Iranian nuclear scientist ‘assassinated by Mossad’

[sanskritwarrior]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2583167,00.html

[sanskritwarrior]

1. Kind of a big deal if true

2 more reccomends please......

[Behind the Aegis]

2. and what a BIG "if" it is!

He worked at a plant that produces uranium hexafluoride gas and died of “gas poisoning”. Where was his death mentioned? "...his death was said to have been announced at a conference on nuclear safety." Sounds like it was a workplace accident!

On edit: Five votes for greatest page in under 10 minutes of the article's posting, which doesn't even clip the story, just the title. I am so surprised. :sarcasm:

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[Behind the Aegis]

6. It is all speculation.

'An intelligence source suggested that Ardeshire Hassanpour, 44, a nuclear physicist, had been assassinated by Mossad, the Israeli security service.""

I don't doubt that he is dead. However, there is nothing been released about his death, where he died, or how, other than "gas poisoning." Yet, now it is already being blamed on Mossad (i.e. Israel). Sounds like the Iranian version of the American helicopters being shot down by Iranians.

Also very possible, he was 'offed' by his own people, I am seeing that on the net too.

[originalpckelly]

7. What the hell? There are two countries which have a primary interest in stopping...

Iran's nuclear program, the US and Israel. Other countries in the region may have an interest in stopping it, but none have threatened to act in the same way the US and Israel have.

Why would Iran take out one of its own scientists? That doesn't make sense, if anything they would try to protect his life.

Not every news story in the world about Israel has to do with anti-Semitism, and it's wrong for people to insinuate that at every criticism of Israel or its policies. Sometimes stories and opinions are simply based on the bad behavior of a country, not what religion or ethnicity constitutes its population.

[originalpckelly]

9. Here is some info on Farda:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Farda

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[Zhade]

36. Why would the U.S.-funded Radio Farda paint Mossad as the culprit?

Either it's true, which makes it odd that this administration would rat out Mossad (as both share similar worldviews), or it's false, which means they're lying and pinning it on Mossad.

Help me out here - neither of these possibilities makes sense to me.

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[Ian David]

40. The Mossad assassinated Dale Earnhardt!

Only they could be clever enough to use a race car accident to kill a race car driver.

Nobody would EVER suspect.

Sneaky, man. Very sneaky.

[sanskritwarrior]

8. Dude, I'm about as

Pro-Israel as one can be, however they would be stupid to not try this if they truly believed their safety was at risk.........I'm not posting this to bash the israelis, I'm posting it because it was interesting........

[Behind the Aegis]

11. I didn't say you were anti-Israeli.

The article is crap! It is based on specualtion and innuendo, nothing more. Furthermore, the title, which was posted according to LBN rules, is bullshit.

On edit: left out "was"

[sanskritwarrior]

12. I posted the title of the article.......

What part is BS??

Furthermore I want Israel to do this, if my choices are WW III in the Middle East or a low grade assassination war that spares us massive war, then I don't see a problem with this.. WW III or assasinations by each country, which would you choose?

[Behind the Aegis]

14. I know you did.

Which is why I said, "Furthermore, the title, which (was) posted according to LBN rules, is bullshit." The article does not say that this man was assassinated by Mossad, it says: "An intelligence source suggested that Ardeshire Hassanpour, 44, a nuclear physicist, had been assassinated by Mossad, the Israeli security service." however, the article title reads: ""Iranian nuclear scientist ‘assassinated by Mossad’" See the difference?

I cannot agree with your sentiment that Israel should do things like this. I see no reason to assassinate scientists and the like for things they are working on in respects to this issue. To me, that equates to "pre-emptive" strikes.

[Chulanowa]

27. And Israel is of course a non-believer in "pre-emptive" strikes?

Not saying Mossad did it, I will agree that it seems like a knee-jerk thing. But when you come in and give some convoluted hypothesis on why Iranians would murder one of their top nuclear scientists, for the sole purpose on your part of saying Mossad is innocent.. .and then backing it up with silly claims that Israel "doesn't do that" (they most assuredly do, I'm afraid), it looks a little funny.

[Behind the Aegis]

28. Re-read what I wrote.

The only "silly claim" here is yours! I never said Israel doesn't do pre-emptive strikes. I also didn't give a "convoluted hypothesis," I responded to a question. The only "knee-jerking" I see here are from those who so quickly jump on the anti-Israeli wagon, even when there is little or, in this case, NO proof.

[Chulanowa]

42. Really?

"I cannot agree with your sentiment that Israel should do things like this. I see no reason to assassinate scientists and the like for things they are working on in respects to this issue. To me, that equates to "pre-emptive" strikes."

You can't agree with hte fellow's statement because assassination, to you, would equate a pre-emptive strike. This would of course imply, quite strongly, that you don't believe Israel ever does such a thing.

You also said it's "very likely" he was offed by his own people. Can't say I saw a lot of evidence coming out of your corner, Aegis.

Is it possible? Could be.
Is it possible that Mossad did it? could be, too.
Is it posible he just got fried on accident? That's my personal theory.

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[Zhade]

38. Thank you for your non-assassination stance. I mean it.

I wish the rightwing Israeli government (and our own) shared that view.

[Strelnikov_]

15. And since when are those the only two choices? n/t

[Ian David]

41. Right. n/t

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[saltpoint]

3. The Bush administration is being lambasted for refusing to talk with

Iran and Syria.

Even some Republicans feel that negotiation is one of the mandatory variables in any formula for Middle East stability.

Not that Condoleezza Rice is anywhere near sentient enough to conduct such talks. She could wow a delegation with a Brahms Intermezzo but she's strictly a Cold War-era oil puppet. Negroponte's upcoming role at State inspires more unease and less confidence regarding the possibility and efficacy of negotiations.

I'm just not sure you can prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear nation without jacking up the risk of an uncontrollable regional conflagration. And it's plenty tense as it is already. A military strike by the United States and/or Israel is not likely to assuage regional fears and misgivings. It may very well be kerosene on the fire.

The Bush adminsitration's war policy in the Middle East does not speak for me. In fact I resent that Bush is acting "in our behalf," pretending that his warmongering will make us "safer" in Des Moines and Carson City and Biloxi. I doubt if any of us ever believed that lie.

If the TIMES report is accurate, I also doubt that Mossad speaks for most Israelis. What efforts have the governments of the United States and Israel really made to negotiate a peace? And do their best strategists really believe that assassinating one Iranian nuclear scientist would deter Iran from becoming a nuclear power?

[scarletwoman]

4. Oh cripes. This is all just going to get worse and worse. How did the fate of the planet get put

into the hands of so many stupid and evil people?

:banghead:

sw

[Usrename]

16. My guess is they are supported by many stupid and evil people.

And the planet suffers because of it.

:banghead:

[Poll_Blind]

17. You got that right!

PB

[Malikshah]

18. There will be more to this story, but I fear it may come out in the history books

if there are any left to write them.

Should the initial reports of this story bear out, it would not be unprecedented. Sometimes countries' clandestine policies get too clever...

Lavon Affair:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair


Egypt's Missile Chronology--excerpt: http://www.nti.org/e_research/profiles/Egypt/Missile/2362.html
1960-1961
Approximately 1,000 people work at Factory 333, and of them, roughly 250 are German scientists and technicians.
—Joseph S. Bermudez, Jr., "Ballistic missile development in Egypt," Jane's Intelligence Review, October 1992, pp. 452-458.

1960s
A missile project involving West German aerospace company Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm (MBB) is stopped by technical difficulty and Israeli letter bombs. Israeli superspy Rafi Eitan plays a role in eliminating German scientists making surface-to-surface missiles for Egypt.
—"Overhead," MidEast Market, 13 November 1989; "Israel's former master spy is taking his lumps quietly," 14 June 1987; in Lexis-Nexis, <http://www.lexis-nexis.com>.

[oblivious]

19. Here's the Stratfor article link. Quite interesting.

http://www.stratfor.com/products/premium/read_article.php?id=283793&selected=Analyses

... The death of a high-level Iranian nuclear scientist, Ardeshir Hassanpour, was announced by Radio Farda and Iranian state television Jan. 25 -- a week after his death occurred. The Radio Farda report implicitly related the cause for Hassanpour's death to exposure to radioactive rays, though the details were murky. Stratfor sources close to Israeli intelligence have revealed, however, that Hassanpour was in fact a Mossad target.

Hassanpour is believed to have been one of Iran's most prized nuclear scientists. Some reports claim he was named the best scientist in the military field in Iran in 2003, that he directed and founded the center for nuclear electromagnetic studies since 2005 and that he co-founded the Nuclear Technology Center in Isfahan, where Iran's uranium-conversion facilities are located.

Decapitating a hostile nuclear program by taking out key human assets is a tactic that has proven its effectiveness over the years, particularly in the case of Iraq. In the months leading up to the 1981 Israeli airstrike on Iraq's Osirak reactor -- which was believed to be on the verge of producing plutonium for a weapons program -- at least three Iraqi nuclear scientists died under mysterious circumstances.

Yahya al-Meshad, a key figure in Iraq's nuclear program, traveled to Paris in 1980 to test fuel for the reactor; he was soon stabbed to death and was discovered by a hotel maid in his room the next morning. A prostitute who went by the name Marie Express reportedly saw the scientist the night before he died. She was then killed in a hit-and-run accident by an unknown driver who got away. After al-Meshad's death, two more Iraqi scientists were killed separately -- both by poisoning -- and a number of workers at Osirak began receiving threatening letters from a shadowy organization called the Committee to Safeguard the Islamic Revolution -- likely a Mossad front to enhance the workers' paranoia and hinder Saddam Hussein's nuclear ambitions.

Mossad's latest covert assassination campaign falls in line with Israel's psychological warfare strategy to undermine Iran's confidence in pursuing its nuclear agenda. The longer the Iranians are forced to second-guess Israel's intent to launch a pre-emptive strike, the more pliable Iran becomes in negotiating with the United States toward a political agreement on Iraq. ...

[Poll_Blind]

21. I just saw a video about the Mossad's killing of al-Meshad (LINK)

  Interviews with the pilots themselves and journalists and others who have written about or participated in "Operation Opera", Israel's attack on Iraq's nuclear power plant.

Raid on the Reactor (from the Military Channel) al-Meshad's killing starts about 12, 12 1/2 minutes in. Worth watching the whole thing if you've got the time.

PB

[struggle4progress]

23. Uh, that's not really an article: it's Strafor self-advertising. The company calls itself ...

"a leading security consulting intelligence agency" -- which means they need people to believe they can produce intelligence

[peacetalksforall]

20. An important scientist is dead. A newspaper is reporting that

the Mossad is being mentioned. Frustrating as it is - the first accounts are measley in facts. Let's all come back and argue when there is more - which there usually is.

Why is it, however, that Iran doesn't threaten war or attack and Israel and the U.S do?

Read the John Pilger essay-article.

I and the world are uptight about invading Iran and for the killing fields that will pop up all over the ME, Europe, and the U.S.

But I guess Israel and the U.S. have a bloodshed free plan for Israel and the U.S. (yes, sarcasm of the most bitter kind).

If we are upset with our government we have to be upset at Israel, because there is no differences in the leaders of Israel and the disgusting leaders in this country.

What is being planned is the worst occurence of humanity on this planet because both countries know better.

Meanwhile, people all over the planet are quiet about it. Hoping it will go away. Yeah, go watch the Super Bowl and burp while most the women go shopping. Nothing to worry about here.

And we're all supposed to be calm, watch the Super Bowl, and not even think about our kids on those ships and the tired ones in Iraq who are soon going to be saying Iran, instead. If we are not saved first.

Damn Israel and the U.S. There is no justification that fits.

[fujiyama]

22. Iran hasn't threatened Israel?

Their leader wants to wipe them off the earth.

But there is obviously saber rattling on both sides and the US and Israeli threats have made the situation much worse...and considering these two countries actually have the means to act militarily (well, at least in terms of military power), and Israel has used clandestine operations to assassinate nuclear scientists before, I understand the speculation. It certainly is very possible that Israel was behind this...

But so far, the explanation given by the state news agency is not very clear. Was it radiation poisoning he died of?

Regardless of the assassinations, Iran will likely keep pushing ahead. Assassinating a few key scientific minds will slow them down, but I doubt it will derail the program completely.

Of course all the news could be utter bullshit, and the reality could likely be that Iran is over a decade away from any nuclear weapons and the US and Israel have exaggerated the threat.

[smoogatz]

24. This is actually quite clever of the Israelis, if they are in fact behind it.

Since a direct assault on Iran's nuclear facilities would probably be counterproductive, going after the individual scientists is about the only strategy left. Most likely it can't be proved who killed the guy, or even that he was murdered. It's possible, of course, that his death was accidental--but the suspicion that the Mossad was involved will complicate the lives of everyone working on Iran's nuclear program--they'll need extra security, round-the-clock guards, protection for their families, etc., etc. All very distracting. Even if the Mossad didn't kill him, it would be wise to leak the suggestion that they did to the press. Kind of makes you wish the U.S. was capable of carrying out this type of clean, efficient covert op on a high profile target--if we were, bin Laden would've been toast long before 9/11.

[struggle4progress]

25. *snort* The single media report to date can't even spell the guy's name

:eyes:

[struggle4progress]

26. Ha! The article is by Sarah Baxter! I should have known!

:rofl:

Sarah Baxter wrote, for example, "I'm a Democrat for Bush" (The Sunday Times 17 October 2004)

[oblivious]

32. Here it is reported in other rightwing source. What's up with that?

Top Iranian nuke scientist 'assassinated by Mossad'

The mysterious death last month of a top Iranian nuclear physicist involved with the Islamic Republic's current effort to enrich uranium was the work of Mossad, the Israeli security service, a leading U.S. intelligence company claims.

The death of Ardeshir Hassanpour, 44, a nuclear scientist, was not announced until Jan. 21, six days after his death, according to Radio Farda. The official cause of death was reported as "gas poisoning," but Iranian authorities did not disclose how or where Hassanpour was poisoned. The announcement, reports said, came at a conference on nuclear safety.
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54089

[struggle4progress]

33. So far: it's been reported by a propaganda radio station aimed at Iran,

by a commercial "intelligence" company, by Sarah Baxter, and by WingNutDaily: what a pedigree!

[Scurrilous]

51. U.S. website: Mossad killed Iranian nuclear physicist

<snip>

"A senior nuclear physicist involved in Iran's nuclear program who died under mysterious circumstances two weeks ago was killed by the Mossad, according to a report released in a U.S. website this weekend.

The website - Stratfor.com - features intelligence and security analysis by former U.S. intelligence agents.

Professor Ardashir Hosseinpour, a world authority on electromagnetism, was until recently working on uranium enrichment at the facility in Isfahan, one of the central processing sites in Iran's nuclear program.

The physicist died January 18, but news of his death only emerged six days later in two Iranian media outlets.

A report released this weekend in Stratfor.com stated that the Mossad was behind Hosseinpour's death."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/821634.html


Report: Mossad kills Iranian scientist

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1170359776805&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


Report: Mossad assassinated Iranian nuclear scientist

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3360556,00.html

[Englander]

47. She used to be the political editor for the "New Statesman".

Way back in the Nineties. She is now a proud imperialist, & happily chats with Bolton, for eg;

'Ousted Bolton puts world to rights

Sarah Baxter, Washington
AS America’s ambassador to the United Nations, John Bolton was no tame diplomat. Armed with his feared red pen, ready to strike out waffling resolutions, he was an able and aggressive defender of US interests, but he often had to uphold policies with which he was not in tune.

“To the great chagrin of many people, I followed my instructions at the UN,” he said in his first newspaper interview since relinquishing his post. He is a free man now and eager to have his say.

Bolton engaged in tortuous negotiations over sanctions for Iran and North Korea’s nuclear programmes with little confidence they would work.

“I wouldn’t have engaged in negotiations with Iran in the first place,” he said, evidently disdainful of Britain, France and Germany’s years of reaching out to Iran. “The policy has failed. Sanctions won’t stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2546055_1,00.html

[Rosa Luxemburg]

29. one has to be siuspicious when it says intelligence sources

why would the Times publish this? Iran is at least 10 years off making a nuke. More likely Cheney's men than Israel.

[Freddie Stubbs]

30. For all anyone knows he could have been killed by the Kagaku Ninja Tai Gatchaman

This article seems to have a lot a speculation but not a lot of evidence.

[EVDebs]

31. Hmmm. If the Saudis off a scientist and get Israel to have the blame

that's a "good thing" isn't it in the BFEE playbook ?

[razors edge]

37. That makes sense.

This whole stories evolution says black ops. Take credit in the public forum and piss off the Iranians to see what their response is.

No loose situation for the Usreal, dead scientist, pissed Iranians left looking for a measured response to the propaganda, and no real interest at home for the MSM.

The Iranians look stoopid if they poisoned their own top dog, we look competent for a change if they blame us.

[Marie26]

34. The State Dept. says

"A PRIZE-WINNING Iranian nuclear scientist has died in mysterious circumstances, according to Radio Farda, which is funded by the US State Department and broadcasts to Iran.

An intelligence source suggested that Ardeshire Hassanpour, 44, a nuclear physicist, had been assassinated by Mossad, the Israeli security service."

It'd be better if the OP included the first two paragraphs. It looks like this is info from a vague "intelligence sourse" that the State Dept. is broadcasting directly into Iran. Meaning - the US want Iranians to think that Mossad killed the nuclear scientist. And I don't understand why the US is so eager to broadcast that. True or not, I don't know. But it does seem like this story has been planted to inspire some sort of reaction from Iran.

[Poll_Blind]

35. The Eisenhower Strike Group is waiting impatiently, burning up petrol.

  Took 'em for a run to blow up some things in Ethopia to give 'em a little practice.

PB

[Marie26]

55. Let's assume this is propaganda

It certainly seems like it. I still don't understand what the point of this story would be? If they wanted to aim this at Americans, this would be leaked to the NY Times, etc. Instead, it's being broadcast to the Iranians themselves. Why? Why do we want them to think Mossad was behind this man's death? Maybe we're trying to make Iran think that an Israeli strike is imminent? Or maybe we're trying to anger Iran so that they stop complying w/the IAEA - and maybe make some new inflammatory anti-Israel statements? It feels like we're missing something here.

[Trajan]

39. Not a big fan of assassination ....

Not a big fan of nuclear weapons designers either ...

Not a big fan of Israeli extremists ...

Not a big fan of Islamic extremists either ...

Cant we all just get along ?

[piesRsquare]

43. Top Iranian nuke scientist 'assassinated by Mossad'

Good.

One hit, clean as a bean. Yashir koach!

[razors edge]

63. Will you feel the same way

if the report in the OP is later found to be supported and the Iranians decide to return the favor and assassinate an Israeli nuke scientist, or will that be considered terroristic? Just curious.

[breakaleg]

44. What does this have to do with the Palestinians?

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[Lithos]

68. It has to do with Israel

And given the strong inter-relationship between Middle Eastern politics, especially involving Israel and Iran (ex: Iran's direct support of Hezbollah in Lebanon, Ahmadinejad's anti-Semitic statements, the recent "cartoon" exhibit which involved comparing the Separation Wall to a Holocaust concentration camp, the claims by Fatah of Iran supplying experts to Hamas); the fact that this article passed the 12 hour news window for LBN, it was most definitely an appropriate decision for it to be moved to this forum.

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[Eugene]

45. A plausible story but it's provenance is rather dodgy.

The VOA reports the death of an Iranian scientist (fact) and implies that the delay
in reporting his death is suspicious (innuendo).

Now Rheva Bhalla of CIA-entangled Stratfor claims "strong intelligence" that he was
assassinated by the Mossad. He does not state this for a fact.

The Mossad assassinated Gerald Bull, the creator of Iraq's supergun, in 1990. It is
plausible that the Mossad killed the Iranian scientist, but this story is thin on
details and lacking in independent confirmation.

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[peacetalksforall]

52. Agree. It is difficult not going off in a half dozen directions - might

as well call it the Israel - Syria Jordan Iran Egypt Palestine forum and go off in a dozen directions. The war that Israel and the U.S. is planning right now is against Iran. And they may add Syria, even though it is their partner in torture.

[oberliner]

53. None of the Iranian nuclear scientists have been assassinated by Moussad (Fars News Agency)

TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- None of the Iranian nuclear scientists have been assassinated by Moussad because the Israeli intelligence agency is basically incapable of running operations inside Iran, an informed source said here in Tehran on Sunday.

Following a report released by the weekly 'Sunday Times' about assassination of an Iranian nuclear scientist called Ardeshir Hossein-pour by Israel's Moussad, an informed source told FNA that Hossein-pour, a Shiraz University professor, was in no way connected to Iran's Uranium Conversion Facility (UCF) in Isfahan and that he had been suffocated by fumes from a faulty gas fire in sleep.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8511150571

[oblivious]

57. It looks like the right-wing and Israeli sources are writing what their readers want to hear.

[oberliner]

66. Source is 100 percent USA

Every paper that is reporting on this is using that same Stratfor source, which is a private intelligence company based in Texas.

[oblivious]

67. I meant papers, not sources. I wrote that in a hurry.

Thanks.

[newyorican]

54. Most interesting...

observing who swallows initial reports as gospel, depending on which party/country is cast in a negative/controversial light.

There is another thread in this dungeon about Iranians training Hamas in Gaza, reported by Fatah sources. Those that would never believe anything a Fatah source had to say all of a sudden are accepting that initial report as the irrefutable truth.

If a reasonable person takes a step back, it's all quite amusing.

[oberliner]

56. What thread are you referencing?

The only one I could find in a search about Hamas and Iran that might fit your description is this one:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=124&topic_id=165400

In that thread I don't see a lot of people accepting that report as the irrefutable truth.

Is there a different thread that you are talking about?

I do agree with your broader point, however, that people here are eager to believe information that support their particular point of view on the conflict and eager to dismiss information that does not.

[Englander]

58. The OP certainly does.

personally its hardly a surprise....one gets help in ones "war" where ever you can.

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[Violet_Crumble]

70. tsk tsk indeed....

showing partial information to "prove" ones point doesnt show much for the poster.


The second paragraph posted was from the actual article. You, on the other hand, swallowed the story hook, line and sinker with these comments:

'personally its hardly a surprise....one gets help in ones "war" where ever you can.

hence we see left anti war/occupation protesters alongside with religious facists/fanatics....we saw israel working with S.Africa....etc

but i do remember all the outrage at israels relationship with S.Africa...so now we have part of the palestenians (the elected govt) possibly working with a regime that not only practices gender apartheid, but hangs homosexuals and girls with 'big mouths"

so i'm just curious if this is to be condemed here by those who condem others for not living up the "expected moral value system" (that israel is always being accused of....)



or is not to be condemed because one "expects better of israel"....in other words...a double standard, one expects less of the palestinians because they________

dont understand?
are a "lesser culture"?
dont understand the western value system that israel is supposed to live by.'

Also, do you agree with Oberliner's comment: 'I do agree with your broader point, however, that people here are eager to believe information that support their particular point of view on the conflict and eager to dismiss information that does not.'?

[Englander]

71. Here's another eg of the same phenomenon.

Chances are that the OP thinks the report is accurate;

Iranians arrested in raid on Gaza's Islamic university
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x165363

[Violet_Crumble]

72. I'm sure there's plenty more...

I was going to delve back into the archives to find some more, but I think the point's been well and truly made. What I found ridiculous about this thread is that some of the reactions to it were completely OTT eg calling the article shit even though Mossad have in the past carried out assassinations and it's not unrealistic to think that they would do so again. The way some people act it's like they think Mossad is some squeaky clean organisation that skips around helping little old ladies across the road and handing out lollies to little kids.

[Englander]

59. Being reasonable means the terrorist win.

[TexasLawyer]

60. Why is this in Israel/Palestine?

It's a news item about something that happened in Iran to an Iranian.

There's an unproven, possible link to Israel, but that's it.

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[Lithos]

69. See

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=124&topic_id=165523&mesg_id=165647

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[eggplant]

64. IBTL!

[Lurking Dem]

73. I find it interesting

that people who decry every story about Iran as MSM war mongering or propaganda are jumping on this bullshit unsourced innuendo like it's gospel.