrah (Sayid)

So yeah, but who put them there? Hrm...

[Ohio Joe]

17. I'm going to have to watch it again to see...

if there are any clues as to who might die

[Bucky]

22. The fact that there's only one Kwon on the ceiling should be one clue

Sdaly, the only happy ending I was absolutely sure had to happen is now probably not going to happen.

Let's think about what they all do... Ben lies, Kate runs, Sawyer self-sacrifices, Jin runs around looking for his wife, Jack consistantly makes the wrong decision every damn time... I wonder if there's a clue in all that about how it all ends. This story is supposedly character driven after all.

[Bucky]

18. Who ever wrote those names is who ever's been knocking them off.

I'm saying this again... I think Jacob is the evil one and the Cloud is the good guy <== possible spoiler alert

[Ohio Joe]

19. oh my....

Now THAT would be a wicked twist.... I think I would like it though :D

[charlie and algernon]

20. the numbers

so the world famous numbers are associated with each of the surviving losties, except for locke, i guess now. So it's now 8 15 16 23 42 left

[Ohio Joe]

21. oh crap... I completely missed that

woah... cool :D

[charlie and algernon]

23. from what I saw

4-Locke (now crossed out)
8-Hurley
15-Sawyer
16-Kwon (Sun or Jin)
23-Jack
42-Kate??

[Bucky]

24. Sawyer's crossed out too, now

[Ohio Joe]

25. Which one was Sayid?

42? I don't remember Kate but Sayid was defintly there.

[charlie and algernon]

26. I was off a bit, from the TWoP forums:

4: Locke
8: Reyes
15: Ford
16: Jarrah
23: Shephard
42: Kwon

[Ohio Joe]

28. Spill the beans

What is this TWoP Forums you speak of?

[charlie and algernon]

29. Television Without Pity

They have discussion forums for nearly every current TV Show

Here's the link to the LOST forums:
http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showforum=708

[Ohio Joe]

30. Cool, Thanks! - nt

[Bucky]

31. All men, assuming of course

Jacob - male. MIB - male. Ben & Charles - male. The Jack-Locke-Sawyer power struggle was all male. Flight 815 was basically a plane full of Abercrombie models. The island demands male energy to cling to it. Very ancient vibe I get from that. No wonder women can't have babies on the island--the island hates women because its jealous of their life-giving abilities.

Richard fits in there too. He's like a Gunga Din or something...

[charlie and algernon]

32. but you forget about Rose

she was cured of her cancer and is living a happy life with Bernard at their hidden cabin.

Life turned out pretty sweet for her. And remember, it was Bernard who was so frantic to leave and Rose was the one calming him down and getting him to accept living on the island with her.

[soleft]

35. Sexist

Only the guys

[Bucky]

39. Oh sure, in the same way that child birth is "sexist"

[Bucky]

27. Yes, that's my recollection too. But remember that Kate always runs. It's what she does.

And she's the most codependent character on the show--more so that Jack even. No way she'd be a candidate for protecting the island.

[peacefreak]

37. Jack is #23

Don't forget Psalm #23...The Lord is my...

[rvablue]

57. Kate's last name wasn't up there.

And what about Claire and Charlie and Rose and her husband and Will and his dad.

Were they just there because they were on the plane?

[slay]

42. How much you wanna bet Richard

or Whidmore, is an implied "0" making him a number too! Or Desmond even! Bwhahah.. j/k.. heheh... Great ep though woo-hoo! :woohoo:

[Bucky]

33. What Jacob gave them.

He gave Locke life. He gave Kate a lunchbox, Hurley a guitar case with an ankh in it, Sawyer a pen, Jin & Sun a blessing, the Tin Man a heart, Sayyid a death, Jack a candy bar, and Dorothy a way home.

I wonder if there's a pattern to be seen in there. This is the biggest dumpload of clues since Richard showed child Locke the knife, compass, baseball glove, book of laws, and one other thing. Hmmm.

Time for my head to spin.

[tishaLA]

34. NotLocke said that Jacob shows up when you're most vulnerable, etc

But that doesn't seem to fit in with Jin: he showed up on Jin's wedding day, which is a joyous celebration. And when Hurley left prison, it wasn't as vulnerable as, say, when he was in the institution. So I think NotLocke is still making shit up and manipulating Sawyer. But to what end?

[soleft]

36. The thing the kid said

You can't kill him.

Was Jacob still alive when Notlock kicked him into the fire? If so, Notlock killed Jacob, not Ben.

[Bucky]

40. No, they play by the rules.

Ben killed Jacob. Smokey could only get at him indirectly, through a loophole.

[soleft]

45. Right, but then the kid said

You didn't play by the rules.

[swimboy]

54. Jacob told Hurley he was dead.

:shrug:

[Fleshdancer]

55. Jacob is dead, but I think the question is who technically killed him.

It's true that Ben stabbed Jacob, but it did seem like Jacob was technically still alive when fake Locke kicked him into the fire which would mean fake Locke didn't play by the rules.

I have no idea what the implications of this is though.

[Bucky]

61. It means things have gone terribly wrong and all chaos is going to break loose through May.

Which I totally approve of.

[Fleshdancer]

62. YAY!

I was hoping that was the answer. :D

[pengillian101]

38. L O S T

Man, this show just drove me nuts. I was hooked for a couple years. Then it went way beyond the bend. Just making up the story line weekly, so I quit watching.

I have been recording this last final season to see how it ends. But I really don't care so much anymore. I have not watched one show this season. They just sit there taking up space on the DVR. Someone wake me when it's over.

This should have been a 1 or 2 season show, but just like the hit show Prison Break, they just milk a story-line to death!

[slay]

43. N O O B

um.. ok.. everyone here is talking about how great it is, how it ties back in with all the previous seasons and you come here to shit on it why? either watch um or don't - is your loss missing out on such a great show - joke's on you kid. :rofl:

[SoxFan]

44. -108

[SteppingRazor]

46. -4, 8, 15, 16, 23, and 42 n/t

[Bucky]

41. I just love how, when you think about it, they were setting this up all along, from season one

You have Dharmaville, literally "the city of the Law", intruding into nature, the Island, which you can't escape. But behind that conflict, there's this struggle between a force of light and a force of dark--one is structure and the other is action (just like in Paradise Lost) but where the one who is action actually functions as a sort of security system for the whole location (just like the actions of nature often protect the world from the laws of man).

So there's this truce between Nature and the Law, a social contract as someone might have called it. It's even signed by a guy named Horace Goodspeed--a name that sounds like it came out of Plymouth colony in the early 1600s, which is a prime example of another time law and nature lived and fought right next to each other in such close proximity.

Damn, I love a good mystery!

 

[Fleshdancer]

47. Ok, the end of the episode with Ben??? WTF???? (spoilers obviously)

A teacher of European history in what I assume is a junior high??? :rofl:

[Ohio Joe]

48. The interaction between Ben and Locke was great

But so has every scene with those two in it. The question about Ben being there though is how did he get off the island after the explosion?

[Fleshdancer]

49. I love both actors

I honestly don't think LOST would be as good without them.

The side flashes this season are showing an alternative timeline from what I understand. So what we're seeing off the island this season is the reality of the characters if they had never been on the island in the first place.

[Ohio Joe]

50. True but...

The time line changes at the point the bomb goes off, the 70's and at that point Child Ben was still on the island recovering from Sayid shooting him.

[Fleshdancer]

52. but do we have actual proof of that?

All we really know is that the island is under water with the statue foot and the Dharma camp on it. We don't actually know exactly when the alt timeline begins. When the bomb did go off, the characters on the island who were stuck in 1977 suddenly jumped to the present.

[Ohio Joe]

53. Yes, I am making that assumption

But it is also true that they could swerve us and make pretty much any action performed in the past the one that created the new time line.

[Fleshdancer]

63. I made the same assumption too until I read this theory:

the bomb explosion PREVENTED the Island from sinking, and that the "Alternate Timeline" is the one in which the bomb NEVER went off, and at some point along the line the consequences of the Incident occurring, without Jughead being there to negate its energy, included the sinking of the entire Island.


I have to admit, this theory is a fun one.

[Gore1FL]

67. We dont; know what the nuke really did to the timeline and "when" it did to the timeline.

The nuke was detonated when Ben was (presumably) on the the island. (they did evacuate people--he had been claimed in some way, it may allowed him to come back.) --but arguably, we don;t know if the timeline was affected in 1977 on or if it was affected from 1977 in both directions.

[Bucky]

60. Maybe Locke was teaching the freshman class & Ben has the Seniors.

Or maybe there's a gifted & talented program in that school, which is exactly who Ben ought to be around.

[Fleshdancer]

64. yeah, I guess it could be a HS....

It's been so long that I forget that HS students don't actually look 25 like they do on the Gossip Girl or 90210, etc.

[hedgehog]

51. Whoever wrote all the names on the ceiling was awfully sloppy

about it.

[XemaSab]

58. Well, hell

You try writing on the roof of a cave with a piece of chalk while holding a torch with the other hand. :P

[rvablue]

56. I might've just missed it, but Kate's last name wasn't on the ceiling of the cave.

And out of Jin and Sun, only one of the is a "chosen" one.

I don't think Rose and her husband's name were up there either.

[Bucky]

59. Actually Sun's name is Paik. She might informally go by Mrs Kwon, but her name is Paik

Besides, as noted last night, all the other candidates are male. For whatever reason, I don't think a woman is allowed to have that job.

[Fleshdancer]

65. New sneak peeks for the next episode

WARNING: These are spoilers. If you click on the links and watch the videos, please do NOT discuss it at all on this thread out of respect for those who do not want to be spoiled.

http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2010/02/episode-6x05-lighthouse-sneak-peek-1.html
http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2010/02/episode-605-lighthouse-sneak-peek-2.html#axzz0fpwyulCO

[Gore1FL]

68. Something to think about: (spoilers)

John Locke tried to go on the walkabout as a result of Matthew Abaddon suggesting it. In the "new" reality, Locke tried it again. Clearly he had an accident, and likely Matthew Abaddon was an attendant for him--meaning that either Widmore is still involved, or with or without Widmore, Matthew Abaddon gets people to where they need to go.

This makes me think that the "new" reality involves a conscious choice of the "candidates" to return in the new timeline and that we have not seen the last of Matthew Abaddon.

[MilesColtrane]

69. This episode confirms my theory last week that the island was set up to be a prison.

Jacob was in charge of making sure that Smokey/Man in Black could not leave.

Jacob in Hebrew : Ya`aqob or Ya`aqov, meaning "heel-catcher" or "leg-puller". from עקב‎, `aqab or `aqav, "seize by the heel", "circumvent", "restrain"

It's becoming clear that Jacob pulled the names on the wall to the island because he needed someone to replace him in this task.

I don't think the Man in Black is Esau, Jacob's twin brother, but I do think he is a demon, or even the fallen angel Satan.