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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 12:59 AM
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fuck (v.)
This is the longest entry I have ever seen at the Online Etymology Dictionary and for such a fun word, too! :D

fuck (v.)
until recently a difficult word to trace, in part because it was taboo to the editors of the original OED when the "F" volume was compiled, 1893-97. Written form only attested from early 16c. OED 2nd edition cites 1503, in the form fukkit; earliest appearance of current spelling is 1535 -- "Bischops ... may fuck thair fill and be vnmaryit" (Sir David Lyndesay, "Ane Satyre of the Thrie Estaits"), but presumably it is a much more ancient word than that, simply one that wasn't written in the kind of texts that have survived from O.E. and M.E. Buck cites proper name John le Fucker from 1278. The word apparently is hinted at in a scurrilous 15c. poem, titled "Flen flyys," written in bastard Latin and M.E. The relevant line reads:

Non sunt in celi
quia fuccant uuiuys of heli


"They (the monks) are not in heaven because they fuck the wives of (the town of) Ely." Fuccant is pseudo-Latin, and in the original it is written in cipher. The earliest examples of the word otherwise are from Scottish, which suggests a Scandinavian origin, perhaps from a word akin to Norwegian dialectal fukka "copulate," or Swedish dialectal focka "copulate, strike, push," and fock "penis." Another theory traces it to M.E. fyke, fike "move restlessly, fidget," which also meant "dally, flirt," and probably is from a general North Sea Germanic word; cf. M.Du. fokken, Ger. ficken "fuck," earlier "make quick movements to and fro, flick," still earlier "itch, scratch;" the vulgar sense attested from 16c. This would parallel in sense the usual M.E. slang term for "have sexual intercourse," swive, from O.E. swifan "to move lightly over, sweep" (see swivel). But OED remarks these "cannot be shown to be related" to the English word. Chronology and phonology rule out Shipley's attempt to derive it from M.E. firk "to press hard, beat."

Germanic words of similar form (f + vowel + consonant) and meaning 'copulate' are numerous. One of them is G. ficken. They often have additional senses, especially 'cheat,' but their basic meaning is 'move back and forth.' ... Most probably, fuck is a borrowing from Low German and has no cognates outside Germanic. (Liberman)

French foutre and Italian fottere look like the English word but are unrelated, derived rather from L. futuere, which is perhaps from PIE base *bhau(t)- "knock, strike off," extended via a figurative use "from the sexual application of violent action" (Shipley; cf. the sexual slang use of bang, etc.). Popular and Internet derivations from acronyms (and the "pluck yew" fable) are merely ingenious trifling. The O.E. word was hæman, from ham "dwelling, home," with a sense of "take home, co-habit." Fuck was outlawed in print in England (by the Obscene Publications Act, 1857) and the U.S. (by the Comstock Act, 1873). As a noun, it dates from 1670s. The word may have been shunned in print, but it continued in conversation, especially among soldiers during WWI.

It became so common that an effective way for the soldier to express this emotion was to omit this word. Thus if a sergeant said, 'Get your ----ing rifles!' it was understood as a matter of routine. But if he said 'Get your rifles!' there was an immediate implication of urgency and danger. (John Brophy, "Songs and Slang of the British Soldier: 1914-1918," pub. 1930)

The legal barriers broke down in the 20th century, with the "Ulysses" decision (U.S., 1933) and "Lady Chatterley's Lover" (U.S., 1959; U.K., 1960). Johnson excluded the word, and fuck wasn't in a single English language dictionary from 1795 to 1965. "The Penguin Dictionary" broke the taboo in the latter year. Houghton Mifflin followed, in 1969, with "The American Heritage Dictionary," but it also published a "Clean Green" edition without the word, to assure itself access to the lucrative public high school market.

The abbreviation F (or eff) probably began as euphemistic, but by 1943 it was being used as a cuss word, too. In 1948, the publishers of "The Naked and the Dead" persuaded Norman Mailer to use the euphemism fug instead. When Mailer later was introduced to Dorothy Parker, she greeted him with, "So you're the man who can't spell 'fuck' " (The quip sometimes is attributed to Tallulah Bankhead). Hemingway used muck in "For whom the Bell Tolls" (1940). The major breakthrough in publication was James Jones' "From Here to Eternity" (1950), with 50 fucks (down from 258 in the original manuscript). Egyptian legal agreements from the 23rd Dynasty (749-21 B.C.E.) frequently include the phrase, "If you do not obey this decree, may a donkey copulate with you!" (Reinhold Aman, "Maledicta," Summer 1977). Fuck-all "nothing" first recorded 1960.

Verbal phrase fuck up "to ruin, spoil, destroy" first attested c.1916. A widespread group of Slavic words (cf. Pol. pierdolić) can mean both "fornicate" and "make a mistake." Fuck off attested from 1929; as a command to depart, by 1944. Flying fuck originally meant "have sex on horseback" and is first attested c.1800 in broadside ballad "New Feats of Horsemanship." For the unkillable urban legend that this word is an acronym of some sort (a fiction traceable on the Internet to 1995 but probably predating that) see here, and also here. Related: Fucked; fucking. Agent noun fucker attested from 1590s in literal sense; by 1893 as a term of abuse (or admiration).

DUCK F-CK-R. The man who has the care of the poultry on board a ſhip of war. ("Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue," 1796)

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"If you do not obey this decree, may a donkey copulate with you!" :rofl:
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 01:06 AM
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1. "written in bastard Latin and M.E."...
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... "graywarrior" can be rightfully translated as "DuckFucker". ("Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue," 1796)

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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 01:19 AM
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2. That did cross my mind when presented with that definition!
You might want to get yourself a copy of that dictionary; maybe it should be a standard reference in the Library of The Lounge :hi:
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 08:34 AM
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3. Less of a mystery than where "boink" came from.
:evilgrin:

Then there's one Carlin used - "The Mongolian Clusterfuck". I think we can probably just stop bothering to trace that to a date earlier than the first time he performed the "expanded list of words you can't see on TV" skit. He did that skit at Carnegie in the mid 80's. I'm not sure about earlier than that. Until I saw the video tape I only new the "seven words" skit.

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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 10:57 AM
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4. I remember seeing that on HBO back then.
His list was many meters long! :rofl:

I see "boink" is a rather young word, though it may be related to "bonk" which is still relatively new considering the Latin, Greek and Sanskrit origins of many of our words :)
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 11:04 AM
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5. You have to listen to it over and over again because you miss a lot by laughing.
It wasn't even just the list. That was funny, but it really took Carlin's unique combination of inflections, timing, and facial expressions to pull it off. (Pun not really intended)

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OriginalGeek Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 11:57 AM
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6. My wife's friend went to see Carlin live
I think it was the late 80s or early 90s. And she brought me a T-Shirt with his picture on the font and on the back it just said "Simon Says....Go Fuck Yourself".


But my wife would never let me wear it.

Fuck.
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