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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:49 PM
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Hillary Clinton's Little-Noticed Israel Problem
HRC's position on Israel could mean a significant departure from longstanding U.S. policy. How come no one cares?

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"Though Senator Barack Obama has never—neither in his Senate votes nor in his campaign literature—strayed from the conventional position of support for Israel, he has in this primary season been dogged by the issue. The flare-up last week surrounding Obama's allegedly "anti-Jewish" campaign cochairman, sparked by a piece in the conservative American Spectator magazine, was only the latest instance in which his foes have suggested that Obama has an "Israel problem." Yet even as Obama has been subjected to intense scrutiny, Senator Hillary Clinton has received virtually no attention for taking an unconventional position on Israel (albeit in a direction approved by pro-Israel hardliners). Her vow of support for Israel's claim on an "undivided Jerusalem," if enacted, would mark a major—and problematic—break with longstanding U.S. policy.

Under the heading "Standing with Israel against terrorism," Clinton's official policy paper, released last September and currently touted on her campaign website, states, "Hillary Clinton believes that Israel's right to exist in safety as a Jewish state, with defensible borders and an undivided Jerusalem as its capital, secure from violence and terrorism, must never be questioned." With the phrase "an undivided Jerusalem as its capital," Clinton seems to take a hardline position on a deeply contested facet of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and a position like this should have garnered at least passing interest from the mainstream media. So how come nobody's paying attention?

The answer may lie within the long history of empty rhetoric on Jerusalem doled out by presidential candidates. Perhaps the lack of interest can be chalked up to uncertainty in how to interpret Clinton’s position. Or it may be that right-wing pronouncements that give short shrift to the Palestinian side are simply not seen as remarkable. (An exception to the media silence on Clinton’s position was the American Prospect's Gershom Gorenberg, an Israeli).

Clinton is toying with one of the few most important final-status issues that will have to be resolved as part of any two-state solution. Israel captured the eastern half of Jerusalem during the 1967 Arab-Israeli War. While Israel has declared the whole of an expanded Jerusalem its capital, the international community views east Jerusalem as occupied territory and the potential capital of any future Palestinian state. In recognition of the contested status of Jerusalem, the United States and other countries maintain their embassies in Tel Aviv.

"Jerusalem is not only of political, religious, and emotional significance to Palestinians. It's the cultural and economic capital of any future state of Palestine. To carve out east Jerusalem from the rest of Palestine would be to deprive of it the geographic area which traditionally has been the heart of the Palestinian economy," said Philip Wilcox, a retired U.S. Foreign Service officer who served as consul general and chief of mission in Jerusalem and is now president of the Foundation for Middle East Peace, a D.C. nonprofit. "It's an absolute deal –breaker, and there will be no peace if there isn't an agreed political division of Jerusalem."

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:59 PM
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1. add this to the reasons that I will NEVER vote for Sen. Clinton....
Not gonna argue the point. I just won't ever vote for her. Period.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:36 AM
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2. The world won't thank you for landing us all with McInsane.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:40 AM
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3. Sounds like a lot of political rhetoric...
Supporting Israel is one thing; dictating the terms of negotiations is another. Supposing the Israelis decided, as part of a peace deal, to divide Jerusalem (not absolutely beyond the bounds of possibility) - would the American President say they couldn't? I hope and assume that the answer in such a case is No; which means that this *is* a lot of rather empty rhetoric.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 07:13 AM
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4. This is a real change in her previous position. Hmm... I wonder why? nt
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:47 AM
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5. Cha-ching n/t
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:53 AM
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6. What are you talking about?
How is this a change in her previous position?

Here is a CNN article from 1999:

First lady supports Jerusalem as capital of Israel

WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, July 9) -- First lady Hillary Rodham Clinton says she considers Jerusalem to be the "eternal and indivisible capital of Israel" and will be an active advocate -- if elected to New York's Senate seat -- to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem.

In a letter that became public Thursday, Mrs. Clinton wrote: "If I am chosen by New Yorkers to be their senator, or in whatever position I find myself in the years to come, you can be sure that I will be an active, committed advocate for a strong and secure Israel, able to live in peace with its neighbors, with the United States Embassy located in its capital, Jerusalem."

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/07/09/senate.2000/hrc.jerusalem/
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:35 AM
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7. Exactly. Her tougher position just happened to coincide with her senate candidacy.
A year prior she was huggy huggy with Suha arafat.

She knows the reality and supports the evil anyway.

Blech on her.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:43 AM
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8. The appearance with Suha Arafat took place on November 11, 1999
The article I posted is from July 9, 1999.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:11 AM
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9. Oberliner, Hillary went from being an outspoken supporter of an independent Palestine
and then once she announced her candidacy for Senate, she suddenly supports Jerusalem as the sacred capital, and began the whole textbook nonsense.

You see no correlation there?

I must be more cynical than you.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:47 PM
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10. You seemed to be suggesting that she changed her position because of the current election
You indicated that her current position reflected a change from her previous position and then you rhetorically asked why.

It is clear from the article that I posted that her position today and her position 9 years ago are essentially the same.

Also, you suggested that her well-known appearance with Suha Arafat took place a year prior to the article I posted when in fact it took place four months after that.
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:52 PM
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11. My point was that Hillary abandoned a moral position for a politically expedient one. nt
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 01:55 PM by ProgressiveMuslim
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:20 PM
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12. My counterclaim is that she truly holds this position and considers it a moral one
And that she has held it for her entire political life as far as I know.

But I guess neither one of us can be sure of what is truly in her heart!

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