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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 03:32 PM
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How can I organize / unionize my workplace?
Hello DU!

I am an overworked caseworker that works for a contract agency that is funded by my counties department of social service and probation.

My agency does the same work that county employees do, just cheaper. We don't get cars, gas, phones, or a pension. We do the same work.

Recently, my agency increased our work load, an has made it nearly impossible to complete all assignments within a 40 hour work week. Generally the full time staff works about 50 hours, but newbies can never complete their work, even at 60 or 70 hours per week!

The county (unionized) employees would never be treated this way.

Is there a way to get representation by a union? I would love to explore this option.

Help me out DU!

Peace and low stress,
mdmc

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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 03:36 PM
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1. Here's one link (AFL-CIO)
http://www.aflcio.org/aboutunions/howto/index.cfm

I know I just saw some other links yesterday, but I'm on my way out the door. If I find them, I'll post here too.

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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 03:39 PM
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2. thanks...
peace and low stress....
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 03:41 PM
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4. Another link
Edited on Fri Jul-15-05 03:41 PM by deutsey
http://www.ranknfile-ue.org/org_steps.html

I know I said I'm out the door, but I really believe in unions, so whatever I can do to help...

:thumbsup:
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 03:39 PM
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3. First, the person who is doing the call for unionizing has to have a
spotless record, or they will fire him/her. They will use the stupidest of reasons to do so.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 03:42 PM
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5. Which is why you contact an
appropriate representative organization and get them to come in.

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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 03:54 PM
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6. That's a good idea
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 03:56 PM
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7. You can get a union to do a "card check"
where they stand out by the gate and hand cards to each of the workers. If enough of them sign the cards authorizing the union to represent them, then the federal labor board holds an election. I've been though a couple of organizing drives like this, and you will witness the UGLIEST of human emotions that you will ever see from those that oppose the union. Even if you've been friends for years, you'll suddenly become a pariah in their eyes for supporting the union. I just don't get it...
AFSCME might be interested in representing you. Possibly SEIU. I worked in a manufacturing plant and the teamsters and the UAW tried to organize us.
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TeamsterDem Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:19 AM
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8. Organizing
Hi MDMC,

I wish I could've responded sooner to your post, but work has got me going crazy with hours. Hopefully you'll wind up reading this, and more importantly by far, hopefully it helps ...

The first course of action is to select a union which has a background dealing with folks in your line of work. As has already been recommended, AFSCME and SEIU are good choices. SEIU generally has a fairly strong reputation, and is more skilled in situations like yours with respect to the fact that you don't directly work for the county.

There are two ways unions typically use to organize workers: (1) traditional National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) elections in which 50% of workers plus one must vote in the affirmative for union representation; and (2) card-check drives in which the union secures an agreement from management prior to conducting the organizing drive which guarantees that when the union has 50% +1 of the employees, the employer will recognize the union and commence bargaining.

Your situation is kinda unique, as you're essentially performing work for a county through a corporate intermediary (or contractor if you like, but I just love my fancy wording though ). Depending on the political environment in your state/locale, as well as the size of the bargaining unit you're in, the union could perhaps pressure politicians to support a card-check drive; although that's much easier than it sounds. Additionally, if troubles arise, the same could be done to pressure the pols to, in turn, pressure the company to negotiate fairly - that's actually easier than asking them to support a card check drive, as the latter only entails asking them to intervene in a potentially-damaging economic situation (e.g. a strike). That parlance is particularly useful when dealing with Republicans, of course their animosity to labor unions in general makes any discussion difficult.

When you contact an organizer, they'll certainly be able to help you and explain the process a bit better, and in more detail. But here's some ideas that'll probably speed things along with the organizer, as well as give him/her better insight into your particular situation.

1. Take notes on your home time (don't do it at work) regarding specific grievances you have with the company. Hours of work, forced overtime, speed-up mandates, rude/abusive managers/co-workers, dangerous working conditions, sexual harrassment, salary/benefits, pay schedules, workplace democracy ... all of these are things the organizer is going to want and need to know.

Notes are important because they allow you to actually remember everything that's happening. Sometimes when people come and talk to us, I think they get a bit intimidated because they've never done that sort of thing before, and while it doesn't "scare" them, it can be one of those "new" things in life which kinda throws you off just a touch.

2. Don't feel as though your grievances are petty, or that perhaps you shouldn't mention some specific issue because you think you're "nitpicking." The fact is that unless you seek to address all of your problems, you'll wind up kicking yourself later for not mentioning it, especially if you get stuck working under those conditions even after a successful contract. There are *NO* stupid issues; they're all important.

3. Don't be surprised if the organizer doesn't visibly react to your story. Trust me, we've heard it *ALL* before; there's not a whole lot that can shock a veteran organizer. You don't need to "color-up" any of your problems, they stand sufficient on their own merit.

An example: I was trying to organize a large unit of (mostly) burly truck drivers. One of them approached me and asked if we could speak in private. The guy was somewhere around 6'4, and approached 260 pounds. To be honest, he was rather intimidating. As the situation would have it, his main problem with the company was that management didn't take his sexual harrassment claim against another male employee seriously - the alleged harrasser was my size: about 5'7, maybe 170 soaking wet.

Through the course of investigating, it turns out that the small guy did indeed sexually harrass this enormous guy, so we filed charges against the company for failing to adequately protect its workforce against sexual harrassment (we won).

Eventually curiosity got the best of me - and the large fella and I had developed a rapport - so I had to ask why he didn't knock the guy's block off. It turns out he's an ex-Marine with so much training that he'd have been prosecuted not just for battery, but battery with a deadly weapon: his hands.

The point of what I'm saying is that organizers have dealt with almost every conceivable workplace issue out there, and sometimes become somewhat jaded to just how cruel employers can be. Don't take offense or feel that your story is less than important. It isn't.

Good luck to you. If you'd like any other advice, please don't hesitate to send me a message. I'd be happy to help.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 07:15 PM
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9. Long term help organizing: AAR - it gets union idea out to co-workers and
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 07:39 PM by oscar111
the general public both.
AAR is Air America Radio, our new answer to Rush Limbaugh.

It persuades all of our views with no effort, no "talking-till-blue-in-the-face" effort.

So for long term help, get a YahooGroups free forum, and name it for your town and AAR.

this allows you to network with others in your area, to get AAR to get a station in your town.

Or, some existing union local might buy a station and put AAR on, the way the Anchorage ALASKA IBEW local just did.

for sure, it is great if the general population of your area is converted to prounion views. Then they elect local officials who are prounion. Also, your coworkers will spontaneously agree with your lead in getting a union.

PS first thing a dem congress ought to do, after ending homlssness, is nationalize all the contract jobs that have lately destroyed part of our fine public sector. Privatizing is a flop. Toss it.

Last i read, 2O yrs ago, Sweden was 90 % union, and in heavy industry, 95%. So that is what we can shoot for . There, only the psychotic droolers had failed to sign up LOL.

Here, in 1890's or so, the Knights of Labor union, was so wildly popular that they had to limit new applicants. Ended due to split, when elitist skilled craft types split.

Also hurt by a law banning organizing those not in a workplace, into a labor union. IIRC. KOL gave us the secret ballot and the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Bet you never heard of them in hi school history.

Guess why. "god made idiots. that was for practice. Then he made School Boards." Twain.

Unions created the US middle class. Gave us the weekend off idea, too. Before, six year old boys and GIRLS TOO, pulled coal carts up and out of mines in the US, 185O's.

Late thirties and early forties were the peak of union organizing growth.
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