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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 08:58 PM
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SAF sues Chicago again; CeaseFire exec reveals anti-gun mindset
On Monday, the Second Amendment Foundation filed another lawsuit against the City of Chicago, challenging the city’s new gun control ordinance that seems to have been deliberately designed to invite legal action.

“While the city has adopted new regulations that make it legal to own handguns,” said SAF Executive Vice President Alan M. Gottlieb, “they have crafted this new ordinance to make it virtually impossible for prospective gun owners to meet all legal requirements unless they travel outside the city for mandatory training.”
Privately, Gottlieb has suggested that the city administration under Mayor Richard Daley “needs adult supervision.” They have adopted a gun ownership scheme “in name only.” The ordinance had already drawn one lawsuit, and now there is another.

While Chicago authorities seem content to annoy gun owners and essentially spit on the high court’s ruling in McDonald, the executive director of Washington CeaseFire, has some interesting perspectives on that ruling, according to the South Seattle Beacon. CeaseFire’s Jenny Quynn suggested that “sensible regulation” of firearms has to do with identifying where guns are and who has them, and for what purpose. She also offers the tired argument that gun ownership is some sort of “public health issue.”

“We want out state to be a model of regulation and not a place known for gun violence,” she said.


http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-seattle/saf-sues-chicago-again-ceasefire-exec-reveals-anti-gun-mindset


Round 2, maybe 3 starts!

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 08:59 PM
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1. 'CeaseFire exec reveals anti-gun mindset'
Edited on Tue Aug-17-10 09:02 PM by geckosfeet
Oh. My. God.

I'm sorry. But why is this a surprise?
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:51 PM
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6. Not really a suprise.
But you'd think that a dog that whipped would have learned not to pee on the floor by now.

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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 05:42 AM
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9. If you you think gun control advocacy is ever going away you are wrong.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 08:33 AM
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10. I can dream... n/t
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 08:43 AM
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11. I don't think you people are going away
and I hope you don't, I do enjoy the ass kicking you and your kind are getting on a daily basis and I truly enjoy the dumbshit posts from your kind.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 11:17 AM
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15. No, but I do hope that the irrtionality of gun control advocacy will go away.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 01:22 PM
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18. I believe it was Jared Diamond ("Guns, Germs and Stell") who said...
that one of the chief means for the rise of the modern state kleptocracy was to disarm civilians, leaving the state with the sole source of violence. Not the only means, but the first on Diamond's list.

There are some in DU and elsewhere who seem to welcome this. Why, I do not know.
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 10:51 AM
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13. Well, it IS rather telling
To be precise, it's rather telling that you aren't surprised that the executive director of Washington state CeaseFire would reveal an "anti-gun mindset." See, gun control advocates tend to try to couch their language in terms of "we're not against all guns, we just want 'reasonable, common-sense regulation' and a select few, like licensed private security guards and rich people and jewel merchants would still be able to carry guns to protect their property, and hunters and trap shooters could still have long guns provided they keep them locked up at the gun club, but we're not 'against guns' really we aren't."

So when you react with, in so many words, "she's the head of gun control group, of course she's anti-gun" it demonstrates that nobody buys into the bullshit of "reasonable, common-sense regulation" and that we all know such regulation is intended to impose de facto gun bans without actually imposing de jure gun bans.
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 09:04 PM
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2. More like
anti constitutional mindset. Bring it on and watch the anti's take an ass beating again and again.
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Bold Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 09:09 PM
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3. I wonder if the mayor has some sort of connection with the firm that is
representing the city in all these lawsuits. Maybe he has a reason to keep the city in court.
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east texas lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:20 PM
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17. See post #16...
Figures, doesn't it?
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east texas lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 09:32 PM
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4. “We want our state to be a model of regulation and not a place known for gun violence,” she said.
Well, they certainly are the former, and while that remains true they will never achieve the latter.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 10:52 PM
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7. More like the text-book example of how to set yourself up...
Edited on Tue Aug-17-10 10:54 PM by PavePusher
for open-and-shut Civil Rights violations law suites.

Some people never learn...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4

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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 04:56 AM
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8. Note that Ms Quynn is the director of Washington (state) CeaseFire
She's not talking about Illinois or Chicago, but about Washington state.

What she actually says is pretty innocuous, on its face, but when anyone starts talking about "sensible regulation" of firearms, I crank my skepticism up a notch. In my experience, it's generally code for "laws that harass legal gun owners without actually doing anything to stop violent crime."
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jazzhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 10:27 AM
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12. My observation as well.

In my experience, it's generally code for "laws that harass legal gun owners without actually doing anything to stop violent crime.


California's laws would be a great example of this, most recently the ammunition law set to go into effect 02/01/2011.
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 11:09 AM
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14. You know
if I were smart, I would set up a gun store right on the CA-NV border on I-15 right there in Primm and I bet I would sell a hell of a lot of ammo to Californians. Because of my experience with a CHP officer in Pahrump, who used to live here in Pahrump several years ago, i like to tweak his nose every now and then and take my legal AR-15 right to the CA-NV border on NV372 and just stand there with it knowing that he can't do shit to me and I know it just galls him that he can't touch me, he has complained to the local S.O. but they have told him that I am not breaking any NV laws and there is nothing they can do, and I think they enjoy telling him that because this guy is a world class prick.
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-10 09:55 PM
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5. Setting them up for the...


And the Chicago taxpayer will be writing some more checks...
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:08 PM
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16. It's not Daley's Money anyway
It's only tax money and heck, we graduated almost 49% of our high school students this year and we're only down about 1000 street cops because he won't sign a contract with the union. It's not like there's anything else he could use that money for.

But what's a few more million $ channeled thorough the law firm where his brother is a senior partner to fight a SCOTUS decision.

Pass a law requiring approved gun training with time on a shooting range, then ban all gun stores and shooting ranges. No conflict or problem there!

Daley is a stupid little thug and bully.
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