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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:05 PM Original message |
The self-righteousness of some gun-grabbers never ceases to amaze me... |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. You're A-Ok D378. |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Salud! |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. Is it really necessary to use terms like "gun-grabbers"? |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. It's not meant as a blanket term for all gun-control advocates |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Then why use it? Can't liberal gun owners come up with their own terms/agenda/ORGANIZATION? |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. See #14 |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
36. It's the 800 pound gorilla. |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. agreed |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. When speaking of the minority that desires complete confiscation of all privately-owned firearms... |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. Between "gun-grabbers" and "gun-nuts" the incivility is not one-sided. |
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SecularNATION (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
33. Yes... |
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SecularNATION (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. meant to say.. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 02:39 AM Response to Reply #33 |
49. Oh, but I like the shiny metal penis jokes! Then I get to show off my Mannlicher! |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 07:40 AM Response to Reply #33 |
53. If you think that's the reason the Dems havent' been winning elections.. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 08:33 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Such Democratic luminaries as Bill Clinton. Al Gore, and John Kerry believe voter perception that |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:01 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. You're dreaming. nt |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Sorry but it's you who is living in a fantasy world. n/t |
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SecularNATION (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #53 |
72. On the contrary.. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
39. The term "gun-grabbers" may offend some but calling DU's Guns forum the "Gungeon" offends me because |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 07:59 AM Response to Reply #39 |
55. All gun threads SHOULD BE IN THE GUN FORUM, NOT HERE |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 08:22 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Because the issue is not guns, it is the right to keep and bear arms primarily for self-defense and |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 08:31 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I remember when the gun forum was created... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 08:36 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. I've been a member of DU since 2001 and RKBA was relegated to the Guns forum or some such variant |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. There were alot of gun threads over a period of weeks in GD.... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. As I said, the Guns forum or variant was created early. I do know that as a growing pain, DU adopted |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Now you're being cute. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Can't you do any better than an ad hominem attack? n/t |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #39 |
63. Um...Excuse me, but... |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 02:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
48. Hmmm... you have a point, I think. At least this time. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
4. Project Much on the "We Alone"? "Gun Grabbers" Duh |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. "Self-Righteousness?" "Gun-Grabbers?" I can see you were really aiming for a reasoned argument here. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
7. How big is your weapons stockpile? I mean you sure are being |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. My own "stockpile" is my own personal concern... |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
9. Right on! It's almost as bad as the self-righteousness and.. |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Can't argue with you there... |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
10. Gee, that last NRA mailer must've been a real corker! |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
12. So if 92% of us agree that it is our constitutional right to own a gun |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Hey, I'm all about the 4th Amendment, too... |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
13. for most of a year, 2001 - 2002, |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. I see where you're going... |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. bullshit |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Yes you are |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. thanks for the info |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Yup. And it gives you the right to carry a musket! |
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SecularNATION (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. A musket? |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 07:38 AM Response to Reply #35 |
52. Do you think it would have been written that any INDIVIDUAL |
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SecularNATION (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
71. NO WAY?? |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #52 |
73. hate to make you feel stupid |
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EricTeri (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #52 |
74. How can you believe that... |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #52 |
77. Zanne, why do you hate the idea of |
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EricTeri (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. And the 1st Amendment... |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 07:55 AM Response to Reply #37 |
54. It's entirely different. |
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EricTeri (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #54 |
67. What's different about it? |
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SecularNATION (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #31 |
46. Then... |
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ac2007 (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #46 |
68. Better not tell them that muskets are cash-and-carry. |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Using guns to kill people is built into the US culture. On self-defense, |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. I think there is no doubt that many of them do |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
43. well self defense with firearms |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
18. Do you think that there should be any limit at all on who can carry guns around? |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. It's a worthy topic of discussion... |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I'm thinking about any kind of weapon that shoots bullets. It is so hard to |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I hear you... |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Thanks for the reasoned response. Now, I would risk it to say that most |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. on college students |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
80. I think the issue is allowing students with a CHL to carry on |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 02:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
50. Of course |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
25. The enforceability of the laws is more the question |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
27. You interpret the Second Amendment the way you want to. |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Well known that most restrictive gun laws got started as ways to keep black from arming, |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. "Cognitive dissonace" , indeed |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #27 |
70. Uh, read the www.georgiacarry.com brief on Heller. Gun-control=racism |
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WWFZD (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
38. Good post, another |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Welcome to DU! |
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WWFZD (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 05:28 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Thanks |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Glad to see you posting not lurking... |
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DemOkie (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
69. Great job Derby |
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Lex Talionis (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
75. This must be where I belong. |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Yep |
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Lex Talionis (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:47 PM Original message |
Imagine my suprise when I find kindred spirits here |
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Lex Talionis (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Imagine my suprise when I find kindred spirits here |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
78. Good post D378 |
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