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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 06:30 PM
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Two candidates propose 18 cent "gas tax holiday" about two weeks ago ...
and today, the news is that gas (on the average) is up 17 cents per gallon ...

go figure ...
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:18 PM
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1. Remember the shrub guy gave big oil a 15% tax cut a month before big oil started its
latest price gouging against america drivers. Why doesn't anyone remember that at the time it was supposed to lower the price of gas then?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:31 AM
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2. I remember, not long after Katrina, the oil companies cried poor, and
Congress and Bush pushed a massive tax break for them ... two weeks later, they announced record profits ... not just recently, but in their entire history ...
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JoinOrDie Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:51 PM
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3. A different gas idea?
If Sen. Clinton's plan for a moratorium on consumer gas taxes was enacted and the oil companies took the hit, some economists believe that the oil companies will simply up the price to make up the difference. Bush says there is no answer (wow, what a shocker). I think that the government should simply set a limit, a percent, on the amount of money that oil companies can charge above cost on oil. I would also like to see "excess profits" taxed at 75 cents on the dollar. I understand that ideas like this have been attempted before, just ask New Yorkers about rent control, but I don't see how Exxon could create a black market for oil. Maybe I'm being naive???

I also enjoyed Sen. McCain's recent comments concerning corn ethanol. Sen. McCain argues that corn is too valuable as a food stuff. Maybe he's right but maybe before we start talking about how we can't afford to lose corn as a food stuff in order to use corn ethanol as a fuel source, we should start talking about not paying farmers NOT to grow crops or to burn excess crops. I live in Montana, I know farmers who grow absolutely nothing and get a big check from the government each year for doing so. Perhaps we could encourage such people, in areas where corn can grow, to start growing corn.

I don't know if it all matters anyway. We are witnessing a bureaucracy crumbling under its own weight, a President who has destroyed the economy and our image and, worst of all, a new generation that could easily identify Paris Hilton's dog but not British P.M. Brown or al Sadr. We live in a time where people who are "informed" usually pick one issue they identify with and disregard all the other issues. One has only to look at how many poor white people vote Republican. Maybe they want gun rights or less taxes or are Pro-Life but what they don't understand is that Republicans would prefer to cut all funding for the poor, would seek to destroy the middle class, etc.. I've lost all hope for our country. I think there is going to be a revolution. Hopefully it's peaceful. But there is no possibility for our country to continue down the current path and there is no hope of the government reforming itself. The question is not if but when. I don't look forward to it but I see no other alternative.

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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:08 PM
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4. McCain has no idea what he's talking about...
the corn used in ETOH production is #2 field corn, often used as feed. But Wet and dry distillers grains feed not just cattle, but poultry and swine as well. You would NOT put #2 corn on your table. McCain's idea of paying framers for growing nothing is actually "welfare", something the RW is adamantly opposed to. Finally, corn is on the out as an ETOH production source, as Fluidized Bed Reactor's come on line, and other form of cellulose become available.

Republicans, at least the neo-cons, want to spend a lot of money, but only on what "they' want. they have become "Borrow and Spend" fanatics, and have bankrupted the nation. The party of "Fiscal Responsibility", is anything but.

Give McAin another 72 hours, he'll change his miod, he has no compass at all, he is adrift and apparently just as stupid as bush.
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JoinOrDie Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:32 AM
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5. Re:McCain doesn't know what he's talking about
Well said sir. I've been a bit busy with finals and end of the semester preparations but didn't he McCain recently say that he would continue Bush's economic policy because he thinks the economy is doing well? Didn't he also say that the way the war is being prosecuted is favorable? I know that there are going to be people who vote for McCain....those people are the real enemies of freedom.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 01:02 PM
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6. McCain also told people he knew little to nothing about the
economy, nad has tried desperately to backpedal from his "100 Years of War" gaffe, and those are just two of the some 75+ gaffes he's made that haven't been covered.

The man is a loser, and the very first debate w/either Obama or HRC will show him to be a complete buffonn.

He's escaped scrutiny, but not for much longer...:)
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