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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 10:06 AM
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Obama's DOJ strikes again. No guns for medicinal cannabis users.
This is being discussed in a different thread referenced below. Cannabis is not addictive, this makes no sense. It makes about as much sense as telling anyone that drinks alcohol that they can't own a gun.

Anyway, I'm just posting this here FYI. This ruling makes absolutely no sense to me and is yet one more restriction on gun ownership IMO.

"The ban on gun use by medical-marijuana patients nationwide came in a U.S. Department of Justice letter sent Sept. 21 to state and county prosecutors across the country. The directive says: "Any person who uses or is addicted to marijuana, regardless of whether his or her State has passed legislation authorizing marijuana use for medicinal purposes ... is prohibited by Federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2035316

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fredamae Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 10:32 AM
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1. Check This Out! Campus Gun Ban Lifted
Edited on Sat Oct-01-11 10:35 AM by fredamae
Medical Cannabis Participants are being Discriminated against---on many different levels, but Starkly so here. This matter has gone through legal process, the cops lost (didn't get their way) so they run to "Daddy DOJ" crying for help and he "spoils" them by letting them have their way-Again in violation of second amend rights against a minority group, without Credible Evidence this action is warranted to benefit Public Safety. My question is: WHO'S Next?a
http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2011/09/29/campus-gun-ban-lifted

Guns OK in Bars
Oh, I misunderstood-Alcohol and Booze go well together-Shoot,(no pun) what was I thinking!
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/23/two-states-legalize-guns-in-bars/

There is absolutely NO Common Sense here. Who benefits?
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 02:04 PM
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3. Actually, "Alcohol and Booze" do go well together, though redundantly.nt
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fredamae Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 05:34 PM
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5. Actually, you are Quite correct:)
And perhaps I need take one or the other up for clarity of thought...
Of course, I meant "Guns & Booze":)
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 04:18 PM
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11. Well, happy hour is upon us in Texas. And it's 4:20! nt
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 11:08 PM
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7. all the guns in bars is
allowing you to go in a place like Applebees that serves alcohol in many states. Drinking while armed is still a felony in those states. Want to see drunks with guns? Go to a cop bar in New York.

Problem with the first one, pot is still illegal on the federal level.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 10:40 AM
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2. I'd rather see a ban on guns for drunken fools - the U.S. is crawling with armed drunks.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 02:06 PM
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4. I think being armed and drunk is already against the law...
If you have any info stating otherwise, please post.

BTW, do you have any "pro facts" indicating how many armed drunks are "crawling" around? Thanks in advance.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-11 10:54 PM
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6. In most states, it is. A few it's not.
I think either Washington or Oregon and one or two others have no laws on carrying while intoxicated. Most states, however, either ban drinking while carrying at all, or more commonly use the same definition of intoxication that's used for driving a car.
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 12:26 AM
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10. It's not a criminal offense as such in Washington state
But carrying in public while being legally "under the influence" is grounds to revoke your Concealed Pistol License and confiscate the firearm(s) involved, so it's certainly not legal.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 04:20 PM
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12. I stand corrected. Those 2 red hell-holes of reactionary politics, again.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 09:28 PM
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15. the U.S. is crawling with armed drunks. ---
I take it you stumble over quite a few on your way to the store :shrug:
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burf Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 08:33 PM
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8. Senator Jon Tester has sent a letter to the DOJ
on the latest stupid policy by AG Holder.

U.S. SENATE --(Ammoland.com)- Saying it violates gun rights, invades privacy and creates needless red tape, U.S. Senator Jon Tester is slamming a new Justice Department policy that prohibits licensed medical marijuana card-holders from purchasing firearms and ammunition and requires gun dealers to obtain private medical information from customers before selling firearms or ammunition.

Tester is telling Attorney General Eric Holder and the head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to back off the new policy

Full article at: http://www.ammoland.com/2011/10/03/senator-tester-slams-new-justice-department-gun-policy/


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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 08:47 PM
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9. bravo, Tester
:applause:
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 04:26 PM
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14. Agreed! Tester knows how to survice, too. Demos take note. nt
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 04:25 PM
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13. I can't believe this crap fizzed to the surface...
"...and requires gun dealers to obtain private medical information from customers before selling firearms or ammunition."

It's bad enough that marijuana is singled out categorically in Form 4473, but to now add this last piece of crap is thundering bureaucracy at its worst.

Gun-control advocates, who preach how 2A defenders are paranoid about gun restrictions, take note.
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