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jeepnstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 09:43 AM
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Violence and Chicago in the News.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/04/state-reps-want-to-fight-violence-with-national-guards-help.html.

2 Chicago state reps: Bring in the National Guard

In part...

Two state representatives called on Gov. Pat Quinn Sunday to deploy the Illinois National Guard to safeguard Chicago's streets.

Chicago Democrats John Fritchey and LaShawn Ford said they want Quinn, Mayor Richard Daley and Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis to allow guardsmen to patrol streets and help quell violence. Weis said he did not support the idea because the military and police operate under different rules.

"Is this a drastic call to action? Of course it is," Fritchey said. "Is it warranted when we are losing residents to gun violence at such an alarming rate? Without question. We are not talking about rolling tanks down the street or having armed guards on each corner."

What he envisions, Fritchey said, is a "heightened presence on the streets," particularly on the roughly 9 percent of city blocks where most of the city's violent crimes occur.

Weis previously identified those "hot spots" and said he plans to create a 100-person team made up of selected and volunteer police personnel to respond to crime there. If guardsmen were to assist police, they could comprise or contribute to that force, Fritchey said.

So far this year, 113 people have been killed across Chicago, the same number of U.S. troops killed in Iraq and Afghanistan combined in the same period, Fritchey said.


What a mess. If the gang problem is that far out of control maybe the City should seriously look into what it's police force is actually doing.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 09:52 AM
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1. Pass another gun law to "get tough of crime". And repeat. . .
Edited on Mon Apr-26-10 09:53 AM by Hoopla Phil
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 10:29 AM
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2. They're coming in from Indiana and downstate. We need a national crackdown.
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 10:35 AM
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3. Here, fixed it for you
We need a national crackdown on thugs who illegally acquire weapons and illegally carry them, using them to commit crime and shoot wherever, at whoever, whenever.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 10:38 AM
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4. All that does is incarcerate. Try making guns and ammo scarce.
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 10:43 AM
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5. Try making guns and ammo scarce
Edited on Mon Apr-26-10 10:51 AM by shadowrider
Yup, sure worked with drugs. And by the way, incarcerate them and crime will dramatically drop.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:16 AM
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6. It looks like the technology exists
to make your vision a reality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5_Msrdg3Hk&feature=fvsr

"Make them scarce". :rofl:
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jazzhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:56 AM
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8. There's that childish bankrupt argument *once again*.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 12:53 PM
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10. Make criminals scarce.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 04:56 PM
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12. Like crack and weed? Win the drug war first, then move on(nt)
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:24 PM
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13. So you want to make old people defenseless against violent young felons. N/T
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jeepnstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:47 AM
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7. Then why is this only a big deal in Chicago?
What's making them so special? How's their murder rate looking compared to previous years?

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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 12:51 PM
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9. No they don't. They need their civil rights restored. Your "solution" would
lead to guns being smuggled in along with the drugs. You will NEVER keep thugs from having arms - only those that obey the law would be debarred of arms. What a tragic situation that would be, as it is now - and you would wish that on ALL of us. Shame on you Shares - Shame!
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 04:52 PM
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11. Never going to happen.
I'm sorry, you'll never get a chance to inform on your neighbors to the nice man in the suit who promises you "safety".
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