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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:32 PM
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Rice fails to get Abbas to name date for talks restart (3rd Roundup)
Cairo/Gaza City/Ramallah - US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice met President Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah Tuesday, but failed to get the Palestinian leader to commit to a date for the restart of peace talks with Israel, frozen on Sunday in the wake of the worst violence between the sides in years.

Meanwhile Israeli forces backed by helicopters re-entered the southern part of the Gaza Strip late Tuesday, a military spokesperson confirmed.

The troops attacked a house near Khan Younis belonging to a leading member of the Islamic Jihad organisation. The military said the target, Yussuf Samiri, and at least one other militant were killed in a firefight, while Palestinian medics reported that a 20- month-old baby also died in the attack.

Abbas said earlier said he remained committed to peace talks, which restarted only in December after a seven-year hiatus, but he did not name a date for their resumption.

http://news.monstersandcritics.com/middleeast/news/article_1394000.php/Rice_fails_to_get_Abbas_to_name_date_for_talks_restart__3rd_Roundup_
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:34 PM
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1. Infant killed
KHAN YOUNIS, Gaza Strip – About 25 Israeli armored vehicles rumbled into southern Gaza and clashed with militants after nightfall Tuesday. A 1-month-old baby was killed in the crossfire, a medical official said.

The Israeli tanks fired shells and attack helicopters fired missiles during the clashes, Palestinian witnesses said.

The baby girl was killed by a ricocheting bullet, Palestinian Health Ministry official Moaiya Hassanain said. Eight militants and three civilians were wounded, none of then seriously, he said.

Israeli defense officials said it was a “pinpoint” operation aimed at Gaza militants. It came just a day after Israel ended a destructive and bloody ground operation in northern Gaza against Palestinian rocket squads.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20080304-1235-israel-palestinians.html
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:35 PM
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2. COSATU condemns Israeli massacres
The Congress of South African Trade Unions is outraged and disgusted at the latest massacres by the Israeli Occupation Forces in Gaza, which have claimed an estimated 100 Palestinian lives in the past five days alone, most of them civilian women and children. The Israelis have even targeted ambulances, trapping the injured people inside.

There can be absolutely no justification for such brutality. While United Nations Secretary-General, Ban Ki-Moon has rightly condemned the violence as a “disproportionate and excessive use of force“, that is too mild; COSATU sees the Israeli attacks as nothing less than mass murder, an escalation of the ongoing genocidal campaign to crush and destroy the people of Palestine.

COSATU reaffirms its 2006 National Congress resolution which pledged solidarity and support to the struggle of the Palestinian people for freedom, and demanded that:

* Our government should impose sanctions against Israel until the aggression on Palestine and Lebanon is stopped.
* We should step up the campaign for the release of Palestinian prisoners.
* COSATU members must boycott Israeli goods and demonstrations must be held at the embassies of Israel and the United States in South Africa.
* The government must end with immediate affect the diplomatic ties with Israel including recalling the ambassador.


http://www.labournet.net/world/0803/gaza10.html
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:37 PM
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3. Israel must halt attacks on Gaza and begin talks
We write representing the views of a group of Jews in Scotland campaigning under the banner of Scottish Jews for a Just Peace, and add our voice to the condemnation of Israel's military offensive in the Gaza Strip.

While we condemn the launching of missiles from Gaza into Israel, this in no way justifies the disproportionate and excessive use of force by Israel, with over 120 Palestinians killed in the past week, many of them children.

With the Israeli Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, talking of further fighting and escalation, this can only lead to more Palestinian deaths on a similar or greater scale.
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Israel may blame Hamas for the latest escalation in Gaza, but we firmly believe that the root of the problem lies in the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory. With almost 1.5 million Palestinians confined in the world's largest open prison that is Gaza, and under a constant economic blockade, it is unfortunately not surprising that there is hatred of Israel among the Palestinians.

http://www.theherald.co.uk/features/letters/display.var.2093156.0.Israel_must_halt_attacks_on_Gaza_and_begin_talks.php
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:38 PM
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4. To blame the victims for this killing spree defies both morality and sense
The attempt by western politicians and media to present this week's carnage in the Gaza Strip as a legitimate act of Israeli self-defence - or at best the latest phase of a wearisome conflict between two somehow equivalent sides - has reached Alice-in-Wonderland proportions. Since Israel's deputy defence minister, Matan Vilnai, issued his chilling warning last week that Palestinians faced a "holocaust" if they continued to fire home-made rockets into Israel, the balance sheet of suffering has become ever clearer. More than 120 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza by Israeli forces in the past week, of whom one in five were children and more than half were civilians, according to the Israeli human rights group B'Tselem. During the same period, three Israelis were killed, two of whom were soldiers taking part in the attacks.

So what was the response of the British foreign secretary, David Miliband, to this horrific killing spree? It was to blame the "numerous civilian casualties" on the week's "significant rise" in Palestinian rocket attacks "and the Israeli response", condemn the firing of rockets as "terrorist acts" and defend Israel's right to self-defence "in accordance with international law". But of course it has been nothing of the kind - any more than has been Israel's 40-year occupation of the Palestinian territories, its continued expansion of settlements or its refusal to allow the return of expelled refugees.

Nor is the past week's one-sided burden of casualties and misery anything new, but the gap is certainly getting wider. After the election of Hamas two years ago, Israel - backed by the US and the European Union - imposed a punitive economic blockade, which has hardened over the past months into a full-scale siege of the Gaza Strip, including fuel, electricity and essential supplies. Since January's mass breakout across the Egyptian border signalled that collective punishment wouldn't work, Israel has opted for military escalation. What that means on the ground can be seen from the fact that at the height of the intifada, from 2000 to 2005, four Palestinians were killed for every Israeli; in 2006 it was 30; last year the ratio was 40 to one. In the three months since the US-sponsored Middle East peace conference at Annapolis, 323 Palestinians have been killed compared with seven Israelis, two of whom were civilians.

But the US and Europe's response is to blame the principal victims for a crisis it has underwritten at every stage. In interviews with Palestinian leaders over the past few days, BBC presenters have insisted that Palestinian rockets have been the "starting point" of the violence, as if the occupation itself did not exist. In the West Bank, from which no rockets are currently fired and where the US-backed administration of Mahmoud Abbas maintains a ceasefire, there have been 480 Israeli military attacks over the past three months and 26 Palestinians killed. By contrast, the rockets from Gaza which are supposed to be the justification for the latest Israeli onslaught have killed a total of 14 people over seven years.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/mar/05/israelandthepalestinians.usa?gusrc=rss&feed=news
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:39 PM
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5. Ashkelon, the new target for Hamas missiles
Israeli surfing shop owner Elan Biton was standing in the car park chatting to friends as he waited for his wife and three children after an afternoon at Ashkelon's marina when he heard two distant but unmistakeable booms.

A few seconds later he heard a whoosh followed by a very much louder explosion a mere 10 metres away. It was only as he started to head down to the water's edge, dazed, to look for his family that he noticed the small hole in his lower stomach. It dawned on Mr Biton that he had been hit by shrapnel from another of the Grad rockets which had helped to trigger last weekend's bloody incursion into Gaza.

Lying in his bed in a private room in Ashkelon's modern 500-bed Barzilai hospital yesterday, and attached to an antibiotic drip, Mr Biton, 36, did not mince his words about what needed to be done to stop the rockets.

"I don't think there is a political solution. I can't know that I will leave this hospital and not be hit by another rocket," he said.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/ashkelon-the-new-target-for-hamas-missiles-791350.html
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:41 PM
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6. Kenya: Palestinian Struggle Legitimate
THE ISRAELI AMBASSADOR TO Kenya, Mr Jacob Keidar, tried to justify his country's recent aggression against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, calling it a war against a terrorist organisation, Hamas.

The Saturday bloodbath claimed more than 100 lives, 60 of them Palestinians, many of them innocent civilians, after a combined Israel offensive comprising air attack, artillery tank fire and ground special forces invaded the strip.

This excessive military approach against Palestinians who are suffocating under the yoke of a six-decade occupation was an apparent response to the Qassam rocket attacks against the Israeli town of Sderot.

The ambassador wants us to believe that the root cause of the Gaza problem is, as Israel and the United States like to claim, Hamas.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200803041258.html
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:45 PM
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7. No one could have expected Rice to fail...
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:53 PM
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8. Well, it was a non-traditional failure, so nobody could have anticipated it.
Anticipating things is a tricky business even when you know what you are doing. In Ms Rice case, it's just so much harder than even that.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:10 PM
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9. Thank you for the updates n/t
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:24 PM
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10. “Full of sound and fury; signifying nothing”
I was interested in the bit about Condi in light of the "Gaza Bombshell" story. It's like she wants to completely destroy Abbas, what bits are left, and you have to wonder what he is thinking at this point. He does not look like a happy camper. Annapolis has completely come apart in what must be record time for an iteration of the "peace process". Meanwhile, Condi wants to flog the dead horse back to life, apparently completely focussed on the PR aspects of the situation, getting the photo op of Olmert and Abbas "resuming talks". And Abbas, this time, says "no".
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:56 AM
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12. All Sound and Fury signifying nothing pretty well
sums up the "peace talks" charade doesn't it? Was anyone really surprised when Olmert started making announcements as to what Abbas/Fatah had to do to move the "process" along and then promptly there more announcements about additional WB/Jerusalem settlements. Now how ever Olmert will not even have to go through the motions or mouth the words the talks are off and it was Abbas who said no, do we even have to guess how that will be spun?
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:46 AM
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13. The Abbas has "decided"
to resume "peace talks", Condi gets her photo-op.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:42 AM
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14. Noticed that today.
At least Condi says so. It was "unclear" about whether a date was set, so I was not sure whether it was a new thing or "spin" on the same thing, since Abbas didn't refuse to talk, he refused to set a date. The news I read on that was unclear last time I looked too. But either way ...
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:28 AM
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15. Ah, here it is, but still no date:
Abbas agrees to resume talks despite earlier truce demand

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas agreed Wednesday to resume peace talks with Israel, only hours after he conditioned talks on a cease-fire with Israel in the Gaza Strip.

Abbas announced his change of heart in a statement from his West Bank headquarters. "The peace process is a strategic choice and we have the intention of resuming the peace process."

Abbas suspended talks at the beginning of the week to protest an exceptionally deadly Israeli military assault in the Gaza Strip, where militants affiliated with the ruling Islamic Hamas movement have been pounding southern Israel with rockets. In response, Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum criticized Abbas' stance reversal, saying "Abu Mazen is a weak man, who couldn't protect the Palestinian people."

"America and Israel don't take him into account, but only use him as a tool to pass their plans on the Palestinians," he added.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/961188.html
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:51 AM
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16. Checked NYT not there either n/t
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:01 PM
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17. Pending further events, I think we have empty blather. nt
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:31 PM
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11. rice and abbas are dating?
figures.
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