Toshiba expects 33 reactor orders by 2015

[Dogmudgeon]

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http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/C-Toshiba_expects_33_reactor_orders_by_2015-2205083.html?jmid=3021&j=118321487&utm_source=JangoMail&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=WNN+Daily+22+May+2008+(118321487)&utm_content=deb%40nei.org">Toshiba expects 33 reactor orders by 2015

Japan's Toshiba Corporation expects orders for at least 33 nuclear power reactors by 2015, and plans to expand all its nuclear businesses over the period to 2020, according to the company's president.

The predictions were made earlier this month in Strategies for Growth 2008, the company's outline of the business directions planned for all its divisions. In a question and answer session, the company said that 33 units could be a conservative estimate, adding "we believe it is possible that the number of orders might increase." The Toshiba presentation does not say where it expects the orders for 33 units to come from but highlights the US, China, South Africa and the UK as countries with plans for new projects and where it is making sales efforts. The company plans to more than double its current annual sales target for the nuclear division, to ¥1 trillion ($9.6 billion) in 2020.

In a presentation by Toshiba president Atsutoshi Nishida the company claimed that it has already received orders for ten AP1000 units – four in China and six in the USA, plus being named as prime contractor in an Engineering, Procurement and Construction (EPC) contract for the construction of two ABWR units at South Texas Project in the USA. (In fact, the six US AP1000 "orders" are an EPC contract for Southern Co's two units at Vogtle, plus orders for long lead time materials for a further four units.)

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On the back of the expected orders, Toshiba says it should be able to shorten the time taken to pay off the debt from its 2006 acquisition of US nuclear company and reactor builder Westinghouse to 13 years instead of the initially anticipated 17 years.

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(I lied. I DO have a comment. Harvey Korman died last night. That sucks.)

--p!

[madokie]

1. And I expect to see pigs come flying out of their collective asses

By 2015 it'll be shown ever so clearly that we don't have to turn to nuclear for our power. Wind and solar is our future
Add: coupled with conservation. I know we have dropped our electrical usage by one fourth by switching to more efficient appliances, CFLs and conservation, by simply turning the damn things off when not in use.

[hunter]

3. By 2015 it'll be shown we are in a Big Heap Of Trouble.

Especially if we are unable to secure adequate natural gas supplies.

Right or wrong about nuclear power, anti-nuclear activists are going to be dropping out and scattering into the hills as the troubles with natural gas supplies begin.

[diane in sf]

4. There are many replacements for natural gas including harvesting human and animal waste and

conserving usage. Shortage of natural gas is not going to stop the sun from shining or the wind from blowing. And when those supply the electricity we can switch from gas appliances and power generation.

[depakid]

5. Reality check

Wind and solar only produce a timy fraction of US energy usage- and we'll be lucky to see that scale up much by 2015, so the mid term choice is coal or nuclear.

Once you accept that reality, the choice is prertty clear what's necessary if America's going to keep the lights (and air conditioning) on.

[madokie]

6. What we need to be doing in the mean time is converting our coal plants to gasifiers

as we ramp up the manufacture and placement of both solar and wind. By converting the coal plants from a direct burn to a gasifier reduces the amount of co2 produced by over 50% whether we sequester it or not.

[Zachstar]

9. You paying for that? And paying for all the bills that will get jacked up?

No?

Then find a better solution!

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[Zachstar]

11. If there is no phohibitive cost then go pay for it!

Seriously show us the contracts, the workforce, the engineering, etc...

[madokie]

12. You wouldn't see it

Seriously show us the contracts, the workforce, the engineering, etc... ???

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[madokie]

14. Peace

now go the fuck away

[Zachstar]

15. Sorry if I hit a Nerve but I dislike people in my view trying to turn this place into fundievile

Until you can show me either.

A. Coal Plants going offline in massive amounts due to green power making them without profits.

OR

B. Solar and Wind and their storage devices being a GREAT deal cheaper to build and operate (Oh and BTW much cleaner too as soon as PV production in some areas means heavy pollution in the local area) IE they have to be halfed in cost while being triple as effective.

Then I will continue because going against fission is STUPID and DISTRACTING when we got MUCH bigger problems on our hand then fantasy rays going into the bunnies.

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[bananas]

18. It's the Uranus worshipers who turn it into fundieville

The fundies who believe that our only hope for Salvation is in the Resurrection of Nuclear Jesus.

[bananas]

17. You don't seem to understand how expensive new nuclear plants are

I'll try to post some information later.

[Zachstar]

19. Toshiba seems to disagree

[Zachstar]

8. By 2015 the population will be higher.

All that CFL and stuff is doing little except easing the load so that coal fired plants don't have to approach 100 percent. By 2015 that will be filled in.

Yes solar and wind are looking better every year but the only thing that can replace the fission reactors in any serious matter is fusion. If you dispute that then tell me why coal use is exploding. You worry about stopping increased coal and then I may consider going against fission.


You look like an idiot saying don't need nuclear BTW you are aware of the differences between fusion and fission right? Or is the fundie thing coming forward again?

[jpak]

2. Gee - current global wind power additions are 20 GW per year

and total capacity will more than double to 240 GW by 2012...

http://www.ewea.org/index.php?id=60&no_cache=1&tx_ttnews=1311&tx_ttnews=259&cHash=cde5d628f4

and global PV production will rise to 10 GW per year in 2008...

http://envirovaluation.org/index.php/2008/03/01/renewable_energy_accelerates_meteoric_ri

Looks like nuclear is being left in the dust...

[depakid]

20. The US is an exceptional case and can't and doesn't reflect worldwide numbers

300 Million people less than 4% of the world population built in to using about 24% of the world's energy resources

Here's the 2006 US Energy Budget (in Quads).



Rather eye opening with respect to the contributions and potential mid-term contributions of solar and wind....

[Dogmudgeon]

21. "Left in the dust" ... ?

Nobody told me that energy generation had been turned into a NASCAR event!

:evilgrin:

--p!
"You want a tin of Copenhagen with that, chief?"

[Zachstar]

7. Sounds good!

Once oil hits 200 there will be a vastly increased called for reactors and it sounds like they are getting a head start!

They are betting that fusion will not come online for the next 20 years but then again it may not! So regardless we need the giant amount of clean energy now.