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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:33 AM Original message |
LTTE “Obama and civil liberties”, what lies ahead if BO is our candidate |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
1. Notice there are no references...just accusations. A typical Republican hit piece. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Agree re "no references" but that's why it's published on the Opinion Page. A rebuttal LTTE is |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
2. Of all the reasons to vote against Obama - in the primary & in the general - this is the least valid |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Agree papau for some but many independents are influenced by a candidates position on RKBA. n/t |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. agree - but control doesn't step on right to bear arms - IMHO |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I agree with "control" in general but not "control" meaning "ban". n/t |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
3. Civil liberties? What does this moron know about Civil liberties? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I assume you know that RKBA is a civil right. n/t |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. So is the right to be secure in your home and the right not to have your phone taped by the feds. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. IMO those who support RKBA also support "the right to be secure in your home and the right not to |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. What ya been living in a cave the last 8 years or longer? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I said you imply those who support RKBA do not support "the right to be secure in your home and the |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. Where are the brave defenders of gun ownership on those 2 issues? |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. Do you personally know of ANYONE who is defending the 4A? |
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sergeiAK (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Yes, the ACLU |
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Turbo Teg (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. I'm sure no one likes |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. Some republicans have a major blind spot in that area |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
23. On another note: Obama & Hillary both brought up the "gun issue" in last week. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
4. Fortunately John Mccain shares with Obama an "F" from the NRA |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. But BO also said he wants to ban handguns. He can't have it both ways. n/t |
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Turbo Teg (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
27. I'm a dem |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. The GOP hasn't *actually* been gun-friendly since Nixon |
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enid602 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
5. if true |
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theredpen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
10. Of all the civil liberties that are threatened, the RKBA is the healthiest |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Odd isn't it? Don't worry about the rights you lost, as long as you have the 2nd you |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. "No fly - no buy" is a pretty serious threat to the RKBA |
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theredpen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Yikes! I hadn't heard about that one. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. If SCOTUS rules in favor of an individual's RKBA, in D.C. v. Heller, that will take it off the table |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. You should read "The End of America" by Naomi Wolf... |
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