In the comics

[alfredo]

[NV Whino]

1. Well that says it...

don't it.

[alfredo]

3. That's been around for decades. I remember back in Carter's day

complaining that big oil was blocking alternative energy research.

[Indenturedebtor]

2. Yep that's one of the best arguments for solar, wind, geothermal, an tidal n/t

[NNadir]

4. Actually the world's largest solar energy company is owned by an oil company.

That would be BP Solar.

The world's largest wind company is owned by a nuclear company.

That would be Areva, which owns RealPower.

The world's largest uranium supplier is not owned by an oil company.

In general the assumption that wind and solar are the answers to some kind of liberatarian "freedom" game is trash.

I note that the automobile companies first advertised themselves as "freedom" merchants who would free humanity from the rail barons.

Heckuva job.

[alfredo]

5. I don't see it as a panacea, but we need some thinking big because

we may not try if we thought it was for naught. It's a lofty goal.

The most important thing we need to do is stop making so many babies. We are fucking ourselves into extinction.

[stuntcat]

6. the owners of energy companies can't stop other people from using those resources

it is so. hard. for people to open up their minds :banghead:

(I'm gonna share this, thanks.)

[alfredo]

7. But they can influence their clients in congress to suppress funding for

research into alternatives, or twist facts. Look at Inhofe.

[stuntcat]

8. this is true

Some US citizens will have to just hope that other countries will do the work and export their technology to us :patriot:

[alfredo]

9. It's happening more and more nowadays.