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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:00 PM
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Here It Comes (GE)


This is what is going to happen, as I noted in BlogTalkRadio yesterday afternoon, if "The Bezzle" is not removed from our system NOW.



Take a look at that folks. That's a snapshot of today's volume for June GE $2.50 PUTs.

That's over 52,000 contracts traded today, controlling 5.2 million shares.

They were purchased for about 30 cents, which means that the price has to be under $2.20 for them to go "in the money".

This is a bankruptcy bet on General Electric by the third week of June.

That's right - General Electric.

Folks, this is precisely what I was talking about last night on BlogTalkRadio. Go listen to my monologue on "The Bezzle", right at the front of the show, very carefully.

This is precisely what has happened with many financial institutions already and what happened to hundreds of companies during the 00-03 Tech Wreck.

General Electric is a stalwart of our financial and industrial system. A bankruptcy by GE would be catastrophic for our economy and capital markets. The follow-on damage with suppliers and customers would be even worse.

If "The Bezzle" is not brought under control right damn now this is what is going to to happen to company after company. We WILL see the S&P trade at one hundred if we start to see firms like GE go down the toilet.

Ladies and Gentlemen, Legislators and President Obama, your time is running out to change direction.

The number of people who have told me that I am wasting my time continues to grow.

You folks who are sending me those emails are missing the point of my activities in this regard.

It is my intention to guarantee that these actions and intentional and willful blindness is documented so that when these failures occur, which I have predicted and provided a path by which they can be prevented, occur due to the intentional and willful malfeasance of our lawmakers and policy "wonks", the people can correctly hold to account the people responsible for their unemployment, homelessness and hunger.

When firms like GE come under attack like this what I am talking about here is coming - imminently.

Either behavior changes RIGHT NOW or the outcome will become inevitable.

http://market-ticker.org/archives/846-Here-It-Comes-GE.html

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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:11 PM
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1. GE played the game too...
They are going to get hurt by their sleazy sub-prime credit cards and other activity in their finance arm.

The non-finance arm has done quite well.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:23 PM
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3. If this is true, it's a Black Swan.
Edited on Tue Mar-03-09 12:36 PM by SlowDownFast
At least as far as I'm concerned.

I have frequented financial forums and news, especially concerning this crisis, for a year and a half - and have come across ALOT of speculation about ALOT of things.

Nothing I've come across speculated this.

The iceburg seen above the water is nowhere near as big as the unseen part of it below the water.

This is how it happens:

Blind-sided.

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 02:37 PM
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12. My grandmother came from wealth, rode out the Depression
and only about a third of her stocks survived. She had a rough two years but emerged from it quite a comfortable woman by her death in the early 1950s.

Nothing about a crash like this one will be predictable other than the overall dynamic of the crash, itself. That means it will be impossible to tell which stocks survive and which don't. It will be impossible to tell which places to hide assets did the job until it's long over and we count up what everybody has left. What we do know is that people who rush into things en masse tend to outsmart themselves in the long run.

The real hell of these things is their unpredictable nature at our own level.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:14 PM
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2. I did not ride the bus today.
What can we extrapolate from that?
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:37 PM
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4. Icelands GDP just went down...
Apparently their education system was financed from a hedge fund that was invested in the ownership of your municipal bus system. Thanks a lot you insensitive clod!
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:32 PM
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9. Good one.
:rofl:

Took me a minute...

;-)
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:41 PM
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5. That your post is utter nonsense in relation to the thread. n/t
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 10:30 AM
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17. Tut, tut, tut...
GE may be under "short attack".
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:47 PM
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6. $1.6 million bet
$0.30 is the option price per share, but all contracts are traded in lots of 100. So 100x16k = $1.6 million on the table.
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FieldsBlank Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:00 PM
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7. Is GE too big to fail?
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:28 PM
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8. I thought that GE Credit was "bankruptcy remote" from GE
Some of this sounds fishy. First of all the bet and number of shares is small compared to GE overall.

Also, I thought that GE Credit (the finance arm) was bankruptcy remote from GE (that means that if either goes down, the other doesn't have to).

GE has tons of government contracts for military hardware so it's hard to believe that it's "going down" without a hell of a lot more evidence.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:44 PM
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10. Since over 1/2 of GE's revenue is derived from financial services...


SNIP

Since over half of GE's revenue is derived from financial services, it is arguably a financial company with a manufacturing arm. It is also one of the largest lenders in countries other than the United States, such as Japan.

SNIP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Electric







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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:49 PM
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11. another angle:
Edited on Tue Mar-03-09 01:59 PM by SlowDownFast

SNIP

This is about the SAME PROCESS that went on in the 00-03 Tech Wreck. They even came after CISCO during that time!

The problem now is that with CDS these people can place that bet and then FORCE the outcome. There is absolutely nothing to prevent it, and it is now rotating through firms that CANNOT be allowed to fail or we are completely and utterly fucked.

SNIP

The problem isn't buying the PUTs.

Its the ability to buy the PUTs and then through an unregulated entity such as a hedgie in the Caymans start forcing spreads wider on CDS with NO CAPITAL BEHIND THEM.

This is how AIG got fucked but consider this - if I can buy an INFINITE number of PUTs without having to actually show that I have any money to pay for the trade, I can force the stock price to zero, since the seller of that PUT will short to hedge.

If there is no limit to the amount of pressure I can apply I can GUARANTEE that the bet pays - especially if I can force the price down far enough to fuck their funding costs.

SNIP

...no, it's through the CDS market. Force their borrowing costs through the roof, then BOOM, then collect on the puts (where you actually have the capital to back the bet)

SNIP

You force the action through the CDS market.

This line of attack works on anyone who needs to fund in the short-term paper market as you can force the ratings downgrade which destroys their access at reasonable rates.

It will happen company-by-company to every firm with funding requirements until and unless "The Bezzle" is forced out of the system.

This is EXACTLY the path that was taken during the 00-03 Bear Market. Speculative attacks were mounted on company after company, denying them access to capital, and they folded.

Yes, MOST of those firms deserved to die. But a fair number of firms that could have otherwise lived were taken out and shot too.

SNIP

"...but the Fed is backing GE's commercial paper."

SNIP

...access to that facility depends on the "AAA" rating.

Non-AAA commercial paper cannot be financed through the CPFF at The Fed.


SNIP

Moody's already warned they may whack it.


thread link: http://www.tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=85656&page=1




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960 Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 07:45 PM
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13. I hate to be dense, but can you explain what the bezzle is?
Maybe I'm just too tired today, but I'm not quite getting it.
Thanks in advance.
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704wipes Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 10:07 PM
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14. yeah explain the bezzle please and
Edited on Tue Mar-03-09 10:09 PM by 704wipes
If GE goes under that is a LOT of defense manufacturing, maybe even most of what is left in the US. Because remember they KEPT all the old RCA defense manufacturing when they bought RCA back in the 80's, even though Pete Peterson on the board of RCA at the time saw to it that they absolutely trashed (fire-saled) the rest of of RCA's holdings many of which his next little venture, BLACKSTONE, ended up with in one way or another until Blackstone flipped as many of them as they could. That is why Pete Peterson is the eternal fucking bastard of all time in American Capitalism. Wish we could pin a crime on that old bastard before I die, and before he dies.

I think he has to belong in jail for something, and I hope to live to see it.
Because he seems to always be around the edges of the scene of the crime, and money disappearing.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 04:32 AM
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15. The Bezzle
posted in it's entirety with permission of the author:



The Challenge Before America

Thursday night, readers of The Ticker are aware, I gave a speech while receiving the AIM 2009 Grassroots award in which I dealt with "The Bezzle" within our modern finance system.

I wish to spend today's Ticker focusing on that concept - what it means for the broader economy - and why it is absolutely critical that our government and regulators put a stop to it - right here and now.

First, some facts - some 2/3rds of all capital in the marketplace, whether in the form of credit or cash, is private. Some of it is owned by people like you and I, some by sovereign funds (e.g. Saudi Princes) and some by large foreign and domestic institutional interests (e.g. Pension funds.)

All of this capital has one thing in common: It cannot be forced to enter or stay in any particular market. It is, in fact, entirely possible for that capital to decide to head straight for "the mattress" (that is, to remain in cash) at any point in time, or to allocate itself in any particular asset class it so chooses.

Policymakers are incapable of replacing this capital with public funds (e.g. "new reserves", TARP or other such silliness.) To put this in proper perspective some numbers are in order - with some $50 trillion in total private and public debt outstanding in the United States the debt base alone involved here is roughly $30 trillion in private capital.

This is why The Fed's and Treasury's "commitment" of some $10 trillion (thus far) in loan guarantees and direct spending has done nothing to stem this crisis - and they can't possibly come up with another $20 trillion without collapsing the bond market and destroying both The Fed and The Government.

Policymakers must realize that there is exactly one - and only one - way out of this mess.

"The Bezzle" must be eradicated.

I fully realize that this is extremely difficult politically, but let's face the facts here.

Every "private capital source" that has been enticed into this morass over the last two years has been destroyed, including Warren Buffett (Goldman Sachs and others) and The Saudis (Citigroup among others.)

Then you have Bernie Madoff and Stanford Financial, two alleged frauds that were "known" to the government more than ten years ago and yet were either not investigated or intentionally allowed to continue to operate, robbing people of literal billions of dollars.

Finally, you have AIG which reported a $61.66 billion loss, or $22.95 a share - for a stock trading under two bits. Stripping out capital losses and "accounting issues" you'd still have a loss of $37.9 billion, or $14.17/share. The government has "agreed" to provide another $30 billion to the firm in addition to the previous $150 billion that has been sucked into a black hole. Once again AIG has been deemed "a systemically significant failing institution" that has to be propped up, according to Treasury.

And who were the beneficiaries? Goldman, Merrill, and now overseas banks. Instead of putting the firm into receivership and running down its portfolio over time, forcing the losses to be netted and taken, we are instead rewarding "The Bezzle" by protecting those who did imprudent and even outrageous things with unlimited taxpayer dollars.

Every last one of those "investments" has been wrecked as a direct consequence of "The Bezzle" - that is, our government's refusal to uphold the law and force the truth to be disclosed both publicly and to investors. Our government and its agencies have gone so far as to intentionally mislead in many cases, including claims related to nationalization of banks and respect for capital structures just before people were wiped out in investments that should have had preference.

What's worse, in some cases such as AIGs, not only has "The Bezzle" ripped off private investors it is also ripping off the taxpayers - multiple times - with no indication that we're going to stop this course of action any time soon!

The market no longer sees these "rescues" as positive - it now sees them as what they in fact are: coverups for papering over raw fraud and abuse, and thus when each new "rescue" is announced the market tanks instead of stabilizing.

Fact is that intentional and willful misconduct by our government agencies, both as acts of omission and commission, has resulted in these firms, institutions and nations suffering crippling losses.

These acts of malfeasance and misfeasance in government agencies include (but are not limited to):

* "23A Exemption" letters
* Willful and improper classification of funds (IndyMac) which kept the FDIC from taking enforcement action in a timely fashion
* Willful removal of leverage limits (championed by and granted as a consequence of Henry Paulson's request before he joined Treasury; every one of the 5 firms that has blown up had 2x or more the formerly legal limit)
* Willful removal of bank leverage limits and reserve ratios by The Fed and Congress in permitting "sweeps" along with allowing The Fed authority to set reserve ratios wherever it would like, including to zero.
* Willful failure to police CDS margins and capital adequacy (e.g. AIG and others) thereby leading firms to be deeply insolvent yet continuing to operate as if nothing was wrong - until the cash ran out and we suddenly had a systemic crisis.
* Willful failure to enforce suitability regulations on mortgage lenders, along with intentional preemption of state predatory lending laws.
* Willful blindness related to the blatant and outrageous false statements made by both lenders and borrowers; the essence of "liar loans."
* Willful blindness related to both Madoff and Stanford Financial
* Willful blindness related to ratings agency conflicts of interest, "ratings shopping" and known-flawed ratings models.
* Willful blindness with regards to firms selling securities to customers which they were shorting at the same time - without disclosing this fact to the customer they were marketing to.
* Refusal to take action related to the false statements of executives on the health of their firms on national TV networks such as CNBC, when reliance on those statements led to complete wipeouts (Bear Stearns and Lehman)
* Misleading statements related to the health of Fannie and Freddie made by administration officials, leading to near-total losses for both common and preferred shareholders.
* Most recently, misleading statements related to the intended path for banks and capital adequacy, including Citibank.

These private sources of capital have quite reasonably withdrawn from the marketplace. They will not return until they can be assured that losses they suffer will result only from their own poor investment decisions and not from willful concealment of losses and even fraud by those in whom they invest nor from changes in the rules imposed by fiat from Washington DC. These private capital sources also want to see indictments, prosecutions and imprisonment - along with ejection of the parties responsible in both private enterprise and our government.

This is a serious problem for our capital markets and economy generally as without this private capital we are doomed to a massive economic contraction. Conservatively speaking, assuming our government can actually fund the $9-10 trillion they've promised, which I believe is a pure fantasy (it would represent nearly a tripling of the public float of US Debt!) we would suffer a 30% contraction in GDP over the next 18-24 months.

If they cannot fund those commitments much beyond the $1 trillion already spent, the contraction would be more on the order of 50%.

This would take us back to roughly 1994 levels in GDP terms, looking at constant dollars, a setback of some 15 years.

The damage, however, would be much worse than it appears at first blush, because in conjunction with the expansion in GDP state and local governments, along with government spending, have expanded, expecting that "GDP never goes down" (doesn't that sound familiar to those who believe that "house prices never go down"?)

Were we to contract to a $7 trillion GDP, for example, our current federal budget would reach nearly half of GDP! This would be impossible to sustain as tax revenues would collapse under such a scenario.

We have exactly one opportunity to stop this, and that opportunity is now.

Government simply must stop "The Bezzle" in all parts of our economy and capital markets, and must do so right here, right now, today.

If we fail to demand this as Americans or our government fails to implement this across the board then we will suffer a Depression worse than the 1930s.

This is not conjecture.

It is not a prediction, nor drawn from how I "feel".

This is mathematics; it is a fact that we cannot possibly maintain anything close to our current standard of living unless private capital decides to re-enter our marketplace - a decision that government cannot force.

The consequences of an economic Depression of this magnitude are almost too serious to contemplate. They include unemployment topping 20%, an average annual income decrease for Americans of some 30% (for those who remain employed!), a 70-80% decrease in retirement accounts such as IRAs and 401ks and the decimation of both private and public pensions, resulting in a reduction in benefits of 50% or more.

Should government attempt to "replace" that private capital the result will be a bond market collapse. This too is inevitable; into an environment of falling tax receipts (down 15% already) foreign governments and investors would have to be insane to continue purchasing US Treasury debt.

THAT event, should it occur, would result in The Federal Government being forced to contract to 1/3rd of its current size almost literally overnight. The only way to accomplish this would be to entirely eliminate all Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid funding, cut Defense spending by 75%, and cut all remaining discretionary programs by 50%.

Needless to say such an event would be catastrophic for our society - far worse than a "mere" Depression. In fact, that latter outcome has a very high probability of destabilizing our government and political system entirely.

Let me be crystal clear: the very real possibility exists that our government could collapse.

The time to play games and fiddle hoping for a turn in the housing market or some other miracle has passed. Bernanke himself said if the financial system cannot be stabilized our economy will not recover.

He is correct - but our financial system, including both credit and stock markets, cannot stabilize (say much less recover) until and unless private capital re-enters the market.

That simply will not happen until "The Bezzle" is driven out.

We either act now or suffer the consequences - the utter destruction of our middle class, a collapsed stock market with the DOW headed to 3,000 or worse and the S&P 500 headed into the 400 or lower range, unemployment topping 20% and GDP falling by 30% or more, complete destruction of both private and state-run pension systems, and a very real possibility that our nation collapses.

Your choice America.

This is math - not politics. Put the partisan political crap away - it is not only inappropriate but at this time in our nation's history it is insanely destructive - and instead do the right thing.

http://market-ticker.org/archives/841-The-Challenge-Before-America.html


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960 Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 02:03 PM
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19. Thanks. We're probably screwed then because
they're not going to start being honest, and private capital will continue to flow from the markets.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 10:08 AM
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16. In brief terms
The "bezzle" is the song and dance that pretends that people are telling the truth when they aren't, basically. When the chairman of Lehman announced days before its collapse that it was in good shape, that's a prime example of 'the bezzle'. Treasury secretaries and Fed chairman going before Congress and lying under oath saying the economy is fine, it might recover this year, and so on - that's more 'bezzle'.

To be even briefer, one could say that 'the bezzle' is synonymous with fraud and deceit conducted by those who are convinced they will be able to get away with it.
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960 Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 02:02 PM
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18. Thank you so much. I just wasn't getting the term.
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