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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 08:23 AM
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How Much Coal Remains?
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/323/5920/1420
Science 13 March 2009:
Vol. 323. no. 5920, pp. 1420 - 1421
DOI: 10.1126/science.323.5920.1420

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GEOLOGY:

How Much Coal Remains?

Richard A. Kerr

The planet's vast store of coal could fuel the world economy for centuries--and fiercely stoke global warming--but a few analysts are raising the prospect of an imminent shortfall.



(Podcast available at link.)
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 08:29 AM
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1. A bunch n/t
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 08:45 AM
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3. And you know this… how?
Have you listened to the podcast?
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 08:49 AM
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4. I could go out in my yard and dig some up with a backhoe
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 08:55 AM
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5. OK then! Crisis averted!
Edited on Fri Mar-13-09 08:56 AM by OKIsItJustMe
I love backyard science!

BTW:
I can go into my back yard, and get water from the stream. (No water problems!)
I can go into my back yard, and cut down trees! (No problem with deforestation!)
My backyard is on a hill, so flooding is not a problem anywhere! (Yeah!)
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 10:08 AM
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6. You're right I can cut down a tree, I can drill a well or
go down the road a piece and get spring water, I can shoot me a deer for food and I do live on hill so as long as the Ohio river doesn't go up 600 feet I won't get flooded. :hi:
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 08:35 AM
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2. I heard ananalogy of coal/oil being like a savings account
that should be drawn on very sparingly. Well we've burnt most of the oil in a couple hundred years.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 06:01 PM
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7. Oil can be created with current technology.
Edited on Fri Mar-13-09 06:02 PM by Massacure
In World War II, Germany created more than 100,000 barrels a day using Fischer-Tropsch processes. Of course they used coal as a carbon feedstock. If we wanted to repeat what Germany did, we would want to use biomass.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 02:29 PM
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9. 100,000 barrels per day
Enough to keep the USA running for 7 minutes a day...

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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 12:15 PM
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10. I have a hunch with no one trying to destroy the plants,
the US could probably do better than WWII era Germany.
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Terry in Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 07:47 PM
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8. Not all that much n/t
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abqmufc Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 03:19 PM
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11. DOE website with data
Edited on Tue Mar-17-09 03:21 PM by abqmufc
I've been looking up U.S. resources for my work (tribal environmental organization).

I found info on coal reserves, not on a scientific website, but rather a DOE "kid's page".

According to this site we are looking at 225 years of coal....at current use. We are already using coal by 1.5% each year. Plug in cars will send that number up.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/kids/energyfacts/sources/non-renewable/coal.html

http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/infosheets/coalreserves.html


The concern is how much of our transportation needs that are currently oil based will be switched to coal? Currently 70% of the U.S. oil consumption is for transportation. Even a slight change in this number for coal will mean coal will be used up faster.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/basics/quickoil.html


Of course nuclear is cleaner burning, but the overall impacts don't make it viable either to me (mining, transport, storage).
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