US opposes Seoul’s bid to sell old rifles

[white cloud]

This email story I got from a freeper. O look at what the Demo are doing again! I goggled it and it is coming from freerepublic. Funny these storys only show up on freeper sites??? The article does not say whom with in the US G opposed the sale. Sounds like they a re generating e turd hate mail again. Any thoughts other than sit backa nd listen to it on Beckkk Faux on Monday

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2010/08/205_71329.html

[oneshooter]

1. Probably the same people that had once fired brass shredded, and not sold to reloaders. n/t

[white cloud]

4. more false hood and lie IMO

I keep up with this story some. I have a feeling it was a setup and then up popped 2 Republican senators to take care of matter. IMO the whole thing was another planned freeper e turd to send out.

Do you have some information on the true Black Hills story?

[one-eyed fat man]

7. Demil requirements for brass

http://www.govliquidation.com/list/e6984/lna/1.html

Here is a bid request for 6 month contract for Yakima firing ranges, Fort Lewis, WA 75,000 pounds of once fired brass. This is a closed bid from 2008, note the DEMIL B requirement.

The DOD announced in March of 2009 that the brass would have to be crushed. Certain large scale reloaders, most notably Black Hills and Georgia Arms notified the buying public. The Defense Logistics Agency quickly rescinded the change. It is old news that was true and quickly resolved.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/casings.asp

As you can see on Snopes, while the brass situation has gone back to what it had been, the e-mails started a years and half ago keep coming back. The people who want to believe it was some secret conspiracy by anti-gun wackos to dry up ammo supplies will keep believing it, despite the fact most anti-gun wackos didn't know ammo could be reloaded. (Think Carolyn "shoulder thingy" McCarthy)

[old mark]

2. Some idiot in the government probably said this....The M1 rifles are very prized

as range rifles, target rifles and collectables and these rifles-PROVEN Korean war relics- would be very highly prized. They are a large, heavy rifle with almost NO potential use in crime.
Their entire system is obsolete. They load from the top with an 8 shot spring clip..that is the most they hold, 8 shots. They are an auto-loading rifle-the trigger must be pulled for each shot, then the rifle loads the next round for firing. It weighs nearly 9 pounds, and can be very accurate, but it takes some practice to learn to shoot well.
They are available in the US now, and the junkers that need rebuilding sell for around $500...Rebuilt issue rifles are around $1000 each.

"banning" their import for fear of crime use or accidents is idiotic and I hope this changes soon...I want one.

mark

[oneshooter]

6. Most, if not all, of the Korean rifles I have seen

were nearly, or totally worn out. Most needed new barrels, op rods and stocks and the metal refinished.. One of the ones that I shot would keyhole at 50yds! Due to the use of metal cleaning rods with no muzzle guard the barrels have the last 3/4"or so completely smooth.

I hope that they aren't going to ask $500-700 for them, most are IMHO in the $250-400 range.

They have some 20,000 Garands and 30,000 Carbines available. And I wonder how many of the carbines are M2's!

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[old mark]

8. I'd love a junker for $250-I'd rebuild it myself. I had a Garand once and sold it,

but I would not mind having a real Korean war vet M-1...


mark

[X_Digger]

3. Funny, since the US actually sells those through the CMP

http://www.thecmp.org/m1garand.htm

[one-eyed fat man]

5. Civilian Marksmanship Program

From 1916 until 1996 the CMP was administered by the U.S. Army. The Office of the Director of Civilian Marksmanship (DCM) was created by the U.S. Congress as part of the 1903 War Department Appropriations Act. The original purpose was to provide civilians an opportunity to learn and practice marksmanship skills so they would be skilled marksmen if later called on to serve in the U.S. military.

PLANS A GREAT ARMY OF EXPERT MARKSMEN; Scheme of National Board for Promotion of Rifle Practice. $5,000,000 FOR RANGES Would Distribute Krag Carbines to Military and Public Schools -- Trophies and Badges for Competition.

New York Times October 17, 1904

The National Board for the Promotion of Rifle Practice (NBPRP), an advisory board to the Secretary of the Army, which was created in 1903. While initially supported widely and the impetus for building firing ranges in most big city high schools through the Fifties, the program had its opponents in Congress. Starting in the Sixties this opposition finally resulted in Public Law 104-106, 10 February 1996 which disestablished DCM and the NBPRP and replaced it with the quasi-governmental ODCMP.

[era veteran]

9. You ever buy from CMP?

I was wondering if it was a hassle. I need a Springfield.

[Straw Man]

10. Good luck on that Springfield...

...because they're sold out of them until at least 2011. The Springfields tend to go out pretty quick, and the quality of the ones they're getting is slowly declining as resources dry up.

Other than that it's not a huge hassle buying from CMP. I've never done it, but a friend of mine purchased an M1 carbine through them. You have to be a member of a qualifying club or organization. See the website for more details:

http://www.odcmp.com/

Then it's just a question of a lot of waiting.

[era veteran]

11. Thanks, maybe I'll rejoin the Legion.

I saw the 2011, that will give me the time. R

[one-eyed fat man]

12. Buying from CMP is no hassle

I am retired military, my ID card is qualification enough.

Your application must include proof of firearms activity unless you are in one the following categories:

* Active duty military, Reserves and Retirees – Submit a copy of your military ID card.
* Veterans – Submit a copy of your DD214 (discharge papers showing honorable discharge.
* Age 60 or older – Submit proof of age.
* Handicapped or disabled and cannot participate in a qualifying match - submit a physicians report with application.

http://www.odcmp.com/faqs.htm

You can do it through the mail. I just usually shop the Camp Perry store when I am up there for a match. The only problem with the Springfields coming back from Legion or VFW Posts is that they have shot tons of corrosive blanks at funerals over the past 50 years and the bores are almost always rough.

That being said, you can still luck out an get a nice one, or like one I got that was modified for the Pedersen device.