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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:18 PM
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GWEC Says Wind Boom will Continue (240 GW by 2012)
http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/story?id=51984

The Global Wind Energy Council (GWEC) is forecasting that the global wind market will grow by more than 155 percent, reaching 240 gigawatts (GW) of total installed capacity by 2012. With both the U.S. and the Chinese markets growing at a much faster rate than expected a year ago, the emergence of significant manufacturing capacity in China will have a more important impact on the growth of the global markets.

GWEC now forecasts an addition of 146 GW will come online in the next five years, equalling an investment of more than €180 billion (US $277 billion). By 2012 wind generated electricity is expected to reach over 500 terrawatt-hours (TWh) annually, up from 200 TWh in 2007. In 2012, Europe will continue to host the largest wind energy capacity, with the total reaching 102 GW, followed by Asia with 66 GW and North America with 61.3 GW, according to GWEC.

Asia, led by China, is predicted to overtake Europe as the biggest annual market, with as much as 12.5 GW of new wind generating capacity installed during 2012, up from 5.4 GW in 2007. Europe, meanwhile, will have fallen to third place in terms of annual installations at 10.3 GW, just behind North America at 10.5 GW by then. Assuming the Production Tax Credit (PTC) will be renewed, North America will see an addition of 42.6 GW of wind in the next five years, reaching 61.3 GW of total capacity in 2012. This represents an average of 8.5 GW of new capacity added every year, the bulk of which will be in the U.S

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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:42 PM
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1. 500 TWh = 1.8 ex-o-jewels
:evilgrin:

:rofl:
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 10:01 PM
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3. You mean in 4 more years it will still be trivial?
I'm hardly surprised.

For the last 8 years dumb ass fundies have been telling us that wind will save us along with solar and now, after 8 such years, we still have dumb fundie anti-nukes trying to substitute "renewable" energy predictions for reality.

For the entire time wind energy and solar energy has remained trivial.

The number of dumb fundie anti-nukes who mock scientific units because they don't know any science or understand any science any remains contant.

I love to quote Abraham Lincoln when addressing dumb fundie anti-nukes"

"Of all God's creatures, the hen is the wisest. It only cackles after it lays and egg."

If we had an exajoule for every time the so called "renewable" energy industry predicted it would become significant, there would be not be energy problems. But the renewable energy industry is unique because no amount of failure ever stops them selling themselves. They sort of remind one of the Catholic Church, which has been predicting for some two thousand years the return of Jesus.

In fact, if wind energy ever gets to 2 exajoules, which I doubt, the external costs will become so obvious that a groundswell of public opinion will slow it down.

In fact, the dumb ass fundie illiterate anti-nuke Robert F. Kennedy Jr is just the first example of this sort of thing.

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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 08:57 AM
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4. Wind power has broken the vaunted "ex-o-jewel barrier"
Something 5th grade dropout nuclear hobbyists told us could *never* happen.

Now they move the goal posts....whiners....
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 09:35 AM
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5. Bullshit.
Wind power has never produced an exajoule of energy on the planet in a single year.

In fact, the renewable energy fantasy is not even keeping pace with the growth in dangerous fossil fuels over this decade.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/solar.renewables/page/trends/table1.html

The above, by the way, is something called data.

Here is something else called data:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/international/iealf/table17.xls

It would appear that all dumb ass fundie "renewables will save us" schemes combined barely produce 1 exajoule of electricity - garbage burning, wind, solar, geothermal, tides blah, blah, blah, combined.

Even if wind power did produce an exajoule, it would represent less than 1/500th of humanity's energy needs, which is trivial and this after 5 modern decades of "renewables will save us" talk.

The dumb fundie anti-nuke cult has no concept of scale.

I couldn't care less about renewable fantasies. I'm just trying to keep dumb fundies from killing more people with their anti-nuke crap that is trying to destroy and vandalize the world's largest, by far, form of climate change gas free energy.

Humanity abandoned so called renewable energy in the 18th century, when the population was less than a sixth of what it now. There was a reason for this. I note that 5 out of 6 "renewables will save us" cult members have not volunteered to die for their fantasies. They'd rather outsource the dying to poor people.



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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 04:06 PM
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7. Sorry, global wind power capacity now exceeds 100 GW - 1 Ej to be produced this year
:rofl:
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 06:05 PM
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9. Sorry, but you always live on wishful thinking and not data.
Sorry, but giggles are not energy, nor are they data, not knowledge of spinning reserve and not anything more than having a pathetic immoral head in the sand.

The anti-nuke cult has consistently been lying since Saint Amory first published his stupidity in 1976.

30 years of failure has not made them more truthful.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 08:02 PM
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11. Global Wind Power Capacity Reaches 100,000 Megawatts
http://www.earthpolicy.org/Indicators/Wind/2008.htm

At its current growth rate, global installed wind power capacity will top 100,000 megawatts in March 2008. In 2007, wind power capacity increased by a record-breaking 20,000 megawatts, bringing the world total to 94,100 megawatts—enough to satisfy the residential electricity needs of 150 million people. Driven by concerns regarding climate change and energy security, one in every three countries now generates a portion of its electricity from wind, with 13 countries each exceeding 1,000 megawatts of installed wind electricity-generating capacity.

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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 09:16 PM
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12. Watts are still not joules.
They won't be joules next year either, or the year after that or the year after that.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 08:39 AM
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13. 100 GW of wind turbine capacity operating at a mean capacity factor of 32% will produce 1.0092 Ej/yr
Watts

Jewels

QED
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 03:11 PM
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14. In your bizarre dreams the capacity factor of wind is 32%.
The capacity loading of wind can be easily calculated from EIA data, but this would involve doing math - in this case simple division - a very, very, very, very weak point with the "renewables will save us" anti-nuke cult.

Wind has yet to produce 0.2% of the world's energy in a single year.

In fact, in the last 8 years on this website, while anti-nukes claimed that they gave a rat's ass about climate change and that wind and solar could do everything, including displace the world's largest, by far, form of climate change gas free energy, almost 1/4 of a trillion tons of dangerous fossil fuel waste has been dumped into the atmosphere.

This is the world that anti-nuke fundies insisted on, inaction, mysticism, denial and hallucination. They must feel very satisfied with the result. The planet is dying.

Ignorance kills.


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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 06:37 PM
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2. MFTE -- it's everywhere! nt
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 04:02 PM
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6. MFTE? what does that mean?
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 05:32 PM
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8. Much Faster Than Expected!
Edited on Sat Mar-29-08 05:33 PM by eppur_se_muova
Usually refers to the latest report on Arctic melting, which always shows it's happening much faster than the report of the previous week.

It's sort of like "no one could have anticipated ..." in environmental circles.
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 07:52 PM
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10. Well I'm happy MFTE is applying to the growth of wind and solar as well as ice melt.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 08:28 PM
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15. And China alone will add ~500 GW of coal-fired capacity in that same timeframe
They added over 100 GW of coal in the past 18 months alone.

Globally, there will probably be over 1000 GW of new coal capacity built by 2012.

Oh, and the Arctic ice cap will probably collapse either this year or the next, but don't feel like there's a rush or anything.
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