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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 07:36 PM
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Geithner relied too much on assurances from banking executives that their firms were safe and sound.
From http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/02/AR2009040203227.html">The Washington Post:

As Crisis Loomed, Geithner Pressed But Fell Short
Before Timothy Geithner became Treasury chief, he regulated major U.S. banks. Now he says: "We're having a major financial crisis in part because of failures of supervision."

Timothy Geithner made one of his most visible moves as a supervisor of the U.S. banking system. He summoned the nation's top financial firms and their regulators to streamline an antiquated system that threatened Wall Street's boom

Billions of dollars worth of financial instruments known as credit derivatives were being traded daily, as banks and investors worldwide tried to protect against losses on increasingly complex and risky financial bets. But the buying and selling of these exotic instruments was stuck in a pencil-and-paper era. Geithner, then head of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, pressed 14 major financial firms to build an electronic network that would cut backlogs and make the market easier to monitor.

Geithner's summit, held at the New York Fed's fortress-like headquarters near Wall Street, was a success. By fall 2006, the new system had all but eliminated the logjam, helping derivatives trade more efficiently. One financial industry newsletter honored Geithner as part of a "Dream Team" for his leadership of the effort.

Yet as Geithner and the New York Fed worked to solve narrow mechanical issues in the derivatives market, they missed clear signs of a catastrophe in the making. When the housing market collapsed, derivatives stoked the fires that ignited inside some of the biggest banking companies. The firms' failure to assess an array of risks they were taking has emerged as a key element in the multitrillion-dollar meltdown of the global financial system.

Although Geithner repeatedly raised concerns about the failure of banks to understand their risks, including those taken through derivatives, he and the Federal Reserve system did not act with enough force to blunt the troubles that ensued. That was largely because he and other regulators relied too much on assurances from senior banking executives that their firms were safe and sound, according to interviews and a review of documents by The Washington Post and the nonprofit journalism organization ProPublica.


So why is he still taking their word for it?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 07:39 PM
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1.  How Could You Believe Me When I Said I Love You When You Know I've Been A Liar All My Life
Edited on Fri Apr-03-09 07:40 PM by BrklynLiberal



How could you believe me when I said "I Love You"
When you know I've been a liar all my life?
I've had that reputation since I was a youth -
You must have been insane to think I'd ever tell the truth.
How could you believe me when I said we'd marry,
When you know I'd rather die than that have a wife?
I know I said, "I'll make you mine,"
But who would know that you would go for that old line?
How could you believe me when I said "I Love You"
When you know I've been a liar, a good for nothing liar,
All my good for nothin' life?

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Boy: I was rompin' with another honey lamb.
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Boy: But, Baby, let us not forget that I'm a heel!
How could you believe me when I said I love you,
When you know I've been a liar, a good for nothing liar,
All my good for nothin' life?

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When you know I've been a liar all my life?
I've had that reputation since I was a youth -
You must have been insane to think I'd ever tell the truth.
And how could you believe me when I said we'd marry,
When you know I'd rather hang than be a wife?
I know I said, "I'll make you mine" -
But, honey, you're so young, and that's an old, old line.
How could you believe me when I said "I Love You"
When you know I've been a liar, a good for nothing liar,
All my good for nothin' life?

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Traveling_Home Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 07:51 PM
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2. US Taxpayers relied too much on Geitner that banks he was regulating were safe and sound nt
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 07:54 PM
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3. You need to go directly to Washington and help these folks out since
you can handle this global catastrophe so well.

Kick and Rec!
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 08:02 PM
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4. He's part of the old boy network. Happy karma, Tim.
Don't bother taking the warm clothes.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 08:07 PM
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5. To summarize, Geithner was an ineffective regulator who took the word of those who he regulated
above all other sources of information.

He did not act decisively to use the tools he had at hand to control problems that he and his staff clearly saw.

I have yet to read a decent explanation of why Obama picked him to run the Treasury, other than "trust me."

Good for the Post for running with this article.

Some have said that Rattner, who is currently running GM, is going to be Geithner's replacement. Rattner and his wife are big time fundraisers. Rattner's professional qualifications are that he was an investment banker in the media area.

If true, I can hardly wait for Geithner's replacement.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:04 PM
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7. oh noes, you Obama doubter you!!!1111!!!
:sarcasm: how could you ever believe that Geithner isn't Gawd's only second coming?!

I am shocked! Shocked!! That anyone on DU could second guess the Geithner!
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 10:22 PM
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8. Guilty as charged.
Please take mercy on me. I'm an old lady who doesn't know any better.

Geithner surely is the second coming of all gods out there!

How could I possibly forget that!
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 08:07 PM
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6. Ok, but if they're not sound, why are they returning TARP $ ...
... rather than accept the compensation limits?
They must be okie-dokie enough to not need "help with strings attached" ...

Or was the whole "help us, we've fallen and we can't get up" just another scam of the American people? <rhetorical question>


:shrug:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 08:33 AM
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9. He's their man.
He works for them.

His role is to tell Obama what the real owners of America want the administration to do.
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antiwarmonger Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 03:13 PM
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10. article assumes incompetence
I see no proof of incompetence. We don't know Geithner's motives.

I'm too cynical to believe its incompetence on Geithner's part, when Geithner's conflicts of interest are many.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 08:54 PM
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11. Geithner has proven quite incompetent before.
The IMF sent him over to assist the fallen Asian economies. He had two business models to choose from - and he went with the one that further broke the toppled system.

Japan has paid a hard price for Geithner's "wisdom."
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