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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 01:56 PM Original message |
Specter Says No To Assault Weapons Ban, WHY doesn’t Obama? |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. Geez louise, do you care about anything but guns? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I care about all equal rights, do you? n/t |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Of course I do. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Then you care about the Second Amendment. Glad you are with me. n/t |
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walkaway (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. You should read the second amendment again. |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Not to mention 'arms' is a military term |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Read D.C. v. Heller and find out how wrong you are. n/t |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Don't flame me |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Please read D.C. v. Heller as I suggested because SCOTUS answers your question. n/t |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. I just read it and I still have the same confusion |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Quoted below from page 7 of Heller: |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Very good |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #32 |
155. But the court was unanimous on this point: |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
37. You mean that EXTREME Right Wing Scotus the one that selected Bush*? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. You say "Ask any cop in America how they feel about it". I have and most LEO support RKBA so prove |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #37 |
132. Of course the liberal justices agreed the 2nd Amendment protected the INDIVIDUALS right to bear arms |
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rollingrock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
81. The SCOTUS also handed Bush the election in 2000 |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #81 |
91. What does that have to do with the OP and thread? n/t |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
39. So you put more stock in "Fat Tony" and his merry band of GOP appointed misfit judges... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. The dissents by Stevens and Breyer did not explicitly rule out RKBA being an unenumerated right |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. You obviously didn't read the dissents |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. SCOTUS acknowledges stare decisis and please read DU link below. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. The USSC is not bound by stare decisis |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. SCOTUS has no opinion != SCOTUS has ruled like this.. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #70 |
80. I said nothing of an opinion |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. "all because it considered the matter settled" |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. So why do you think they refused all the other challenges on the same grounds? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #88 |
97. 'without comment' means without comment.. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #97 |
103. It doesn't mean without reason |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. I said "SCOTUS acknowledges stare decisis" not "USSC is bound by stare decisis". Please read more |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. So your statement is even more irrelevant |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. No, the irrelevant things are your posts to this thread. Have a nice day. n/t |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #92 |
107. Well, irrelevant to you perhaps, but I think I'll somehow get past that, considering the source |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #68 |
153. 74 years of bad law and you know it............ |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
133. It's settled law get over it. You lost we won. |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 11:29 PM Response to Reply #39 |
143. My god |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
44. The Roberts court, which is WRONG on EVERYTHING else, |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. See # 47. n/t |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. A well regulated militia... nt |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Well regulated like your colon, not your bank. n/t |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. See the law of the land discussion below. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. Who, exactly, is making these arguments? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. This branch of the thread is re your statement "44. The Roberts court, which is WRONG on EVERYTHING |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #73 |
83. So that would be the arguments made in 'Heller' by the most |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. You assert "When have these guys judged ANYTHING right?" implying that every decision has been wrong... |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #57 |
144. It really dosen't matter what you think |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
101. To be fair, they didn't actually ignore it |
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DrCory (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 06:37 AM Response to Reply #44 |
150. Wrong on Boumediene v. Bush? N/T |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #44 |
156. They no longer exist. |
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Pullo (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
173. The OPERATIVE CLAUSE is "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Read SCOTUS decision D.C. v. Heller that acknowledges a pre-existing individual right. n/t |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. The attorney general says he has no interest in overturning that |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. "overturning that" in reply to my post re D.C. v. Heller? What is your point? n/t |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. You start the thread expressing some fear over the AWB |
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patriotvoice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
76. The syntax and semantics argument is well debunked, |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
102. You don't seem to understand the difference between a militia and a standing army |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
137. Someone needs to read RI's free press clause. |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 11:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
142. Read the DC vs Heller decision |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #10 |
154. You must have missed Heller. |
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raimius (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 01:44 AM Response to Reply #154 |
179. You are forgetting the "unorganized militia" |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 11:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
141. And why is it unhealthy |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
159. We are not talking about rights here. We regulate all rights. We are not talking about |
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inkool (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #159 |
162. What is an Assult like weapon? |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:40 PM Response to Reply #162 |
175. The second amendement doesn't say you can own automatic weapons. nm |
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inkool (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 06:34 AM Response to Reply #175 |
176. I am well aware of that... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #159 |
171. Sorry, we are talking about rights here. Any law that bans a class of arms infringes upon RKBA. |
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tucsonlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 11:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
146. Might As Well Save Your Breath, tridim My Friend |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 02:10 AM Response to Reply #146 |
148. Just for the record |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #148 |
163. Yeah, but it was bullshit as usual. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:11 AM Response to Reply #146 |
151. Please state a particular aspect of RKBA you wish to debate and I'll give it a try. As for other |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #146 |
161. Tucsonlib hits the nail on the head. |
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umccoyw (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
152. this is the gun forum what do you expect to be discussed here. n/t |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. Delete |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
6. So now |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. "litmus test", you are really kidding but it is one more Dem vote to protect the civil right |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
31. The second amendment says nothing about assault weapons as |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Do you know what an "assault weapon" is? n/t |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. As written in the bill or as in your mind? |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. That is one of my issues the ban |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. Or as defined in HR 1022 that died in the last congress that would have given the attorney general |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #53 |
109. No I can't. I've managed to live 45 years without needing or owning a gun |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. Have a nice day and remember, self-defense is a personal responsibility because gov. is not |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #112 |
124. Damn Jody! You're knocken down fast on this post! GREAT JOB! |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #124 |
134. Thanks! |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #109 |
165. That's fine... |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Most of the modern guns didn't exist back in those days |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #35 |
125. Please read the last paragraph in post 38 for clarification. |
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Iktomiwicasa (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 09:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
136. Actually, I do |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
90. Yeah, the founding fathers would have |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #90 |
110. You know what you are right. Remove all limits. |
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yay (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #110 |
123. Woo, nice straw man dude. N/T |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #110 |
127. I believe the O.P. is regarding the supposed AWB. Nice try though. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #110 |
166. On Restrictions on weapons. |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #90 |
126. And quill and parchment under the 1A. Only a "real" newspaper could |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
145. So now we're going to have the |
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DrCory (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 05:22 AM Response to Reply #31 |
149. Yet Another Mentalist... |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:09 AM Response to Reply #31 |
164. They surely did. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
64. Specter is not alone in in the Democratic party with this stance. |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
8. Specter also says "no" to a lot of other stuff |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. The 9th circuit held the 2nd was incorporated in the 14th and SCOTUS will probably agree. What is |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
71. "I guess the 14th is not as important as the 2nd though.". |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
11. Are you in lust with the barrel of an AK47 or something? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Your ad hominem attack is a useless defense against facts. n/t |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #17 |
36. The facts are |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Please read the dissents by Stevens and Breyer in Heller. n/t |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #36 |
49. Uh, you're going against hundreds of years of legal precedent there. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
52. Try this one on for size.. |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. That's it exactly. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. That's not an uncommon construct from the time period.. |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #63 |
82. The syntactical pattern |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #82 |
96. Ehn.. sorta.. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 09:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
140. Another poster that needs to read Rhode Islands free press clause. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #36 |
167. One problem. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
16. I'm fine with Obama simply never mentioning the AWB again. nt |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
20. Have you ever made one post on any subject other than guns? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Yes. n/t |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. OMG where? I need to see this! |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. If you don't know how to search, then you have a personal problem. n/t |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. So far my search has come up with nothing but guns.... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Apparently you have a personal problem. n/t |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
24. He voted against waiting periods? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
117. We had waiting periods for five years after the Brady Act was passed |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
25. Gun control's not gonna happen this year. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Agree but Obama still maintains his support for renewing the Assault Weapons Ban. n/t |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
50. good. (n/t) |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #50 |
130. Bad. (n/t) |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
66. Thank goodness. Glad to have someone with sense on this issue |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 01:50 AM Response to Reply #66 |
147. Can you articulate what the difference is between an "assault weapon" and a hunting rifle? |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
26. Here's a current version of "the list" |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Thanks. n/t |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
41. Because, up until today, Specter was a Republican... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. From #26 Baucus (MT), Begich (AK), Casey (PA), Feingold (WI), Landrieu (LA), Ben Nelson (NE), |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
56. because I believe that President Obama is like me and would like to reinstitute the ban |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. So you oppose the civil right exercised by 80+ million gun-owners, most of which were among the |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Our founding fathers didn't own assault rifles |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. The OP and thread is about "assault weapons", not "assault rifles" that have been tightly regulated |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. They didn't own handguns either |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Actually.. |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. You're right |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Still, interesting question.. |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. LOL, I can see why they thought that |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #87 |
106. "self-loading" vs "manual-loading" |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #72 |
113. Yes they did own handguns |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. I already admitted I was wrong |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. Cool, I hadn't seen your other post |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:38 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. You fired it yet? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #121 |
128. I haven't received it yet - It's somewhere between Memphis and San Diego |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:58 PM Response to Reply #65 |
94. Why do you think the ban is a good idea? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #65 |
129. The firearms they did own as personal weapons were the same as those used by soldiers at war |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. IIRC our militia had superior weapons than the redcoats. |
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Iktomiwicasa (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 09:40 PM Response to Reply #131 |
138. Actually... |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #65 |
168. Yes they did. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #65 |
172. They didn't have blogs, word processing software, or podcasts either |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #65 |
178. So, restrict the 1st Am. to the printing press? |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
74. Well.... |
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rollingrock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
86. Isn't Specter a Repuke? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:58 PM Response to Reply #86 |
95. "Isn't Specter a Repuke?" You are too funny for words, have a nice day and don't bother to read |
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walnutpie (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #86 |
100. Because it is the opinion... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #86 |
104. I guess you haven't heard the news about Specter |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
93. Listen DUers, |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:02 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. Thank you |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #98 |
105. JonLP24 you and Enthusiast tried but often your/our message never gets to those DUers who remain |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Thanks for showing me the definition of arms |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #93 |
157. Something I never understood. Why do hunting rifles need to be semi-automatic? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #157 |
158. How many hunters have you personally seen use the "spray method"? n/t |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #158 |
160. Why do you need a semi-automatic for hunting? nm |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #160 |
170. AGAIN, How many hunters have you personally seen use the "spray method"? n/t |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #170 |
174. Let's face it Jody, it isn't about hunting is it? nm |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 08:18 AM Response to Reply #174 |
177. RKBA is about self-defense so why in a thread about RKBA did you post # 157 about hunting? n/t |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #157 |
169. Because they work really well, that's why. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
99. We agree that it is a losing issue for DEMS. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
111. Why can't these STUPID, LAZY reporters get it right? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. They are just as ignorant as many DUers who are afraid to visit DU's Guns forum for an education. nt |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #114 |
120. Looks like anyone who wants to read this thread has to go to the Guns forum now... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #120 |
135. The best way to keep DUers ignorant of 2nd Amendment facts is to quasi censor discussion by moving |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
115. Because the smartest thing to do is to not even touch the issue |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #115 |
122. Politically smart.. |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
118. This has to go through Congress first. THE PEOPLE HAVE TO PUSH IT FIRST. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
139. My SINCERE THANKS to all pro-RKBA Dems who contributed to this thread. Even though it didn't survive |
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