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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 08:51 AM
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The Pachamama Alliance -- Awakening the Dreamer
I just got back from a weekend facilitators training workshop for the "Awakening the Dreamer" symposium. I joined 72 other people who were also responding to the call -- the distress call being sent out by life on this planet. We came together to learn how to present the symposium developed by the Pachamama Alliance, to help spread an awareness of the global crisis and how the human community is spontaneously responding to it.

The mission of the Awakening the Dreamer initiative is "to bring forth an environmentally sustainable, spiritually fulfilling and socially just human presence on Planet Earth." To help accomplish that goal they have developed the "Awakening the Dreamer Symposium". It is a 3 to 5 hour experience that includes video presentations framed by facilitators, guided individual and group exercises and opportunities to network with local organizations involved in environmental and social justice work.

This initiative is the first one I've found that is totally, 100% congruent with my own awareness of the converging crisis and my understanding of the broad, deep, organic, grass-roots response that is needed to confront it. Through four years of research, analysis, synthesis and writing I had discovered all the elements that make up the Symposium before I attended one last October. Needless to say it hit me like a thunderbolt, as my isolated perceptions were validated and I realized where the call I'd been feeling was coming from. Attending that symposium felt like coming home, as all the pieces of the puzzle finally fell into place.

Here's a taste (there's also a video trailer and list of planned symposiums at the link):

The Symposium

At the heart of the initiative is the Awakening the Dreamer Changing the Dream Symposium.

Through dynamic group interactions, leading edge information, and inspiring multimedia, participants of this half-day event are inspired to reconnect with their deep concern for our world, and are empowered to make a difference.

Designed with the collaboration of some of the finest scientific, indigenous and activist minds in the world, the Symposium explores the current state of our planet from a new perspective, and connects participants with a powerful global movement to reclaim our future.

It is an exploration of four questions

* Where Are We? – an examination of the state of environmental, social and personal well-being
* How did We Get Here? – tracing the root causes that lead to our current imbalance
* What’s Possible for the Future? – discovering new ways of relating with each other, with the Earth and looking at the emerging Movement for change
* Where Do We Go from Here? – considering the stand we want to be in the world and our personal and collective impact

If you are ready to be disturbed, inspired and moved to action, and to be introduced to a thriving community of committed cohorts, then join us in exploring the most critical concerns of our times, and discover new opportunities to make a real difference in accelerating the emergence of an environmentally sustainable, spiritually fulfilling, and socially just human presence on this planet!
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 09:14 AM
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1. I hate to say this, but...
...Does the phrase "pissing in the wind" ring a bell?

(Sorry, Mr Misanthropist is online.)

:)
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 09:25 AM
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2. Yeah, but
Maybe there were some good looking chicks there? I bet there were.

What's wrong with making love? I mean, it's green, non-consumptive, renewable and good for you; as long as you wash your hands and wear a mask.
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 09:39 AM
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4. Apart from the 6.8 billion population (and growing), you mean?
....depends where you wear the mask....

;)
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 09:39 AM
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3. I hate to say this, but...
...You appear to have missed the point.

The point is not to solve particular problems or prevent the shit from hitting the fan. the point is for humanity to make it through the change in some fashion, and give ourselves a fighting chance of coming out of it with a more mature cultural narrative.
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 10:09 AM
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5. I hate to say this, but...
Pachamama seems to be missing the finer pionts of TEOTWAWKI. Example:

We hold a vision of millions of people committed individually to action and then united as a movement for change. We know that our separate voices make a difference and beyond, that the emergence of a movement will be an unstoppable force for change

That's nice. It's great as a rallying call. And if it works, that's cool. But if Pachamama comes up against a dozen heavily-armed freepers, what then? They'll fall like leaves.

And where is the 300-year library going to be hosted?

Where are the crop rotation plans?

Where are the new democracy plans?

I appreciate what they're doing, but I can't help thinking they're 100 years too late, and a dollar short...
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 11:45 AM
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10. The answer to the "12 freepers with guns" objection is this:
Edited on Mon Apr-27-09 11:51 AM by GliderGuider
The key is in the widely distributed nature of the shift. At this point it's far too large, widespread and diffuse for 12 freepers with guns (or even a series of hostile national governments) to take it out. As I wrote at the end of an essay almost two years ago:

American activist Paul Hawken has just written a tremendously important book called "Blessed Unrest" in which he describes a set of one to two million local, independent, citizen-run environmental and social justice groups. These groups exist world-wide, and each is acting on local problems of its own choosing. There is no overarching ideology beyond "making the world a better place", there is no unifying organization, no white male vertebrate leader setting the agenda. As a result the movement is extremely resilient - no government action anywhere can shut it down, even though individual groups may be suppressed. These groups make up the largest (though unrecognized) social movement the world has ever seen. For a glimpse of some of these organizations, take a look at the web site WiserEarth.org.

Hawken sees this movement as part of humanity's immune system. While I like the metaphor and think it is exactly correct, I believe the importance of these groups is much greater than just their efforts to mitigate an unavoidable collapse. These groups have been called into existence by the world's dis-ease, and do two things: they work to fix local problems now (which will mitigate some local effects of the collapse), but more importantly they act as carriers for the values of cooperation, consensus, nurturing, recognition of interdependence, acceptance of limits, universal justice and the respect for other life. Those are precisely the values that a civilization will need to achieve stability and sustainability. To top it all off, many of these groups are led by women or espouse specifically matriarchal values, one attribute I see as essential for any sustainable civilization.

At the risk of sounding sentimental, I call these groups the antibodies in Gaia's bloodstream.

I am convinced we will not save this civilization, and will lose a large fraction of humanity in the process. But I'm equally convinced that thanks to the seeds that have already been planted in these groups we have a shot at a much better one in a couple of hundred years. The crucial change in perspective required to see the hope in this is to stop looking from here forward into the decline, and instead look backward from a position out two hundred years and imagine what it will take to rebuild a truly sustainable civilization from the ashes of this one. The values required are already embodied in a resilient organization, enough of whose elements will survive to transmit a sustainable value set into the ecologically damaged, resource-depleted world we will bequeath to the future.

On edit: I now say that the "greater importance" these groups have (beyond their antibody role) is in their function as as metaphorical imaginal cells. They not only are positioned to carry a sustainable value set through the change, they are in some mysterious fashion catalyzing the change itself.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 10:19 AM
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6. To put it a little more clearly
Edited on Mon Apr-27-09 10:39 AM by GliderGuider
In my opinion:

We won't stop population growth before we run into the effects of resource limits and climate change. We won't stop the growth in global consumption before then either, unless this little economic slowdown turns out to be The Big One. So given that we can't stop the shit from hitting the fan, and that the wind we're pissing into is going to keep blowing, what do we do?

My proposal (and Pachamama's proposal as well ) is that we work at shifting the cultural narrative that drove us into this box in the first place. That might at least give us some chance of not staying trapped in the box until the seas turn purple and the skies green. In the process of doing that, we build stronger, smaller, fairer, more connected communities, regain some of our lost connection with the rest of the web of life, and make our lives more fulfilling at the same time.

It seems hard to argue with that response, unless your goals are different. If that is the case, pursue your own goals and destiny will take care of itself. You can pursue your own path without having to make theirs wrong.

On edit: Working on 300-year libraries, crop rotation plans and new forms of government are all part of changing the story. One effect of Pachamama's initiative is to provide such activities with a cultural framework that makes them more likely to succeed. One can do both at the same time...
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 10:51 AM
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7. It's a fine goal...
...were it not for human nature.

No, we won't stop population growth. Or comsuption. Shit is meeting fan right now.

Nor (IMHO - feel free to disagree) do we have time to shift the cultural narrative. Hell, we've barely time to shift the furniture: We have maybe 5 years before the shit really bites.

You are the last person I thought would be sitting around singing Cum-bay-ah. So either there's something really special about Pachamama I'm not getting, or you've swallowed the blue pill.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 11:10 AM
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8. There is something really special about Pachamama.
Your reaction doesn't surprise me too much. Anyone who has read my writing knows I'm a redpill -- take my response to Pachamama's message in that context.

About shifting our cultural narrative:

It takes very little time to shift the world story of an individual who is ready for it.
It takes very few changed individuals to shift the narrative of a culture that is already dissolving.

We are blessed to be living at such a moment of cultural dissolution, and the imaginal cells are already appearing in the caterpillar body of humanity. What kind of butterfly might emerge? I have no idea what will happen, I just know that we can't remain a caterpillar any longer. It's time. Why not try?

And it's spelled "Kumbaya". Try singing a verse or two, it's a very nice song... :hippie:
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 11:27 AM
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9. What is "human nature?"
Your assumption is that the cooperative sheep will get slaughtered, that in the end, altruism is a luxury.

However, altruism is appearing more and more to be a product of evolution. (i.e. a part of "Human Nature.")

http://www.newsweek.com/id/195117

Adventures In Good And Evil

What makes some of us saints and some of us sinners? The evolutionary roots of morality.

By Sharon Begley | NEWSWEEK
Published Apr 25, 2009
From the magazine issue dated May 4, 2009

It isn't surprising that the best-known experiments in psychology (apart from Pavlov's salivating dogs) are those Stanley Milgram ran beginning in the 1960s. Over and over, with men and women, with the old and the young, he found that when ordinary people are told to administer increasingly stronger electric shocks to an unseen person as part of a "learning experiment," the vast majority—sometimes 93 percent—complied, even when the learner (actually one of the scientists) screamed in anguish and pleaded, "Get me out of here!" Nor is it surprising that Milgram's results have been invoked to explain atrocities from the Holocaust to Abu Ghraib and others in which ordinary people followed orders to commit heinous acts. What is surprising is how little attention science has paid to the dissenters in Milgram's experiments. Some participants did balk at following the command to torture their partner. As one of them, World War II veteran Joseph Dimow, recalled decades later, "I refused to go any further."

On second thought, ignoring the few people who did not fit the pattern—in this case, of throwing morality to the wind in order to obey authority—is not that surprising: in probing the neurological basis and the evolutionary roots of good and evil, scientists have mostly focused on the majority and made sweeping generalizations. In general, most people's moral sense capitulates in the face of authority, as Milgram showed. In general, the roots of our moral sense—of honesty, altruism, compassion, generosity and sense of justice and fairness—are sunk deep in evolutionary history, as can be seen in our primate cousins, who are capable of remarkable acts of altruism. In one classic experiment, a chain in the cage of a rhesus monkey did double duty: it brought food to the monkey who pulled it, but delivered an electric shock to a second monkey. After observing the effect of pulling the chain on their companions, one monkey stopped pulling the chain for five days and one stopped for 12 days, primatologist Frans de Waal recounts in his 2006 book, "Primates and Philosophers: How Morality Evolved." The monkeys "were literally starving themselves to avoid inflicting pain on another," he writes. The closer a monkey was related to the victim, the longer it would go hungry, which supports the idea that morality evolved because it aided the survival of those with whom we share the most genes. Darwin himself viewed morality as the product of evolution. But monkeys and apes, like people, have taken a trait that evolved to help kin and extended it to completely unrelated creatures. De Waal once saw a chimpanzee pick up an injured starling, climb the highest tree in her enclosure, carefully unfold the bird's wings and loft it toward the fence to get it airborne.

And the final "in general" is that people's ethical decision making is strongly driven by gut emotions rather than by rational, analytic thought. If people are asked whether they would be willing to throw a switch to redirect deadly fumes from a room with five children to a room with one, most say yes, and neuroimaging shows that their brain's rational, analytical regions had swung into action to make the requisite calculation. But few people say they would kill a healthy man in order to distribute his organs to five patients who will otherwise die, even though the logic—kill one, save five—is identical: a region in our emotional brain rebels at the act of directly and actively taking a man's life, something that feels immeasurably worse than the impersonal act of throwing a switch in an air duct. We have gut feelings of what is right and what is wrong.

These generalizations are all well and good, but they get you only so far. They do not explain, for instance, why Joseph Dimow balked at Milgram's experiments. They do not explain why a Tibetan monk who had been incarcerated for years by the Chinese said (in a story the Dalai Lama is fond of telling) that his greatest fear during captivity was that he would lose his compassion for the prison guards who tortured him. They do not explain why—given the human capacity for forgiveness and revenge, for compassion as well as cruelty, for both altruism and selfishness—some people fall at one end of the moral spectrum and some at the other. Nor do they explain a related mystery—namely, whether it is possible to cultivate virtue through the way we construct a society, raise children or even train our own brains.

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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 04:52 AM
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11. Human nature
The eurocentric universalist dream does indeed state that there is some definable universal "human nature" (which just happens to be to the product eurocentric sociolinguistic conditioning ;)), namely homo consumericus, and manifest destiny/white man's burden dictates eurocentric peoples to spread their homogenizing gospel of homo consumericus to all peoples of the earth - in a process some choose to call imperialism.

So, according to the eurocentric "universalist" definition of "human nature" e.g. these chirping creatures: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirah%C3%A3_people
are not humans but beasts in dire need of getting civilized...

But there is other way to realize "human nature": as nature where-here humans are participating in countless ways, contributing their songs to the great choire of Pachamama, Lady with Blue Cape, in nature that is undefinable, uncontrollable, all-including.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 05:36 AM
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12. Computers need both hardware and software
I've become convinced that our predicament has been created by a feedback between our evolved brain and our cultural beliefs. Our brain -- with its hyperbolic discount function, unconscious decision-making and the sense of separation that was the Faustian price for the self-awareness granted by our neocortex -- seems to me to be necessary but not sufficient to produce the dilemma we find ourselves trapped in. If the human organism can be loosely imagined as a "computer", the brain is the hardware and our cultural beliefs are the software -- the programming that the hardware expresses in action. Either one without the other is relatively inert, at least on the larger stage. The hardware has an ability to act autonomously of course, but this is a fairly rudimentary capacity, sort of like the BIOS in a PC. The BIOS can't produce Google Earth or a Total Information Awareness database. You need complex software for that, and this is precisely what "culture" provides.

Given that we can't change our hardware, we work with what we can change -- the software. My choice for a new program is the one hinted at by Paul Hawken's book "Blessed Unrest" and embodied in two million or more small, independent, local organizations around the world -- a set of independent, fully distributed, completely resiliant, localized set of programs that maximize the diversity of human response to the crisis. It's the largest social movement the world has ever seen, though it's still largely unrecognized as such. If anything can improve the odds that something noble from the human experiment might survive the bottleneck, I believe this is it.

The crash is likely to shatter many of the guardian institutions whose primary role is to keep us running the same old program of domination, exploitation, hierarchy and coercion (those institutions being our governments, corporations, religions, educational institutions and the globalized media). When that happens along with a reduction in our numbers, having the seeds of cultural change already widely scattered will maximize the chance that something different will emerge here and there. And since the future is inherently unknowable, "different" has at least some small chance of being "better", not just the same or worse. There are no guarantees, of course. We may succumb to our BIOS. But the fact that program we're running now is so much more than just a BIOS implies that other programs may be possible. And in the final analysis, what do we have to lose by trying?
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 06:56 AM
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13. There's a hole
the size of a quantum, in the brain-reductionistic memetics of (pseudo)scientific belief system of the computer analogy, meaning that what you say about "hardware" is also just "software". And, contrary to common beliefs, quantum jumps come in all sizes. Thus sayeth a wise man, an outcast physicist I recently visited, who talks a lot about spiritual evolution.

Sure, mental events observable in the theatre of mind (who or what is watching?) have their neurological coevents in terms of classical physics, but there is no one-way causal relationship but rather codependence, aspectual differences in holistic unity. What is important is that experience is not limited to what our sociocultural conditioning interpretes as limits of experience - individual "inner dialogue" interpretation machine, but fundamentally open to All, especially if and when the inner dialogue shuts down for a moment, moment of spiritual evolution evolving in quantum leaps.

Very theoretical, yes. But most of us have direct experiences of sharing "thoughts" with say, an old tree. "Thoughts" that are too slow and big for our chattering minds to perceive as "thoughts", but what we experience as immersive calm and serenity in the shade of an old tree. It's hardly a coincidence that Gautama became Buddha when sitting in the shade of a boddhitree, not in company of men, or that Piraha people live in the shade of the rainforest.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 07:29 AM
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14. The map is not the territory
We must accept from the outset that analogies are always crude and imperfect aides-memoires. That said, one interesting property of this particular one is that it is fractal. One can take as the "hardware" any relatively immutable level of the human action domain, and the "software" is then seen as the relatively mutable set of instructions that use the capabilities of the underlying mechanism. A slightly different analogy is the protocol stack, though it doesn't carry the sense of inaccessible durability offered by the biologically evolved mechanisms of the brain itself.

I've just started reading Wilber and coming up to speed on the integral/evolutionary approach to spirituality, but it seems to be an elegant framework, so long as you accept that "evolution" is directional and can postulate a propulsive mechanism equivalent to natural selection (that may already exist, as I say I'm a tyro at this).

At the training weekend I experienced my first shamanic journey that I understood as such, and my meditative practice has given me tastes of the stillness in which the deep connections you allude to can be perceived. The noosphere in which consciousness operates hand in hand with the unmanifest is a realm that our (pseudo)scientific culture is just beginning to perceive -- as through a glass, darkly. It does seem to be the domain through which calls like the one from the Achuar people that birthed the Pachamama Alliance are transmitted.
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 10:23 AM
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17. Some way though,
Edited on Tue Apr-28-09 10:32 AM by tama
The map of universe as participatory hologrammic dynamics IS the territory... not something given and readymade but ongoing creation... :)

As for shamanic visions, I consider them a language of sorts, just another interpretative filter, changing and evolving and open ended with lot of linguistic variation as with all languages, but still something shared. And as with other languages, it often helps to postpone interpretation or avoid attachment to a specific interpretation.

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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 10:30 AM
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18. If you're a cartographer the map itself is very important
Edited on Tue Apr-28-09 10:48 AM by GliderGuider
If you're a traveler the map per se is less important than its accuracy and the ease with which its information can be assimilated.

You have just clarified one of the things I still have to decide regarding Wilber and the Integral movement -- am I a cartographer or a traveler? If I am the latter is Wilber's map more accurate and useful than the other maps at my disposal?
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 10:51 AM
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19. I would say
You'll find in your self all the map you need, for both cartographing and travelling, which are two aspects of same movement.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 10:57 AM
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20. And I would agree.
:thumbsup:
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:03 AM
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15. "The future" will not be arrived at under some grand plan
Rather, as JMG pointed out in an article a while back, it will be arrived at through "tinkering".

I'm not opposed in any way to efforts to re-emphasize values such as community and conservation. However, I can't help but wonder if the energy spent on organizing seminars such as this would be better spent in organizing community support networks and the like. Perhaps it is meant to compel one to do the former, but experience tends to point me in the direction that it more often ends up reinforcing idealism when what we really need is more general pragmatism and a "tinkerer's soul" to deal with such issues. While established values certainly help in changing existing institutions and developing new ones to deal with changing conditions on the ground, more often those institutions develop out of a spirit of necessity rather than according to any kind of grand, overarching vision.

Personally, I prefer to spend time raising my own food and reaching out to the people I see every day in my community, as well as the farmers from whom I directly buy the food I don't raise myself.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:12 AM
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16. We will each do what we are called to do
Edited on Tue Apr-28-09 08:18 AM by GliderGuider
I choose to do this, you choose to do that, they choose to do something else. It has always been this way, and the human condition is the integral of all our individual efforts. Destiny always takes care of itself.

This isn't an effort to institute a grand plan or influence institutions. It's an offering that can influence the human heart, and is addressed to one being at a time. It's just one of the literally millions of things that are being done as a response to the crisis. It doesn't make any of the other things wrong, or replace any of them. It provides a context, a setting, that some people will find useful in organizing their own response. Others won't find it useful, or won't feel the need for it. That's as it should be.
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 10:58 AM
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21. We don't raise food
language often deceives - nature raises, not us. We just plant the seeds and hope to collect harvest - nature takes care of the raising.

We ourselves also plant ourselves, our communities as seeds of what may come. Many kinds of seeds, hopefully not a monoculture of homogenized Monsanto seeds...
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 02:41 PM
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22. Meat Computers with Cultural Programs
I just posted a slightly expanded version of my comment above on my web site as an article:

Meat Computers with Cultural Programs
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