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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 10:24 PM
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Tyre-oil conversion a real revolution


Converting discarded truck tyres into oil sounds far fetched but it’s a lucrative commercial enterprise that’s about to go nationwide. Warren-based company Green Distillation Technologies has proven its world-first technology during a three-month pilot program and has now gained local government permission for a $2.5million thermal treatment plant on the Oxley Highway.

A workforce of 30 will be trained on site and the Warren operation is set to become the headquarters of a network of similar plants planned for 40 locations across Australia. “Our operation is attracting international attention and the eventual aim is to expand overseas,’’ general manager operations Paul McKay told the Daily Liberal yesterday.

“The technology has been developed by metallurgist Dennis Randal and is the culmination of a lifetime of work.

“Old tyres are super heated at up to 600 degrees Celsius in an enclosed furnace but not allowed to burn. The process gives up gas and oil but the tyre remains intact and is easily crushed to create carbon and steel.

“The steel is sold for scrap metal and we are looking at options for the carbon. “The oil produced is better than diesel and is currently being used to run our furnace. As production increases oil will be stored on-site for short periods before being transferred to tankers.

“We are looking at markets for the oil but are also considering refining it ourselves for use in engines.’’

Mr McKay said the tyre-to-oil conversion concept had enormous potential for energy production and power generation. The plant was expected to process 1000 truck tyres per day, with an annual expectation of 300,000 tyres.

“The good news is that there is no smoke or pollution,’’ Mr McKay said. “Our plant can also be used to treat other material, including wheat stubble.’’

More: http://www.dailyliberal.com.au/news/local/news/environment/tyreoil-conversion-a-real-revolution/1957663.aspx
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 03:57 AM
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1. No smoke or pollution, just tons of CO2
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 07:53 AM
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2. Well, seeing as how you're Mr. Cornucopian, mathematically challenged all renewable
What would you do? Let the tyres sit there and become vectors for dengue fever?
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 10:16 AM
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5. Thanks for the clarification
We already knew you oppose renewable energy, now we know you don't consider CO2 to be a pollutant.

Glad we have that clarified.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 11:17 AM
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8. Um, watch out. You may be subject to having your thread filled with cut and paste excerpts
of the abstracts of "papers" that he obviously either didn't read, didn't comprehend or is trying to spin in such a way as to actually conflict with the authors were trying to express.

Or you may get large tracts of the same Mark V. Jacobson paper posted over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...

Or that graphic with the Venn diagrams with plotting made up variables.

Regrettably this place has become something of a comic strip, but it's OK if you have a sense of humor.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 11:29 AM
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9. Um...um...um...
Edited on Sun Oct-03-10 11:33 AM by NNadir
Why don't you google "Boudouard Reaction," and come back with a spectacular misinterpretation of what's being said.

I'm working pretty hard today, and could use a laugh.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 09:43 AM
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3. Sounds like a plan to me
we've got millions and millions of old tires just collecting water when it rains then the mosquitoes use them to breed in and there is no use for them that I know of except in the kilns of cement production at this point in time. You can bet your ass that there is a lot of pollution from that process too besides just co2.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 10:00 AM
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4. How do they get the 600 degrees C (1112F)? It's never been cost-efficient to...
get the oil out of tires before.

Trivia: The French, or maybe it was the Belgians, had this bright idea years ago to grind up tires and add them to the asphalt for roads. They apparently forgot, or ignored, how much oil is in a tire and after the first rain much of that oil came to the surface. The experiment did not end well.

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DrGregory Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 10:55 AM
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6. Where do you think we get asphalt?
The French, or maybe it was the Belgians, had this bright idea years ago to grind up tires and add them to the asphalt for roads.
============================================

Where do you think we get asphalt? We get it from OIL.
Asphalt is one of the constituents of oil at the
low volatility end of the scale.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asphalt

Asphalt is a sticky, black and highly viscous liquid or semi-solid that is present in most crude petroleums and in some natural deposits sometimes termed asphaltum...

In American English, asphalt (or asphalt cement) is the carefully refined residue from the distillation process of selected crude oils."

Dr. Greg

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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 11:03 AM
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7. I know where we get asphalt from, but it's a byproduct of crude, not...
Edited on Sun Oct-03-10 11:05 AM by TreasonousBastard
a refined product.

And it doesn't bleed out oil when it rains.

On edit...

OK smart guy, where does the 600C come from and how does this affect the efficiency of the tires to oil enterprise?




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