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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 07:11 PM
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Pain is tiring. Gout attack hit me 2 days ago
colchicine, ibuprofen, and ice

but damn this is tiring.

the pain in a 7.5 on a scale to ten. Every step off my right foot feels like someone is smacking a 2x4 across the top of the bones of my foot.

Trip to Busch Gardens Saturday is called off.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 07:19 PM
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1. Will your doc prescribe indocin?
It's pretty good for gout, I believe.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 07:36 PM
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2. My podiatrist did
but my nice rheumatologist says colchicine is better

:shrug:
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 07:39 PM
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3. Indocin is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory
Could it be taken in tandem with the colchicine?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 07:41 PM
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4. I don't know
I am going next thursday to start an official treatment.

Man it is KILLING ME right now
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 07:47 PM
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6. Could you call the doc and have him call in a script for vicodin
Or tylenol #3? Anything stronger you'd need a written script, but he could call one of those in.
Sorry you're in such pain. :hug:
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 09:16 PM
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14. It IS better, but sounds like you need a higher dose
And stay the fuck away from Allopurinol (then again I'm biased because I'm highly allergic to it) and spinach.

Get well soon!
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 07:47 PM
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5. You have at least 4-5 days left. I had several attacks about four to eight years ago.
Either you will need to seriously modify your diet or go on medication (allopurinol). It is excess uric acid that crystalizes in your joints that is causing your pain.

Good luck.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 07:52 PM
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7. I'm really sorry to hear this, my dear underpants...
Pain changes everything, and not for the better.

Please take care of yourself...

:hug:
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 07:53 PM
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8. cherries.
eat them.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 09:29 PM
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17. I swear by this
Costco has dried cherries by the heueueuge bag, and R.W. Knudsen makes a Just Black Cherry juice. Lots of water to flush your system. Shortens the duration by days.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 05:39 AM
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23. My wife just loaded me up with cherries
and I can feel the difference immediately.

My brother, not a gout sufferer, has been telling me about this for a while. I should have listened - see sooner or later listening to him HAD to pay off.
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 07:25 AM
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26. The good thing is you don't need to get your brother a
birthday or christmas present. The "I told you so!" should last at least two gift cycles.;)

Good luck with the cherries.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 12:05 PM
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40. pure cherry juice, drink it and limit shellfish and spinach!
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 08:30 AM
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27. I guess I can cross gout off the list of things I'll ever get. I eat cherries like
it's going out of style. If I ever have the opportunity to visit the PAC NW in July I take it because I know I can gorge myself on the most amazing cherries the whole trip. I live one state away from Michigan but somehow the cherries from Washington are a cut above.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 08:00 PM
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9. Allopurinol?
Edited on Thu Aug-05-10 08:00 PM by hippywife
I take them to prevent uric acid kidney stones which are a form of gout. I have a friend who takes them for the type of situation you are describing. He can't eat much red meat or shellfish at all without an attack like that. They work and are very inexpensive.

:hi:
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 09:15 PM
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13. Very true
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 09:18 PM
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16. Worst. Drug. EVER.
Even if I weren't allergic to it, it's a horrible drug. The colcicine is better.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 06:19 AM
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25. Why is that?
I've taken it for years with no side effects at all. :shrug:
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 04:17 AM
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36. It's pretty toxic, and I hate because I'm violently allergic to it!
I was tried on all of the drugs for urinary pH-related problems, and they're all pretty awful plus they didn't work! Colchicine does work for me with the fewest side effects, though it doesn't specifically raise my pH.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 04:56 AM
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20. That is the treatment my rheumatologist is going to put me on
appointment next thursday. She wanted to start it about a year ago but I failed to follow through. Stoopid me.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 08:10 PM
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10. Ask for a uric acid blood test
My attacks had been getting progressively worse. When a blood test showed high uric acid my new dostor put me on alopurinol. My uric acid level is down 40% and I haven't had another attack. Gout is debilitating over time. If you aren't taking alopurinol, talk to your doc. It seems to have made a big difference for me.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 05:40 AM
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24. My rheumatologist wanted to put me on that a while ago
like an idiot I didn't follow through.

Cherries- just ate about 10 of them and can feel the effects immediately, that an taking my morning dose of colchicine.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 08:15 PM
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11. I am so sorry *hugs*
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 08:18 PM
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12. rest forrest rest
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 09:17 PM
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15. If you drink beer quit - cut my gout down to near none
add in some cherries and it is nearly gone.
BTW thank your parents for the gout.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 04:58 AM
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21. I've had about 3 whole beers in two years
I watch my diet a lot. These do just flare up from time to time though.

I ran in cleats recently - oh and kicked footballs- probably not a good idea. DAMN!
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 09:44 PM
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18. I've been through this for years, and I know how debilitating this can be.
Make sure you get a blood test that will verify uric acid crystals.

My doctor prescribed prednisone. It made me better in a few hours. It's a steroid, so you can't take it long term. He sent me to a specialist who drained my gouty knee. Yeah, with a long and very large needle. Painful but worth it.

As another poster suggested, black cherries. Eat just a handful a day. Out of season, you can get them dried or drink black cherry juice.

Since I learned this, I haven't had a major gout attack. Yeah, I still drink beer sometimes.

There's a bit of stigma associated with gout; everyone assumes you are an alcoholic.

It's not true.

I'm 55 now, and I've been OK and gout-free for about two years now.

PS - Tomato-based food sets me off, as well as seafood. So does cured meat (nitrates and nitrites) and makes my big toe hurt. No pepperoni sticks or beef jerky.

Good luck.

If you keep up the cherries (cranberries and cranberry juice help, too) and limit your intake of the bad stuff (cured meat, tomato products, and, oh yeah, potatoes, too) I'd bet you have relief, too.

But yeah, in the short term you need the drugs for pain relief.

Long term use of this stuff is hard on your liver and kidneys, ibuprofen too as well as all anti-inflammatory drugs.

Good luck, underpants.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 05:01 AM
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22. I have done everything I was supposed to do.....
except I do like to have some bourbon from time to time (still probably too much) and my brother has been telling me about cherries and truthfully I haven't followed through on that.

I watch my diet like a hawk.
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 09:56 PM
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19. Real apple cider vinegar, like the Bragg's brand. And black cherries. A couple pounds of them.
Do a tablespoon of that horrible vinegar every few hours, and eat all the cherries you can. Within a day to 36 hours you'll be able to wear shoes again.

I haven't had a gout attack in about 7 years, but the three I did have were treated this way and were over very fast.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 08:32 AM
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28. I agree, and I'm sorry. I was having wisdom tooth pain a few weeks ago and even
after I got the pain to subside with pain relievers and a hundred other remedies, I was just exhausted from it. When I got the tooth pulled last Friday I was tired that day but the next day felt like a million bucks.

Pain is exhausting. It really makes me feel for people who live with chronic pain.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 10:01 AM
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29. Eat Cherries
http://www.quickcare.org/musc/cherries-and-gout.html

I realize this is not a substitute for good medical health care but my stepfather swears by it.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 10:09 AM
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30. haven't had one in 7.5 years now, knock on wood.
Colchicine was a miracle drug, aside from the "stomach will eat itself" thing. Colchicine, pepto, and a good bag of weed made the last attack bearable. Cutting out most red meat and red wine seems to have diminished my prospects for a future bout. Again with the knocking on wood...

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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 12:30 PM
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31. I take celery seed
capsules are available at a good health food store. Attacks have been FAR less frequent and severe.
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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 03:33 PM
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32. Ouch
Hope you feel better soon.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 03:36 PM
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33. feel better bro
I am all steriod-ed up these days so I feel good..
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 03:39 PM
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34. Gotta concur with the advice re: cherries. They really help.
Got some nice black cherries at the local Ukrops-er-Martin's today.

mikey_the_rat
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 07:21 AM
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38. Yes I am going to make them a regular part of my day now
Well I guess running is out for at least a week....going swimming instead. A week of me and "the line" to look forward to.

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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 09:20 PM
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35. HEY UP - how's the gout?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 07:18 AM
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37. MUCH better as of last night
I ate 110 cherries and drank some cherry juice and my coworker brought me some crutches which immensely alleviated much of the pain.

I can walk up and down the stairs in our tri-level without having to pause, talk myself into it, and then count through painful winces.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 12:06 PM
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41. stay away from spinach and shell fish!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 03:19 PM
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42. I have re-read my eating list
I forgot about spinach and I love spinach.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 10:12 AM
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39. oh i am sorry, UP - hope you feel better.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 08:18 PM
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43. I am very, very sorry.
Yes, you are right. Pain is very tiring. :(

:hug:

I hope it passes quickly and doesn't ever come back. Feel better soon.
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