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mike r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 04:46 PM
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New Study Claims 'Cougars' Do Not Exist
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2011796,00.html

New Study Claims 'Cougars' Do Not Exist
By Tim Padgett

For a decade now we've been chronicling the emergence of cougars in the dating jungle: women, usually over 40, who hunt younger men, or cubs, and shower them with a tantalizingly experienced kind of love — and lots of Abba music. There are cougar celebrities — 47-year-old Demi Moore married 32-year-old Ashton Kutcher — cougar books, cougar cruises and, perhaps the ultimate affirmation, cougar sitcoms, including the popular Cougar Town, starring real-life cougar Courteney Cox. What further proof do we need of this species' existence?

Michael Dunn isn't buying it. The noted psychology researcher at the University of Wales Institute in Cardiff has just released a study that he insists renders the cougar craze a "myth." After examining the age preferences expressed in 22,400 singles ads on popular dating websites in North America, Europe, Australia and Japan, he found no sizable cohort of women seeking younger men. To the contrary, the share of lionesses wanted men their own age or older. Nor did he find evidence for the proliferation of cubs: the overwhelming majority of men displayed their eons-old preference for younger women. "I do believe the cougar phenomenon is a myth and, yes, a media construct," Dunn, who specializes in human evolutionary psychology and mating behavior, told the Australian Associated Press.

But faster than Madonna can pick up a 21-year-old male model, self-identified cougars and their supporters are striking back. "I get angered by this silliness," says Valerie Gibson, the British-born, Toronto-based journalist whose best-selling 2001 book, Cougar: A Guide for Older Women Dating Younger Men, is considered the first to identify the wave that Dunn wants to debunk. Gibson, a self-described cougar who is over 40 but won't reveal just how much over, sees in studies by investigators like Dunn — who last year presented research that men who drive expensive cars really are more attractive to women — an anti-cougar bias. "Society has always told us that the older woman who is still sexual isn't supposed to exist," she says. "We should be wrapped in a shawl baking cookies for our grandchildren and all that crap."

What's more, a 2003 study by AARP found that while a not-surprising two-thirds of American men over 40 were dating younger women, an unexpected 34% of 40-and-older women were dating younger men. And 35% said they preferred that over dating same-age or older men. That study offers a more valid picture than Dunn's, Gibson insists, because it reflects the actual dating lives of older women, as opposed to what they're socially conditioned to tell dating websites. Dunn denies any misogynist agenda, even though, when asked last year if his car research suggested that women were shallow, he was quoted as saying, "Let's face it, there's evidence to support it." He also suggested to the Australian Associated Press that the cougar craze may well be fabricated by "the 'cougar' or 'toy boy' dating agencies themselves." But Rich Gosse, executive producer of CougarEvents.com in San Francisco, said his business wouldn't be growing — next month the International Cougar Convention will take place in London — if the number of cougar-cub relationships weren't burgeoning as well...



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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 05:01 PM
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1. 'Cougar' is a manufactured porn fantasy
Not that there's anything wrong with that...

But a fantasy it is

Just like 'Beat me whip me make me write bad checks!'
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 08:10 AM
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6. Tell that to my 40 year old best friend.
Recently divorced (for the 2nd time), and dating only
men under 25....

She says she tried to date men closer to her age, but
they had "too much baggage".

:crazy:

I asked her, what about HER baggage?

She said "That's what I mean, if you add our baggage together,
we're over limit."

She only wants to have FUN, after rushing into two
marriages.

C-O-U-G-A-R
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 11:02 AM
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8. Hey - I never said people don't act it out in real life!
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 05:02 PM
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2. So he looked at a bunch of singles ads and came to a conclusion?
Sounds legit to me!

:eyes:
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 10:16 PM
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3. When I was 50 (a few years ago), I was seeing a 35-year-old man.
Edited on Thu Aug-19-10 10:17 PM by Kat45
I'm seeing someone a couple of years older than me now, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't go out with a younger man again.

Edited to add: a few months ago, I noticed a cougar/cubs meetup group in my general area listed on the MeetUp site. Can't say I wasn't tempted.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 10:20 PM
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4. They never looked in the woods
There you'll find cougars, only not the kind they're talking about.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 07:40 AM
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5. I worked with a recently divorced woman in her mid 30's who stated
that she would only "date" men in their early 20's or late teens because only they had the "stamina" to
"ring her bell" the required number of times...

I think she was joking, but I was never sure...


mark
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The Midway Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 10:20 AM
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7. Yes they do.
I saw one in my dentist office this week. Re-ow-or.
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