Christian "Zionist" leader Hagee depicts Jews as Christ killers

[Ian David]

From: Gershon S Caudill <[e-mail]>
Date: Sep 27, 2006
Christian Zionist leader Hagee depicts Jews as Christ killers
by JewsOnFirst, September 26, 2006

John Hagee, the megachurch pastor who is the current face of Christian
Zionism in the United States, depicted Jews as Christ killers in a recent
interview. Hagee also stated that Muslims have a "mandate" to kill
Christians and Jews and that God caused Hurricane Katrina to destroy New
Orleans to prevent a scheduled gay parade.

Hagee made the controversial remarks about Jews, Muslims and gays during a
September 18th interivew on the National Public Radio program Fresh Air.
Jews, he said, will weep when they "see" Jesus Christ whose side they have
"pierced."

Hagee is pastor of the Cornerstone Church in Antonio and head of Christians
United for Israel (CUFI), a new organization led by the religous right's
biggest names. CUFI's purpose is to lobby Congress to support Israel. The
Christian Zionist movement's motives are based on end-times "Armageddon"
scenarios of wars involving Russia, Iran and Arab countries. Hagee has been
warning that Iran is planning a nuclear attack on Israel. (See our earlier
report) He "explains" all this with biblical verses.

Opposition to ceding land for peace
Christian Zionists put great emphasis on returning all the world's Jews to
Israel as part of their end times scenarios. They also oppose Israel ceding
any land as part of a peace agreement. Hagee and other Christian Zionists
make a great show of raising money for Israel (often to fund settling
immigrants or expansionist Jewish settlers).

Christian Zionists justify all this with a mumbo-jumbo of biblical
interpretation. For example, Hagee said during the Fresh Air interview:
"Joel 3:2 says do not do it. Those who divide up the land of Israel will
come under the judgment of God. Therefore, don't do it. It's just that
simple."

Hagee made the Christ-killer statement when Fresh Air host Terry Gross asked
him about about the "rapture" that he says will occur when Jesus Christ
returns in the end-times scenario. At first, Hagee insisted that Jews could
be "raptured" into the air along with Christians.

"Well, there are Jewish people who believe in Jesus Christ, and there are
Arabs who believe in Jesus Christ, so you don't have to be a gentile to be a
believer," he told Gross.

But, she pressed, "you do have to believe in Jesus Christ." Hagee agreed to
that, and Gross pressed on, asking what about "Israeli Jews who don't
believe in Jesus Christ when the Rapture comes?"

Jews will "see"
Hagee responded that those Jews would not be raptured, but would have to
live through the "Tribulation."

Where that leaves them is that during the tribulation, the book of
Revelation says in the 14th chapter that God is going to send angels who
will preach the everlasting gospel across the face of the earth so that
everyone will have the opportunity of knowing who Jesus Christ is. Now, when
it comes to the Jesus people, Zechariah very clearly says that they are not
going to believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah until they see him.
Zechariah says in the 14th chapter `and when they, the Jewish people, see
him whom they have pierced'--and the word pierced there actually refers to
his rib and side--`when they see him whom they have pierced, they will weep
as one weeps for his only son for a period of one week. They're simply not
going to believe he is the Messiah until they actually see him, and that's
at the Second Coming. Then, at that point in time, there is the judgment of
the nations in which all nations are judged for the way in which they have
treated the nation of Israel and the Jewish people, and the Jewish people
are front and center in the kingdom of God that will be an eternal kingdom.
Hagee and his fellow Christian Zionists have gone to great lengths to
reassure Jewish organizations that they will not take advantage of their
activities in support of Israel to try to convert Jews.


In arguing against an Israeli compromise for peace, Hagee stated: "those who
live by the Quran have a scriptural mandate to kill Christians and Jews."
Gross questioned him twice on the statement.

GROSS: Do you believe that?
Pastor HAGEE: Well, the Quran teaches that. Yes, it teaches that very
clearly.

GROSS: So, for you, there's absolutely no way of tolerating Islam at all.
I'm not talking about extreme Islam. I'm just talking about the Muslim
religion.

Pastor HAGEE: No, there are Islamics who want peace, but they don't have
center stage right now. And whenever Islam, radical Islam, does things that
make the headlines, like getting on a bus with a bomb strapped around them
and killing people, the moderates do not speak up because they're afraid
that they will be killed by the radicals. So it gives the appearance that
there are no--there is--there are no moderate Islamic people...

Hurricane Katrina
At the end of the interview, Gross asked Hagee about a sermon in which he'd
said Hurricane Katrina was a punishment from God. He explained:

"I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God,
and they are--were recipients of the judgment of God for that. The newspaper
carried the story in our local area that was not carried nationally that
there was to be a homosexual parade on the Monday that the Katrina came, and
the promise of that parade was that it was going to reach a level of
sexuality never demonstrated before in any of the other Gay Pride parades.
So I believe that the judgment of God is a very real thing."

Numerous Jewish organizations work with Hagee and CUFI because they value
the Christian Zionists' support for Israel. Some rabbis, however, view
Hagee's domestic agenda as detrimental to Jewish life in the United States.
Rabbi Barry Block of Temple Beth El in San Antonio, writing for the Jewish
Telegraph Agency said: advocacy for Israel will harm everything we
hold dear, as Israel and the Jewish people are tarnished by association."

Escritos en livros de vidas (May you be written in the Book of Life)
Rabbi Gershon Steinberg-Caudill
http://home.earthlink.net/~ecorebbe/

(Reprinted with permission of the author)



See also:
What is Christian Zionism?
by Rabbi Haim Dov Beliak, JewsOnFirst, July 31, 2006

Christian Zionism is a movement within Protestant fundamentalism that understands the modern state of Israel as the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy and thus deserving of political, financial, and religious support. Christian Zionists believe that when all Jews are gathered in Israel, Jesus will reappear; there are varying "end times" scenarios for what follows. (For more, please see the Institute for the Study of Christian Zionism.)

Christian Zionism is an extreme modern apocalyptic movement that shares with Nazi philosophy the paranoid idea that Jews and Judaism are the central actors in the world. Both movements seek the eventual dismantling of the Jewish people and Jewish faith - Nazism by death and Christian Zionism by conversion to Christianity of a remnant of Jews, who will finally learn their "lesson" from the death of most of the Jewish people at Armageddon (Ir Megiddo); then the "left-behind" remnant is expected to commit apostasy by converting to Jesus worship.

All the Christian Zionists' expressions of love and friendship (for example, Pat Robertson saying "We love the Jewish people") -- all their farm aid (including red heifers to use in revived temple sacrifices) and help for Russian Jews to immigrate to Israel -- are preparations for genocide by remote control.

Rabbi Barry Block of Temple Beth El, located in Christians United for Israel leader John Hagee's home town of San Antonio, writes for the Jewish Telegraphic Agency that " and his group's partners hew to a theology that mainstream Americans of every faith reject and often abhor. Even as they speak to large congregations, Hagee and his ilk are repudiated by tens of millions of Christians, including evangelicals, and for good reason. The group's advocacy for Israel will harm everything we hold dear, as Israel and the Jewish people are tarnished by association."

Christian Zionism entirely ignores Jewish/Zionist aspirations for normalcy. Zionism was to be a new start for Judaism and the Jewish people living enlightened lives in peace. Instead Christian Zionism encourages the Israeli government and the US Jewish organizational leadership on a path toward enmity with the Palestinians and disrespect for Islam. In his book End of Days: Fundamentalism and the Struggle for the Temple Mount, Gershom Gorenberg pointed to the triad of Christian, Muslim, and Jewish fundamentalisms goading and threatening each other.

Many Jews are puzzled by Hagee's Christian Zionism. Many do not understand how it differs from altruistic support of Israel. Nonetheless, they welcome it and its blandishments of friendship in the face of so much opposition to Israel.

Most of what has been written about Christian Zionism by Jews (for example, Yechiel Eckstein's The Journey Home, and CUFI Executive Director David Brog's Standing with Israel: Why Christians support the Jewish state,) is also not helpful because it projects a romantic version of Zionism that assumes maximum claims for land and barely nods to pragmatic political considerations. Virtually the entire pantheon of Zionist thinkers from Theodore Herzl to David Grossman and Amos Elon saw peace with Arab neighbors as the culmination of the Zionist dream, not as an impossibility.

That peace demanded compromise in resolving disputes, not preparation for endless wars and "end-times" scenarios.

More:
http://www.jewsonfirst.org/06b/cufi.html

[Lilith Velkor]

1. "preparations for genocide by remote control"

Yyyup.

And half the time I try to warn people about these fuckers, they chuckle it off like it's nothing, then start blathering about how "the anti-Semitic Left" is plotting a second Holocaust. :eyes:

But yeah, the psycho-Christians are probably going to have several collective tantrums until they get over the fact that 2000 came and went and Jesus didn't come back. I just hope they don't kill us all in the process.

Random Chance, help us...

[Tom Joad]

2. He also supports the "monstrous" bombing of Lebanon, so the

other views are more or less consistent with that kind of extremism.
hagee and AIPAC should get along just fine.

"What we did was insane and monstrous, we covered entire towns in cluster bombs," the head of an IDF rocket unit in Lebanon said regarding the use of cluster bombs and phosphorous shells during the war.

Quoting his battalion commander, the rocket unit head stated that the IDF fired around 1,800 cluster bombs, containing over 1.2 million cluster bomblets.

[Tom Joad]

3. It's amazing, Hagee seems to be on the road to getting an award from

the ADL. Sure he has nutty views about Jews that most would consider anti-semitic. but who cares in the ADL... he supports Israels nutty policies too.

the ADL also gave an award to a man who prayed at the graves of SS officers in Bitburg, and said they were merely "victims". But who cares in the ADL. Reagan supported Israel's policies, so a twisted view of history they can overlook.

Yeah, i know Foxman has said some not so kind things about the Christian right, so it is possible they won't give him an award anytime soon. but don't expect hagee to be rejected either. and much of the pro-Israeli crowd will embrace this nut.

[Behind the Aegis]

5. What does this rant have to do with anything?!

I didn't see anything in the article about the ADL. Why the asinine rant?

[Ian David]

6. Who ever you're replying to is on my ignore list. Undoubtedly a good idea.

[Lithos]

4. No surprises

With "friends" like that, who needs enemies.

Christian Zionists of that ilk are truly neither.

L-