Looks like the 'Obama is gonna take yur guns' rumor was simply the industry drumming up business

[DainBramaged]

And so so many stoopid people believed it.


He hasn't Governed from the Left, why would taking guns away even be a pinpoint of light on his horizon?


Columbus Day, let's have pizza!!!!!


http://griperblade.blogspot.com/2009/04/obamas-gonna-take-your-guns.html (oops, forgot the link, sorry)

[spanone]

1. he never, ever uttered one word to warrant that charge, bullshit from the beginning

[DainBramaged]

2. And here is the perfect response from that link....

In the end, it's the right's own fears that screw the right winger. Practically addicted to fear, they're lost without something to panic over.

[AtheistCrusader]

15. Perhaps you never looked at Change.Org.

A new or renewed AWB was in our damn platform.

[Callisto32]

17. Nawww, he just posted it on his website.

How-fucking-DARE-we refer to his own website?!

[X_Digger]

3. Any reason you're posting something from April 2009?

*yawn*

http://www.ontheissues.org/domestic/barack_obama_gun_control.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-4jqZSEo0Q

http://change.gov/agenda/urbanpolicy_agenda/

Address Gun Violence in Cities: Obama and Biden would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6960824&page=1

eta: deaniac21 beat me to it. lol

[HopeHoops]

4. He wouldn't WANT my guns.

Well, he might want the Colt, and maybe the shotgun. It is a very old Sears model with fine woodwork. I doubt he really gives a shit about guns anyway. He has plenty of people surrounding him who are armed to the teeth and probably up the ass just in case.

[deaniac21]

5. This right winger was leading the charge...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6960824&page=1

[DainBramaged]

6. Oh yeah, pistol and ammunition sales non-withstanding......

In the end, it's the right's own fears that screw the right winger. Practically addicted to fear, they're lost without something to panic over.


I wonder how true that sentence is for many on the Left......

[SteveM]

19. Please read Obama's web site, and review the Democratic Platform...

there you will see continued calls for yet another "assault weapons ban," only more widespread and "permanent."

"I wonder how true that sentence is for many on the Left......"

Well, quit wondering. A few years back a survey on DU (left open for 3 days in GD) actually revealed that some 51% of DU members owned at least one firearm. Peruse other threads and you will see copious content about how DU members would wish the Democratic Party's RECORD for gun-control was removed.

I can never stop puzzling over gun-control/prohibitionist culture warriors whenever they bring up this argument that Obama is not going to take away your guns, etc. He has a RECORD of gun banning, the Democratic Party has an on-going RECORD of gun prohibition, AG Holder is on RECORD for re-instituting a ban.

Would you feel assured that Theodore Bilbo (if he were alive and president) had not proposed any anti-black legislation, even though his political life (and record) was virtually dedicated to suppressing blacks and maintaining apartheid? I wouldn't. Would his proposed inaction be the result of philosophical change or the result of the prospect of being bludgeoned politically?

You must admit it is the latter.

The President, his appointees and the Democratic Party's hierarchy has not changed their philosophy; they have merely been utterly cowed. A temporal victory for many, but thin ground for reassurance.

[Name removed]

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[spin]

9. However the renewal of the assault weapons ban in still in the Democratic Platform...

Firearms

We recognize that the right to bear arms is an important part of the American tradition, and we will preserve Americans’ Second Amendment right to own and use firearms. We believe that the right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation, but we know that what works in Chicago may not work in Cheyenne. We can work together to enact and enforce common- sense laws and improvements – like closing the gun show loophole, improving our background

check system, and reinstating the assault weapons ban, so that guns do not fall into the hands of terrorists or criminals. Acting responsibly and with respect for differing views on this issue, we can both protect the constitutional right to bear arms and keep our communities and our children safe.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/5580817/2008-Democratic-Party-Platform-Renewing-Americas-Promise

THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE! Draconian gun control is foolish and useless. The assault weapons ban did absolutely nothing except to make evil looking black rifles extremely popular. We have reasonable gun control in most areas of our country today. Some areas have gun control which is far too strict and hinders honest citizens from exercising the right to self defense in an effective manner.

Chicago and New York City are examples of areas with unnecessarily strict gun control laws. New York City seems to favor gun ownership and even concealed carry by the rich and influential such as Donald Trump while forbidding the poorer average citizen who actually MIGHT need a firearm for legitimate self defense.

For far too long we have fought a losing battle over gun control. The evidence is in. Despite what might seem to be commonsense, more firearms does not lead to more crime. Concealed carry does not lead to a return to the Hollywood fantasy of the Wild West.

The NRA will endorse 58 Democratic incumbents this year. That is driving the Republican Party and the conservatives absolutely crazy. They felt that they owned the RKBA issue. Well they were wrong. The NRA is not a branch of the Republican Party but it is a one issue organization. If a politician is pro-RKBA they support that politician.

[TommyO]

7. This is classic flamebait

locking

[cbayer]

8. Unlocking

When we originally discussed this thread, there was no link. Since one has been added, we have reconsidered and no longer feel this is flamebait.

We are, however, going to move it to the guns forum.

cbayer
DU Moderator

[onehandle]

10. But the gun industry lobby... I mean the anti-Obama conservative think tank... the NRA says so...

And continues to say so.

http://www.gunbanobama.com

[X_Digger]

12. Aww, you still sore over those 58 (D) house endorsements?

Here, have a cookie..

[krispos42]

16. I think the concern...

...well, to put in their terms, 'fear', is that if the Dem supermajorities in the House and Senate formed a unified front :rofl:



ahhhhh, that's funny, a unified Democratic front! :rofl: :rofl:




*chuckle*


*cough*



Anyway, if the Dems did pass something, like an amendment to an obscure or important bill that would restrict gun owners in some way, that Obama wouldn't use that amendment as a reason to veto the bill or influence Congress to change the final language in, say, committee or reconciliation.

In other words, Obama would not take to the pulpit and spew fire and brimstone against guns, but he also wouldn't stand up and defend the issue either. He would trade away for passing something else.

[SteveM]

20. No, Obama, AG Holder, and the Democratic Party say so. It's RECORD. nt

[lawodevolution]

11. In before the lock

[ManiacJoe]

13. The blog entry is from April 2009.

Ammo prices are coming back to "normal" as are the supplies.

As far as "Obama is gonna take yur guns" goes, it is basically a matter of him "wanting" to vs "trying" to. The wanting is well documented while the trying never happened.

[DonP]

14. Which gun industry insider wrote it into the party platform? ntxt

[benEzra]

18. And, of course, YOU'D never support a ban on "assault weapons" or "sniper rifles" or magazines...

and neither would anyone in Congress, right?

FWIW, I always believed Obama was smarter than to expend political capital propping up the "assault weapon" fraud, and I am gratified to see that this indeed turned out to be the case. The DLC/Third Way types are still trying to keep it alive, but without support from the White House, and that's a good thing.

[slackmaster]

22. The President wisely changed his tune on guns when he saw the writing on the wall

It's time for the DNC to do the same, and remove from the party platform the plank calling for a renewal of the failed federal "assault weapons" ban.

[aikoaiko]

23. Why pick this scab, now?

Seriously.

Anyone who paid any attention at all knows that the President campaigned on reauthorizing the Assault Weapons Ban (whose more recently incarnations as bills were even more draconian than the original), and with the House and Senate it was very possible for him to deliver. THe Brady Campaign gave him an F grade for breaking his promise.

Fortunately, he has abandoned this promise and so have other Democratic party leaders. If only others would too. In my opinion, the panic buying may have led to Obama's retreat on guns. When people on the left and right start spending lots of money during a recession to protect their access to certain firearms and ammo, its easy to see that the same motivation might carry over into voting booths.

The idiot blogger you cite is relying on ignorance of what happened during the campaign and the 14 years prior to skew history.