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drpepper67 Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 06:36 PM
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Wisconsin Assembly passes concealed carry bill; sends it to Walker
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/124289954.html

Wisconsin stands on the verge of becoming the 49th state in the country to allow citizens to carry concealed guns, after the state Assembly voted to legalize that practice Tuesday.

The measure passed 68-27 on a solid bipartisan margin.

The approval of the bill marks one more piece of long-blocked legislation that Republicans have been able to pass now that they control all of state government. The bill to allow the concealed carry of guns and other weapons like Tasers passed the Senate on a bipartisan vote last week, so approval in the Assembly sends the bill to Gov. Scott Walker, who supports the measure.
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 06:51 PM
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1. What I want to know from someone in WI maybe
is how the Reps were able to gain control of all of the state government?

I like this result but how screwed up did things need to be for them to gain control of everything?
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cognoscere Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 07:45 PM
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3. A few theories based on living among them for decades:
Single issue dominance; so what if Walker is trying to destroy the middle class and give away the state to his handlers? We're getting concealed carry. Yeehaw.
Fundamental stupidity; Let's face it, anybody who believes what Fux News spews and what comes out of Limba's ass, should be casting their ballots in a voting booth somewhere in an asylum.
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 07:52 PM
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5. So do you propose to shut down fux news and limba?
Are there any other parts of the BOR that you don't like?
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 08:15 PM
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6. Are you saying that
If the Dem predecessor signed before, then there would not be Walker? He did not run on any of this stuff. Some Texans mentioned the same thing about Ann Richards and Bush.
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 10:25 PM
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8. You left out the phase of the moon and the barometric pressure...
... to blame for the vote on concealed carry. I don't know that Fox or Limbaugh had much to do with it, but if you have some examples we'd love to see them and I'll stand corrected, ... or you can just admit you're making shit up.

Jeez, could you sound just a little more condescending?

Yeah the voters there are all too stupid and not nearly as smart as you are.

Never occurred to you that this was the 3rd pass through the legislature? If Doyle hadn't of played games with the veto override vote twice this might be old news.

But since it did make it through the legislature 3 times ... maybe, just maybe, it's what the majority of the voters want. The same way they did in every other state that has passed it, including yours, unless of course you live in beautiful and gun free Illinois.
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 07:32 PM
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2. We'll take this as a win no matter how small it may be.
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Blown330 Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 07:46 PM
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4. I think this is a pretty big win.
Going from no CCW to a fairly well rounded CCW shall issue process is a big leap. Just one more state to go. Not a matter of "if" but "when" too.
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Pullo Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 08:17 PM
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7. Big Win .....
but not Epic Win.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 11:21 PM
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9. I'd like to go in his office & sit my handguns on his desk...
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 07:17 AM
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11. Why? To get your picture in the paper and evening news?
Just like the baggers at their rallies with rifles over their shoulders?

Or do you think that would be perceived as something other than a threat?

Walker didn't write the bill or even run on passing concealed carry as far as I can tell. The same bill has come to the Governor's desk twice before and Doyle vetoed it, then played funny with the veto override vote.

There were also plenty of Dems that voted this through in the house and senate, so it's not a pure GOP idea, it's a popular idea with the citizens and has been for some time.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 05:47 PM
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16. I remember an elderly lady who decided to show her newly purchased ...
Taurus Judge to a local judge in his office in the county court house.

He appropriated it and called her son and turned the weapon over to him.



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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 05:10 AM
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10. My prediction.

I predict that the blood will not run in the streets, there won't be CCW people blazing away in crowds over imagined slights. In fact, not much will happen escept the suburbs of Chicago that are across the state line in WI will start having some nervous street criminals. After few of years we can look for WI to enact "Stand Your Ground Laws" and Castle Doctrine, and Civil Suit Protection.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 10:00 AM
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12. A stupid GOP/NRA bill, passed by a stupid GOP/NRA Assembly, signed by the Uber-Moran Scott Walker
the suckage

the suckage

yup
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 10:04 AM
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13. ... and supported by 6 Dems in the Senate and more in the House.
Edited on Wed Jun-22-11 10:05 AM by DonP
Bi-partisan support and votes in both houses.

But keep making shit up for pure entertainment value. It would be nice if just once in a while there was a grain of truth in there somewhere.

The House minority leader (D) has already announced he's applying for a permit.
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 10:15 AM
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14. fucking unbelievable.
Yup

Yup

Yup
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 03:22 PM
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15. Odd discription of a bill with strong bipartisan support
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 05:57 PM
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17. Some who post here fail to understand that many Democrats support gun ownership ...
and the right to legally carry concealed.

Many Democrats use a commonsense approach and base their opinion on gun control issues on facts and statistics. Others have a more emotional response and a few have an absolute hatred against guns.

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Pullo Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 06:40 PM
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18. More than anything, they are resentful of the political power wielded by RKBA supporters
Edited on Wed Jun-22-11 06:40 PM by Pullo
They are a frustrated bunch as well.

The gun control crowd does not quite get why they are slipping into irrelevance. When they get called out on their ignorance of firearms, their replies consist of something like "I'm with Stupid, dammit." They stay willfully ignorant and act like knowledge about guns is an STD.
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