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GTurck Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:02 PM
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Beware the cross-overs...
I have been told by several people that they are voting in the Texas primary as Democrats to keep Hillary Clinton off of the ballot and then will vote for McCain in the general election. WHOA?
This is getting silly. Now we real democrats have to worry about the bigots and haters in our midst. So before we get excited about this primary being so fantastic we better understand that not all our allies are our allies. Remember the enemy of my enemy is my friend - until they turn on me. That is what they plan do in November.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:03 PM
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1. Let them when 70% of the population as against Bush's war let McLame run on it.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:07 PM
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i think it is about 50% or over who now agree the surge is working and we
should stay to get the work done.

just saying----
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:57 PM
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11. "Some people say" all kinds of shit I call Bullshit on that 50% stat.. Are you at the right site?
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 03:59 PM by Vincardog
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:05 PM
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2. And Rush and others urge their followers to vote for Hillary. Silly season.
It goes both ways. All be over soon, though.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:07 PM
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4. It's duck season. No it's rabbit season.
Sure it IS silly season
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:27 PM
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12. Republicans selecting the Dem candidate is Silly Season
Mich and Florida Democrats should select the nominee.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:05 PM
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3. That could happen in any election where cross over voting
is possible. I am encouraged that I know so many republicans that ARE voting Obama in the GE as well.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:09 PM
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5. They loom larger in a primary
but come November, they won't amount to a hill of beans.

McCain is going to be his generation's Goldwater. Except that instead of Goldwater's going from hawk to social liberal on issues like gay rights, AIDs, etc. McCain is going in reverse.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:09 PM
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6. Did you ask those rethugs if they are convinced the illegal occupation
is a good thing? Did you try to talk some sense into them?

I suspect many people will vote for a Dem due to the past 8 bloody, destructive years under a rethug admin. I wouldn't sweat it too much.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:14 PM
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7. Those same people would come out in the GE JUST to vote against Hillary.
They might not be motivated to vote if she isn't on the ballot and they aren't wild about McLame.

That's why they want her off the ballot, because they think they will lose.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:14 PM
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8. Yes. Reach across the aisle to smack 'em upside the head.
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 02:15 PM by lumberjack_jeff
Do not meddle in our primary if you have no intention of supporting the nominee in the general.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:16 PM
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9. Dick Morris, now a GOP Operative, gave the Republicans their Marching Orders: Vote Obama
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:17 PM
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10. In seasons past, I occasionally registered Republican to vote against the evil of two lessors. . .
It was my belief at the time certain candidates had to be stopped at the earliest moment. I've since reassessed and feel affiliation more pertinent than repudiation. But I can see where some might believe they serve their cause by momentarily shifting alliance. It's why I favor closed primaries, where like me in bygone days a vote for someone hated requires change of registration, not merely a request for different paper. It would go far to keep the primaries untainted.
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GTurck Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:32 AM
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13. Ah, if that were only so..
Texas does have closed primaries and how you vote in them is stamped on your voter registration card. It is so partisan that the parties have separate tables at which to sign in and be checked out. Of course in the general election it will not be this way but obviously it hasn't helped and may have damaged the state by making party affiliation more important than principles and character.
I wish I could say that reasoning would change anything but I have only recently understood myself that our affiliations have as much to do with emotions and psychology as it does with reasoning. How common it is to hear one or the other side say that if only people used their common sense everyone would agree with them? Or that if you had and understood the facts as well as they you would vote the same way they do?
NOT SO! CAN'T BE!
I have been around a long time and the one thing I don't expect is perfection. That really should not be part of the equation. Rather than perfection I would opt for as close as possible to the best at hand and encourage that to stay principled and aware of changing circumstances for the best and most widely advantageous outcome. Oh yes and - transparency.
Thanks for all the feedback.
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