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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 05:36 PM
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Al Gore is full of it !
I was starting to believe this "global warming" talk because it's been pretty warm this winter so far. But it just went below 10 degrees. I think this now proves beyond all doubt that global warming is a myth. Those environmental whackos and so called "scientists" at the UN will believe anything as long as it fits their political agenda.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 05:39 PM
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1. I hate to admit it ...
... but I have to agree with you on this one. It was hot here in the summertime, and now that it's winter, it's cold - even ice and snow!

What's that Gore fella up to, you might well ask ...
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 05:45 PM
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2. Ahhhhhhhhhh! Look out for the Climate Shift monster.
:dem:
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 05:46 PM
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3. Excuse me.....people you certainly don't know very much do you
GLOBAL WARMING..it causes climate change. Some times you have a freeze before it starts to warm up. It will cause the Gulf Stream to be diverted. The coast of Britian will get even colder. The East Coast will get colder. I don't know if you are funning or not. But this is a proven fact about global warming, and I was taught this in GRADE school in the 1940's.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 05:47 PM
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4. Yes, they are funning.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 05:51 PM
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6. You forgot one thing
yes, I am "funning" as you say

but

in reality it's not funny at all because if you turn on Rush Limbaugh any day of the week you'll hear that exact same thing, word for word, without any "funning" going on whatsoever.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 05:50 PM
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5. Damn skippy! Cal Thomas tells it like it is!
Saw this column on Christmas day and all I could figure was he remembered at the last minute he owed someone a complete load before the year was out.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/CalThomas/2007/12/25/secular_fundamentalists
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 05:52 PM
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7. it's about 60 degrees here in LA - it actually feels cold,burrrrr
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 05:56 PM
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8. OK, hit me where it really hurts.
not only am I freezing my ass off, I'm also contributing to global warming more because I live in a cold climate that requires major heating loads.

I often ponder... I do what we can to change our light bulbs, turn off the appliances when not in use... but all that energy conservation wouldn't save a fraction of the global warming CO2 emmissions that I could save by simply moving to a warmer climate.
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:10 PM
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15. "the global warming CO2 emmissions that I could save by simply moving to a warmer climate."
...where they typically use air conditioners...
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:27 PM
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17. I lived in Oregon for 10 years
My heating load was about 1/5th what it is here in Vermont and I didn't own an air conditioner.
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 01:03 PM
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21. No problem
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 01:36 PM
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22. I don't think I'll ever use air conditioning.
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 01:36 PM by garybeck
If I move I will not go to a hot climate. I'll choose a moderate climate like Western Oregon or Washington that has mild winters currently, and if it does get hotter, i'll jump in the river. If it gets real bad I'll use an evaporative cooler which is MUCH more efficient than a regular air conditioner. They're even efficient enuf to run on a reasonable number of solar panels.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 05:57 PM
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9. I, for one, was shocked to discover that it snowed - SNOWED - in the Midwest in December!!
This proves once and for all that GHGs can't trap long-wave radiation, so that even if the atmosphere had the highest levels of CO2 in 800,000 years, it wouldn't MATTER.

Goddamned ice cores. Why do ice core data hate our freedoms?

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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:01 PM
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11. Ice cores are considered experimental science anyway
See how easy this is? Rush gets paid far too much for making up this bullcrap.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 05:59 PM
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10. My dad says shit like that ALL the time.
It's so annoying...but he's a pub and watches Fox news ALL day long. They continually have "experts" debunking global warming
that he can't wait to tell me about. :eyes:
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:02 PM
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13. that's why we have peer reviewed and studies, and
places like DU where people like us can comiserate over our relatives who are lost in the lies and deceit
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:01 PM
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12. I dunno
I had roses growing in my yard at the end of November, and yesterday there was a dandelion blooming by my mailbox.
In Pittsburgh. In January.

I think he may be onto something.

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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:07 PM
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14. I noticed one of my trees was dropping berries last week.
In the snow I saw all these little blue berries. I think they're supposed to fall a little later than December.
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:20 PM
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16. Yup! It sure feels cold alright (compared to yesterday)
But I just checked the Weather Underground, and it tells me that we're only a little below average, and way above the record low for today. Yesterday was well above average, Monday is forecast to be about 20°F above average.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:30 PM
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18. Average, smaverage....
it's cold today. this is indisputable proof that global warming is not real. anything else is pure propaganda.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:53 PM
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19. It's cold here, too.
So I guess you're right. Until Tuesday, when it'll be 60 and then you won't.
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 07:21 PM
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20. Combatting ignorance
I've found the Common Sense Climate Index effective against such claims in the past. Explain patiently that day-to-day differences aren't that important, or even year-to-year differences, it's the long-term trend.

Here's a chart for Central Park in NYC. Top Graph, annual average (Red means hotter than average. Blue means colder. Black line is 5-year mean.) Bottom graph, seasonal average.




Find a chart for your area. http://data.giss.nasa.gov/csci/stations/
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 01:38 PM
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24. very cool, thanks NT
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 01:37 PM
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23. ...
:rofl:

What's NOT funny is when you hear idiots spouting this kind of crap and actually believing it. That's just scary and sad.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 12:12 PM
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25. Have fun with that okay...
that's why it's CLIMATE CHANGE...

But then again, since your basing your entire belief system on a one very small region of the world, can I expect anything less?

I'm always so amazed as to the "it has to happen in some sort of extreme fashion right now otherwise I don't believe it" crew.

Nature takes it's time and waits for no one. Last time I checked Nature is still in charge.

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