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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:45 PM Original message |
Why I carry a Gun |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. What tripe. And I believe people should be allowed to own all the rifles they want. nt |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. How many rifles or handguns or shotguns do you believe a person should own to exercise their natural |
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Vini_Vidivici (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
78. As many................ |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
2. Suggest you check your assertions at GunCite link below. One error can destroy your argument. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. As a practical matter, once your government decides on genocide |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Looks like peasants with firearms and IED are doing pretty well in Afghanistan and Iraq. n/t |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm pretty ambivalent on the issue, I've been rethinking it |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:58 PM Original message |
IMO the issue is defense of self more than defense of (or against) state as so clearly stated by PA |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
11. The times before we thought it was our destiny |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Self-government as envisioned by the founders recognized natural rights that exist before government |
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Vini_Vidivici (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:00 AM Response to Reply #17 |
79. Absolutely |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
111. Pardon my ignorance. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
6. "I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place." There it is |
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tangent90 (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. You are so very fortunate to live where there is no chance whatsoever of being a victim. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. LOL, I've been in more life or death situations than you can imagine |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
74. OK Chuck Norris |
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tanngrisnir3 (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #74 |
93. Ninja, please. |
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HALO141 (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #13 |
109. blah blah blah.. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-11-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
112. Forking Paths |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I promise not to use my arms to help you when you are attacked by a criminal. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Oh, so that was you who wasn't around when I got jumped in an alley |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. So why do you deny those less physically capable than you their inalienable right to keep and bear |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. You ass u me that I'm denying something to somebody, |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Dance and spin all you want to but do you support the right of law abiding citizens to keep and bear |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Again with the failure at reading comprehension |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Have you considered ballet? You spin rather clumsily but, in a few few decades you might learn a |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Actually I took seven years of ballet when I was a kid, |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Have you considered asking for refunds from those ballet lessons? n/t |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:14 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. No, not really. Have you decided to debate actual points of this discussion |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. You really do need to either ask for a refund on those lessons or retake them. n/t |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Ah, so you're going for Option B, |
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tanngrisnir3 (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #14 |
41. Why post empty promises? What's the point? |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Being prepared is not the same as being fearful. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. You assume that I haven't been a target of violence, and that I'm young or younger |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Clever statements but you can't hide your intent of denying potential victims who are law-abiding |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Again, you are ass u me ing that I want your guns, |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Your posts clearly demonstrate your level of "mental strength". ROFLMAO n/t |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. At least I carry my peace of mind with me, where it belongs, in my head |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. We've reached agreement, you, carry a piece of your mind with you in your head. n/t |
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HALO141 (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #32 |
110. A pitty. I'm sure it gets lonely in there all by itself. n/t |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. That's fine. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Actually it isn't an assumption |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. your 'peer reviewed articles' prove only your bias |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
52. Wow, discounting scholastic peer reviewed articles because they disagree with your viewpoint |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:24 PM Response to Reply #52 |
71. Are you speaking of criminological journals, or medical journals? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 03:57 AM Response to Reply #71 |
85. exactly |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. Link to one then. I'd love to see it. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Sorry, but being as most peer reviewed journals are pay for sites, |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 01:51 AM Response to Reply #55 |
81. You claim facts you can't back up and then accuse others of ignorance, that's some funny shit. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 09:34 AM Response to Reply #81 |
90. A lot of the relevant portions of the literature he/she speaks of |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #90 |
100. I wonder why MadHound hasn't responded? |
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tanngrisnir3 (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #100 |
108. He's already won, just like he does against firearms, in his mind. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. the illogical "fear canard" |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Well if you're going to go by the numbers, |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Prove your assertion "distinct minority of people carry guns". n/t |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. 34.5% of Americans report that they own a gun |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Anyone who cites VPC, an avowed gun-ban organization, is suspect as are you. There are perhaps 80+ |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Hey, at least I'm giving you a source |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. I'm so very sorry, I over estimated your ability. Link below to DU thread re 80+ million. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. So let's do some math here |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 04:04 AM Response to Reply #57 |
86. man, take an analytical reasoning class |
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madville (743 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #57 |
92. 12% of the population carries a firearm, 53% isn't allowed to carry |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
69. Pssssttt..... |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. whether or not they "see the need" |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. So then you choose to give in to your fear of the unknown |
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tanngrisnir3 (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. You seem to have succumbed to a self-induced faux Chuck Norris syndrome |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
58. Ah, so I'm making up all those articles I mentioned? |
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tanngrisnir3 (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. No, I wasn't addressing the studies, so there are no facts from them... |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Ah, so you don't want knowledge that might contradict your current mindset |
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tanngrisnir3 (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Sorry, this isn't about that; it has nothing to do with what you've cited |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Ah, so rather than discussing the topic of this thread |
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tanngrisnir3 (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. No, no outrage in the least. Sorry that makes you so uncomfy. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #21 |
56. whoops, answered wrong post |
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Furyataurus (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
95. I carry |
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Vini_Vidivici (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
101. That seems to be...................... |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. You seem very determined to tell everyone that it is not fear that motivates you to carry a handgun |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. it is a valid analogy |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. You can call it insurance or whatever you want |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #37 |
70. Neither am I. But I choose to on occasion. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 03:48 AM Response to Reply #70 |
84. bravo |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 03:37 AM Response to Reply #37 |
83. again, you go from one to another |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #83 |
91. You can rationalize it any way you choose to |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 07:55 AM Response to Reply #37 |
87. Do police carry guns out of fear? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #87 |
98. bingo |
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Vini_Vidivici (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #25 |
102. I don't think it's an attempt to not be thought of as "unmanly", but......... |
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Thirtieschild (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
36. It's awfully easy to generalize. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
49. First of all, I'm not generalizing |
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Furyataurus (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #49 |
94. Tell that |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
67. Reality not fear. |
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DeadEyeDyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 12:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
80. I carry a gun for the same reason I wear a seat belt... |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 08:25 AM Response to Reply #6 |
89. "unreasonable fear" |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
9. I don't even carry a watch or a wallet. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
46. Even on Du, the ode to the phallus is alive and well |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:13 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Sigmund Freud said " A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity " n/t |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. I think you need to look in the mirror |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:43 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. "look in the mirror" and you will be even more offended. n/t |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #53 |
76. Even defending guns offends you... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 02:04 AM Response to Reply #76 |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #82 |
96. Only the people terrified of guns |
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tanngrisnir3 (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #82 |
97. You don't seem to address this issue with much mental acuity or clarity |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #97 |
105. You obviously missed the point too |
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tanngrisnir3 (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. No, it's just that your 'point', as it were, was trite and irrelevant. |
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Vini_Vidivici (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #46 |
104. Wow, can't argue with logic like that, huh. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. Deleted sub-thread |
Burma Jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
54. Oh Well |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
68. We all should just have Madhound with us |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. MadHound is the Dr. Manhattan of the human psyche here at DU |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 11:02 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. What if his power gets in the wrong hands |
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yay (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
72. Holy shit, this thread kinda exploded |
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Vini_Vidivici (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
77. Good on you for being prepared! |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
88. I don't need a reason to carry a gun, it is my right to do so. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #88 |
99. well put |
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Vini_Vidivici (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-08-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. Absolutely......... |
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